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Saintaintso 07-15-2014 11:12 PM

Graham into Galvatron ? Graham 2.0 !
 
Now that this contract dispute is all over with and both he and the Saints are coming away with a Beneficial deal , it's time to get back to business. Here's what we know.

Yes Jimmy Graham is the ultimate receiving threat
Yes Jimmy Graham is the Best TE of All Time
Yes Jimmy Graham Deserves his Pay.

These things are all a testament to his Unnatural abilities and talents , but if anything were to really set this guy apart from anything the NFL let alone sports has ever seen , what would it be ? What would make this guy the Lebron James of Football ?

It's all in his Mind. He's a kind , passionate , thankful person who comes from under the bottom of the barrel. And sometimes humility although a great quality to have keeps you from that extra Gear. That Michael Jordan gene , That's blood in the water shark sense , you know the Aggression. Not saying he lacks it , but physical corners seem to bring out his feminine side a bit.

A new contract a new commitment to the running game a new season perhaps we"ll also be in for a new , pissed off , Reformed , Revamped Jimmy Graham , all hail Galvatron

Schmohams 07-15-2014 11:14 PM

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Best TE of all time? Ehh i'm not so sure about that. Aren't TEs supposed to do that blocking thing?

Danno 07-16-2014 06:55 AM

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Gonzalez and Sharp weren't good blockers either, and most consider them the greatest of all time.

saintsfan1976 07-16-2014 07:41 AM

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Jimmy's current stats:
36 games started
301 rec
3863 yds
41 td

For JG to be considered "best of all time", he'll need at least one ring, possibly a Superbowl MVP.

He'll also need to break Gonzo's records:
245 games started
1,325 rec
15,127 yds
111 td

B_Dub_Saint 07-16-2014 07:42 AM

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I see your point and I like it. He is humble off the the field but I see Jimmy gettin crunk after gaining 10 to 15 yards on regular plays, flexing his guns, and talkin sh!t. He has the passion but remember that foot injury had a bigger affect on his game more than we know.

B_Dub_Saint 07-16-2014 07:42 AM

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ScottF 07-16-2014 08:12 AM

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If he plays out this contract, he will have made $43.3 million over 8 years. Best TE ever? maybe, but certainly best value ever. And maybe best Saints pick ever as well. Sorry Evans and Colston.

saintfan 07-16-2014 09:26 AM

Forget all this "he must learn to block" rhetoric. To truly be considered great, it ain't blocking he needs to master, it's flopping. Tony Gonzalez was THE master of the flop. Jimmy must learn to flop. That's how he will become a truly dangerous man.

I'm not even kidding.

The Dude 07-16-2014 10:54 AM

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I don't know. I think we can pretty much take it as a given that he will miss or be severely limited by injury for 3-4 games a season. The way he plays lends itself to injury. It's not a knock on him, he hAs played very well hurt in the past. I do think it will limit his stats in the long run.

Audiotom 07-16-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 599770)
Forget all this "he must learn to block" rhetoric. To truly be considered great, it ain't blocking he needs to master, it's flopping. Tony Gonzalez was THE master of the flop. Jimmy must learn to flop. That's how he will become a truly dangerous man.

I'm not even kidding.

watching Talib, Keuchly and Seattle hold and mob him he better learn to gt off the line better and go for the ball but initiate them making early contact

Papa Voodoo 07-16-2014 11:26 AM

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Jimmy was lighting the league on fire until the NE game. Talib is one of few corners that can cover Jimmy. Talib took himself out of the game doing it too. That's also the game where Jimmy tore his tendon. He wasn't the same after that. He still played, but it was remiscient of Shockey having to score TDs on one leg...the extra gear and jumping were gone. He had the wrist the year before. Before that he was out of the playoffs vs. Seattle. He's physical, but he needs to protect his body a little better. He plays like Ed McCaffrey.

