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curlylouis 12-06-2004 11:09 PM

My list of potential head coaches
 
1. Nick Saban(can be gotten at the right price)
2. Jimmy Johnson(3 super bowl rings)
3. Tyrone Willingham(Former HC of Notre Dame and a classy guy, so I've heard)
4.Gary Kubiak(Denver Broncos offensive coordinator, was up against Jim Haslett for HC job the last time)
5.Dave Wannstedt(former Miami Dolphins HC)
What do you guys think?

shadowdrinker_x 12-07-2004 12:22 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
Don\'t forget Jimmy Johnson also won the National Championship while coaching for Miami , and played for the only Championship team to ever come out of Arkansas...He has Credentials out the wazoo..

Wanndstedt may be good for someone..i\'m just not sure if it is even the NFL that may be his best option...

Saban could be decent..or could go stragith to the gutter

I say ..we get a proven winner..

Jimmy Johnson is the cream of the crop right now...He\'s our man...

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-07-2004 05:33 AM

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1. Nick Saban(can be gotten at the right price)
He has the right credentials. He\'s a Belichic guy.
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2. Jimmy Johnson(3 super bowl rings)
He won\'t do it at any price anymore. And remember he said just a couple of weeks ago \"just sell the team and move it to Los Angeles.\"
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3. Tyrone Willingham(Former HC of Notre Dame and a classy guy, so I\'ve heard)
Credentials? AFAICT he\'s a college coach. We need a proven respected NFL caliber coach for this job.
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4.Gary Kubiak(Denver Broncos offensive coordinator, was up against Jim Haslett for HC job the last time)
I\'d disagree with this choice. We need a defensive minded coach. As much as I like watching the Colts run up the score, I\'d rather have a team with the mindset to keep the score down. Someone in the Dom Capers or Jack Del Rio mode.
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5.Dave Wannstedt(former Miami Dolphins HC)
We were having a nice conversation and then you had to go screw it up! :D He\'s had two stints at HC. He hasn\'t gone anywhere. He\'s not in the conversation.
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What do you guys think?
Romeo Crennel. Wait until February if necessary. Defensive genius. Innovative. 2 rings. Well respected around the league.

It\'s his time. We should go get him.

SFIAH

johnnythesaint 12-07-2004 08:07 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
I am still firmly in the Jimmy J camp, but would throw Fassel in an another viable option.

Basically, just get us someone with a proven record in the NFL.

However I am not hopeful that anything significant is going to be undertaken by Benson. He seems more interested in playing smoke and mirrors with the governor, than owning a competitive team.

If he does nothing, do we still endorse this team?
Do I still spend my hard earned money and time on some team that doesn\'t give any love back?

These are disturbing questions that my current frustration seems to be prompting. I don\'t mind if the team is bad, hell they have toiled in the realm of mediocrity alot, but I have serious personal issues with loving something which has no discernible interest in trying to repay that love.

It\'s not just senior management either, it is also the players, I am getting fed up to the nth degree with this whole organization. Somehow, they have managed over the last 4 years to idle, and now they are absolutely in reverse, with all the threads coming away at the hem. If nothing is done I will be sick to my stomach.



BrooksMustGo 12-07-2004 08:38 AM

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OK, here\'s the BMG spin machine on potential coaches.

1. Romeo Crennel--he would be my first choice. Heads and shoulders over the next available person. A proven defensive mind to fix the most glaring problem on this team since 2001.

2. Gary Kubiak--I don\'t think we can get him, but I really like that Denver always has a productive running game and I\'d like to see the run game become the signature for our new offense.

3. Brad Childress--He doesn\'t call the plays in Philly and they rely too much on the pass, but the NFC title games have to count for something.

4. Jim Fassel--Probably the most gifted QB coach in the league, a decent track record and would be a good rebuilder with a free agent or rookie QB. Probably the only recent head coach I would really want to consider. I bet he goes to Miami though.

5. Charlie Weiss--Great job of working with what he has. I\'d like to see what he could do with the existing offense, minus Brooks.

6. Mike Nolan--Defensive Coordinator Ravens. I don\'t know what the guy has for offense, but he should be able to fix the defense and gets to watch an offense lean on its running game every week.

7. Art Shell--Of all the retreads, this is the only guy I\'d seriously consider. All he ever did was win in Oakland and I\'m not sure why he wasn\'t coaxed out of retirement when the Vermeil\'s, Parcells, and Gibbs have all re-appeared.

Jimmy Johnson knows a lot about football and he was a great coach. IMO he got more interested in managing his portfolio and hanging out on his boat than winning superbowls. I think we\'d see more Miami and less Dallas from him. But in his prime, the guy had a keen eye for talent and HATED to lose. I would almost suggest him as a GM, but I wonder how much influence he would expect to have on coaching decisions.

Oh, and I wouldn\'t go get any college coaches. Anytime Saban\'s name comes up I just think about Michigan State. Willingham has only been a running backs coach on the pro level. Zook isn\'t ready to go back into the pros yet. He needs to recover from the beating he took from the Florida fans and alum. I can\'t really think of any other college coach I\'d want to roll the dice on.

I\'d like to see Savage from Baltimore as our GM for what it\'s worth.

[Edited on 7/12/2004 by BrooksMustGo]

TheJudge 12-07-2004 11:35 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
no fassel... the guy is too nice.. not enough discipline... and we NEED that....

