Just curious, where did you hear he was demanding twice what the team is offering?

I said he is asking nearly twice what they are offering. As I understand it the franchise tag is somewhere around 7 million, unless I'm off on that. But he wants to be designated as a WR so that he can make 12 million.

No. The NFLPA had issue with the NFL league office's designation on the tag as a TE. As a little background, when a team franchises a player that is all they do. They inform the NFL that they have placed the tag. The league determines the designation. The NFLPA saw an opportunity to flex a little muscle and jumped on it. They filed a grievance "on behalf of Jimmy Graham" challenging the designation. This in no way came from Graham.

As far as Graham is concerned personally, he wants the same thing as the Saints, to sign a long term deal. That deal will be no where as low as the TE tag, nor as high as the WR tag. But, that deal will be made.

All of this crap is NFLPA driven. Put the blame where it belongs.

The NFLPA acts on a player's request. They are lawyers. Have you ever had a lawyer defend you without being prompted by your request?

Don't tell me that Jimmy can't accept at any time. Of course he wants a long term deal. And he's asking for what the Saints don't seem willing or able to pay.

No. That is where you are terribly mistaken. The NFLPA acts on what they feel is for the good of the membership as a whole. The NFLPA jumped on this opportunity. You are naive if you feel that Graham instigated this affair. It was entirely NFLPA driven. Did they get Graham's buy in? Of course, he really had no choice. Did he want to be recognized as the player who refused to help "the cause"?

And once again, you are making claims that Graham has asked for anything. Search it out. Find anyone other than the NFLPA via the frachise tag amount that have stated anything about any demand.

Any.

Stop posting for two seconds and read my above reply, wise guy. Do you have any information showing exactly who initiated what? Show me. Don't tell me what you think you understand.

I'm going by common sense, and it is my opinion. If you want to believe another thing, you go right ahead. I don't recall asking you any questions. Neither graham nor the union has a case. The numbers show that his performance is well below average when lined up wide against a corner.

Graham knows that. You know that. I know that. His agent knows that. This is all about the NFLPA trying to flex their muscle via the CBA. Hell, Graham calls himself a TE everywhere. That IS what he is.

I will guarantee you that Sexton or Graham have never demanded WR money. This is all NFLPA vs. NFL politics. Don't blame Graham. He is not at fault for anything.

Stop posting for two seconds and read my above reply, wise guy. Do you have any information showing exactly who initiated what? Show me. Don't tell me what you think you understand.

I'm going by common sense, and it is my opinion. If you want to believe another thing, you go right ahead. I don't recall asking you any questions. Neither graham nor the union has a case. The numbers show that his performance is well below average when lined up wide against a corner.

Actually the numbers show that since he's been a starter, he's scored more touchdowns than any wide receiver in the NFL and only 5 wide receivers have earned more yards. Last season he scored the same number of touchdowns wide as he did tight.

I said he is asking nearly twice what they are offering. As I understand it the franchise tag is somewhere around 7 million, unless I'm off on that. But he wants to be designated as a WR so that he can make 12 million.