No, the franchise offer is simply a placeholder in most cases until a deal can be made. Remember Brees?

But, you ignored my three requests. Okay, you did, in sorts, address the first, but even the Saints know he is worth FAR more than a TE tag, which, by the way, they didn't determine. The NFL did.

More important are the second two queries.

We know the second can't be answered. but how about the last?

Third, show me any demand concerning an upcoming contract from Jimmy Graham whatsoever.

Show me this one? Show me any demand at all from Jimmy Graham.

Any.

I did address it. He has made made it clear he wants to be designated WR money. His unwillingness to agree to less is a demand. How did you miss that? You want me to show you an exact quote from him? When do we ever get those? They let their agents do all the talking. Agents don't think for players, they work for them. They offer advice, but ultimately the choices are up to the players. You make it seem as though players have no say in negotiations and that's absurd on your part.

I'm sorry, but you have not. Show me any source that attributes Jimmy Graham as to have made any demands or having turned down any deal. Hell. Show me any quote from his agent Sexton then, that he has turned an offer or made any demands.

Do that. That all. Because it has never happened.

And you know this how? You think they are going to tell you what they are negotiating? Does not the absence of a deal show a demand is not being met. We have heard for months they were in talks. So what were they talking about? shoes? Get over yourself guy.

So, when did they tell you that Graham turned down an offer? And when did they tell you about demands for WR money around $12 million?

All I am discrediting is that either of the above have happened as many claim. I have no clue what they are negotiating or what offers have or have not been made. But Jimmy Graham is being crucified by many saying he has turned down a supposed offer and has demanded a supposed demand.

It is you and others, not me, that are making the claims. All I am saying is don't believe the hype. It is all media driven and is seldom anywhere near the truth.

I never said anything about demands to begin with. Not contract demands. But you can use a little common sense to figure out that talks aren't going so well if they had to place the franchise tag, and then the subsequent legal battle kinds of boils down to turning down the franchise tag, wouldn't you say? But you want to blame the NFLPA. Fine. You no nothing more than I do about who did what. So why are you on my case if you have no more proof than I?

Common sense. Both the NFLPA and the NFL wants this issue resolved. It was first addressed with Terrell Suggs with DE vs. LB. That matter never made it to arbitration. I would suspect that the NFLPA has pressured Sexton to tread water and the NFL has asked Loomis and the Saints to do the same to get this issue settled once and for all.

We all know the Saints and Graham will make a deal and the tag won't have any affect on him. The exact same thing happened with the Brees tag. We all knew he would get the deal and not play on the tag, but the PA and the league wanted it ironed out first.