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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal Why does it chap you ass what I think? It should have no affect on you. Your hatred of any opinion that does not match yours is painfully obvious. you have essentially asked me the same ...

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Old 07-14-2014, 10:29 PM   #1
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Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract

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Why does it chap you ass what I think? It should have no affect on you. Your hatred of any opinion that does not match yours is painfully obvious.

you have essentially asked me the same question about 10 different ways. What is your problem with comprehension? It matters to me what they pay him because there are limits to what a team can afford. I would rather have him on my team than not, but not at the cost of losing more players down the road. I am a fan of this TEAM. I'm not bashing ANYONE. I'm stating facts that you don't like to hear. You don't like it when I say he's not physical enough. Too bad. I want this team to succeed, and so I am thinking about what this team can afford right now. If you don't agree, i don't care. It's just my opinion. I gave my opinion. I will always give my opinion. I'm always talking the Saints, though, no matter what it's about or whether anyone agrees or not. Know why? because I give a damn.
That is the whole point. The team can afford him and a whole hell of a lot more. The cap is not an issue. Hell yes I wish he was a freaking physical monster on top of being the pass catching TE perhaps in history. I also want to fart quarters on demand.

The point is that the team can EASILY afford him and much more.
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:35 PM   #2
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That is the whole point. The team can afford him and a whole hell of a lot more. The cap is not an issue. Hell yes I wish he was a freaking physical monster on top of being the pass catching TE perhaps in history. I also want to fart quarters on demand.

The point is that the team can EASILY afford him and much more.
They can EASILY afford him? Why did we go to arbitration then? Why do you, oh master of knowledge, believe that these geniuses in the Saints front office, themselves, or challenging this?

I don't care what you think you know. I understand the salary cap, and guaranteed money. I've been a football fan for many years and I have heard all about it over and over again. I don't care if you have more degrees than a thermometer. That just means you owe tuition money. I'm actually quite good with numbers.
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They can EASILY afford him? Why did we go to arbitration then? Why do you, oh master of knowledge, believe that these geniuses in the Saints front office, themselves, or challenging this?

I don't care what you think you know. I understand the salary cap, and guaranteed money. I've been a football fan for many years and I have heard all about it over and over again. I don't care if you have more degrees than a thermometer. That just means you owe tuition money. I'm actually quite good with numbers.
Sorry, no tuition money. Scholarships.

Now, to your question about arbitration. The Saints did not go to arbitration. The Saints simply applied the general franchise tag on Graham to allow for more time to come to a long term deal. The NFL front office, not the Saints, designated the tag as that of a TE. This was an opportunity that the NFLPA (Players Association) had been looking for since their last attempt with the Terrell Suggs designation (DE versus LB). The NFLPA filed a grievance on behalf of Graham and they solely litigated the grievance against the NFL (not the Saints).

And yes, with the rapidly increasing cap the Saints are looking quite comfortable signing anyone they wish. How do you think they signed the top safety free agent on the market?
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Sorry, no tuition money. Scholarships.

Now, to your question about arbitration. The Saints did not go to arbitration. The Saints simply applied the general franchise tag on Graham to allow for more time to come to a long term deal. The NFL front office, not the Saints, designated the tag as that of a TE. This was an opportunity that the NFLPA (Players Association) had been looking for since their last attempt with the Terrell Suggs designation (DE versus LB). The NFLPA filed a grievance on behalf of Graham and they solely litigated the grievance against the NFL (not the Saints).

And yes, with the rapidly increasing cap the Saints are looking quite comfortable signing anyone they wish. How do you think they signed the top safety free agent on the market?
The signed the top free agent safety after releasing a crap load of players, many of whom were owed far more money than they were ever worth.

And after signing him, look how long this process has taken with jimmy. Your so called argument is ridiculous. "Oh, the nfl said he was a TE". "Jimmy's agent was just appealing the NFL's ruling". The Saints placed the franchise tag on him knowing he was a tight end, and showed up in court to fight for their opinion that he should continue to be considered a tight end. Is that not the Saints actively going to arbitration? They knew this was going to happen the moment they placed the franchise tag on him and were ready to fight any ruling against it. Why? Because they need leverage to be able to bring down his asking price in a long term deal. Why? Because they can't EASILY afford him.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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The signed the top free agent safety after releasing a crap load of players, many of whom were owed far more money than they were ever worth.

And after signing him, look how long this process has taken with jimmy. Your so called argument is ridiculous. "Oh, the nfl said he was a TE". "Jimmy's agent was just appealing the NFL's ruling". The Saints placed the franchise tag on him knowing he was a tight end, and showed up in court to fight for their opinion that he should continue to be considered a tight end. Is that not the Saints actively going to arbitration? They knew this was going to happen the moment they placed the franchise tag on him and were ready to fight any ruling against it. Why? Because they need leverage to be able to bring down his asking price in a long term deal. Why? Because they can't EASILY afford him.
Just as it is the agent's job to get the player as much as possible, it is the GM's job to pay as little as possible. That is simple business economics. The Saints can easily afford more, by why pay more than necessary? Fans tend to take this whole logical process far too personally. Far more personally, in fact, than do the players and the teams.
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