ScottF 07-16-2014 11:59 AM

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I keep reading about top CB's shutting Graham down.
1) It says a lot that defenses recognize JG's talent and use their #1 on him
2) It shows our weakness at WR last year

hopefully Stills and Cooks draw more attention this year

Danno 07-16-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 599784)
I keep reading about top CB's shutting Graham down.
1) It says a lot that defenses recognize JG's talent and use their #1 on him
2) It shows our weakness at WR last year

hopefully Stills and Cooks draw more attention this year

True, if Jimmy took their #1 CB out of the game, we should have been able to burn them with our other weapons either by run or by pass. Where was Colston? Moore? Stills? Ingram? PT? Sproles?

The addition of Cooks will certainly help.

halloween 65 07-16-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 599793)
True, if Jimmy took their #1 CB out of the game, we should have been able to burn them with our other weapons either by run or by pass. Where was Colston? Moore? Stills? Ingram? PT? Sproles?

The addition of Cooks will certainly help.

The O-line was the problem last season. Brees was running for his life back there, to me that was the problem, with more time to throw the happy feet syndrome goes away and the timing gets better. I will say all our WR do need to get off the line better,TE's included. I agree the run would take alot off but you know Payton, throw, throw, throw, that is the only knock I have ever had with him.

Rugby Saint II 07-16-2014 06:05 PM

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Just keep developing your craft son..........set more records and ignore the nay sayers.

Audiotom 07-16-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 599779)
Jimmy was lighting the league on fire until the NE game. Talib is one of few corners that can cover Jimmy. Talib took himself out of the game doing it too. That's also the game where Jimmy tore his tendon. He wasn't the same after that. He still played, but it was remiscient of Shockey having to score TDs on one leg...the extra gear and jumping were gone. He had the wrist the year before. Before that he was out of the playoffs vs. Seattle. He's physical, but he needs to protect his body a little better. He plays like Ed McCaffrey.

Talib, Kuechly and the Seattle guys were wearing him as a blanket

Problem is the refs don't feel as anxious to throw a flag with such a large specimen being defended

hagan714 07-16-2014 09:34 PM

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he is not a great TE
he is not a great WR

he is a freak some where in the middle. A freak that will one day cause the NFL to come up with a new position title for players like him. there are more and more coming up in the ranks now. by the time he hangs up his cleats i can imagine three or four huge impact players in the nfl like him.

now the defenses are always one step behind so it will be fun to watch the development of players to stop these guys.

Papa Voodoo 07-18-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 599832)
Talib, Kuechly and the Seattle guys were wearing him as a blanket

Problem is the refs don't feel as anxious to throw a flag with such a large specimen being defended

David and Goliath. If David had kicked Goliath in the balls or poked him in the eye it would be justified, but dirty if Goliath did it to David.

Shaq had this problem his whole career. He got fouled all of the time, but he was so big and strong it didn't get called like it would for a smaller player.

Papa Voodoo 07-18-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 599857)
he is not a great TE
he is not a great WR

he is a freak some where in the middle. A freak that will one day cause the NFL to come up with a new position title for players like him. there are more and more coming up in the ranks now. by the time he hangs up his cleats i can imagine three or four huge impact players in the nfl like him.

now the defenses are always one step behind so it will be fun to watch the development of players to stop these guys.

Split End?

billyt81 07-19-2014 12:00 AM

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I agree with the articles assertion that Graham is comparable to Calvin Johnson. Graham led the NFL in fade route catches last year. He has ridiculous physical tools. 6"6 260 lbs and running 4.4 40 yd dash. He claims this and it looks that way on the field. I've never seen a linebacker run with him. The duo of Cooks and Graham is gonna be special and The Saints offense this year is gonna be outrageous.

B_Dub_Saint 07-20-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 600000)
Split End?


Chicks in tight butt yoga pants. Man I love those. Here is my random post of the day :)

homerj07 07-20-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 599762)
I see your point and I like it. He is humble off the the field but I see Jimmy gettin crunk after gaining 10 to 15 yards on regular plays, flexing his guns, and talkin sh!t. He has the passion but remember that foot injury had a bigger affect on his game more than we know.

I agree time to grow up a little. Let your play on the filed do your talking and flexing.


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