Saint78 12-07-2004 07:47 PM

My list of potential head coaches
 
Here\'s my rundown for what it is worth:
1.) Nick Saban: This is the year to go after him because LSU will not try to hard to keep him cause they know Butch Davis wants to come to LSU & they will have a great coach & won\'t have to worry every time that there is an opening.
2.)Mike Shanahan: A Bill Walsh guy & Walsh always told everybody and his asst. coaches that 10 years in one place is enough and this is year #10. With him you kill 2 birds with 1 stone he could be the GM and let Loomis handle all the numbers and handle the cap. Also a guy can dream huh?
3.A) Charlie Weiss: Speaks for itself and maybe he brings Rohan Davey with him.
3.B) Romeo Crennell : If anybody could plug in one or two players on this defense and be sucsessful it would be him.
4.)Ray Rhodes : I give this guy another shot before I give it to Wannstedt.
5.)Jeff Fisher: If he gets canned I would do anything to get this guy.
But I have 2 reasons that we never hire any of these guys & proabally end up gettin Dave Campo:
#1.) TOM
#2.) BENSON

frankeefrank 12-07-2004 11:15 PM

My list of potential head coaches
 
1. Mike Zimmer w/ Sean Payton OC

2. Romeo w/ Butch Davis DC

Or, dare i say...
3. Haz w/ new DC

mutineer10 12-08-2004 04:42 AM

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1) Romeo Crennel - A little old for my taste, but I\'d rather have a deserving old guy with some potential than a \"proven\" old guy who\'s only proven he\'s a failure (Fassel) or that he\'s simply not interested anymore (J. Johnson). Could another defensive mind do what our present one cannot? I\'d be willing to find out...

2) Gary Kubiak - I\'m copying off BMG\'s paper! No seriously, I jumped on this guy\'s bandwagon last time we had one of these lists. Gotta like what happens with the run in Denver, and if they can do it with (Captain) Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, etc. we should be able to with Deuce and Stecker. The guy\'s also a former QB, so maybe he could do something with AB if we end up stuck with him - and we probably will.

3) Nick Saban - I\'m still really torn regarding this guy. It helps that Whodi informed me he\'s a former member of the Church of Belichick. He seems to have an excellent eye for talent and has done a fine job at LSU. He\'s obviously well-liked in the community, which would help general interest and ultimately ticket sales. Does any of this mean he\'d be a great NFL coach? For some reason my gut keeps telling me no...

4) Charlie Weiss - You\'ve gotta like most anybody from the present Patriots regime, but I wonder if his style fits us. It certainly doesn\'t suit AB, or our WR\'s for that matter (except maybe Horn, who is unfortunately getting no younger). Plus, he might bring Rohan Davey, who doesn\'t fit the Pats style now and looked awful in the preseason. I think Weiss might do well somewhere else, but he\'s probably a gamble for us...

5) Jim Haslett - Open fire! I think I\'ve caught a rash of sympathy for Haz. I keep looking at Bill Cowher, wondering why we can\'t have one of those, and this little voice says \"let\'s just give him one more year.\" Cowher has the advantage of a supportive organization, and is without a doubt the better coach. Still, I keep wanting to see Haz turn it around. With a massive shake-up - new GM, new OC & DC - could he do it? He\'ll probably never get the chance, but as the saying goes, \"sometimes the devil you know...\"

:( I wonder if maybe we\'re all getting our hopes a little too high prematurely. It\'s very rare that a first-year coach comes in and does well immediately - especially one who\'ll be taking over a ship with so many holes to patch. The unfortunate truth is that whoever we get is probably gonna need some time, but we\'re already sick of losing (that\'s why we\'re having this discussion). When our new coach goes 5-11 (or worse) his first year, are we gonna be on here attacking him, too? I\'ve never said changes don\'t need to be made ... I just wonder if we\'re ultimately willing to pay the price.

Danno 12-08-2004 06:35 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
Great thread, not much name name calling and great research and analysis. This sight is getting better and better.

I haven\'t done nearly as much research but I do have the answer...

Whoever the heck Scott Pioli or Phil Savage decide to hire.

4saintspirit 12-08-2004 08:32 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
Dan Reeves -- Has loads of positive experience --- is a proven winner --- a miracle worker for quarterbacks --- can definitely get the team to score early and often ---

Nick Saban --- loads of NFL experience -- a local hero who will give the fans something to cheer about.

Euphoria 12-08-2004 08:53 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
yall are forgetting 2 propects...

Deion Sanders
Terry Bradshaw

Saban I really don\'t think Saban wants to go to New Orleans at all.

BIGEASY504 12-08-2004 05:33 PM

My list of potential head coaches
 
Gary Kubiak/Charlie Weiss as had coach and O-coordinator and Mike Singletary/Dave Wannstedt as D-Coordinator, any thoughts?

Euphoria 12-08-2004 05:46 PM

My list of potential head coaches
 
Here is what I am leaning towards... Haslett.

Yes I said it... all he really is is a decision maker. The final word if you will when its game time. You get Randy back and then let him work replacing OC and DC, along with LB, WR, DB coaches, obviously he\'ll bring in the talent. I mean teams are going to have its bad years and good years no matter who is the HC, Pittsburg may very well be on to something and it maybe just that we don\'t have a supporting cast around the coach on the organizational side or staff wise. So fixing everything around Haslett maybe not a bad idea, he did well when Randy was here...

mutineer10 12-08-2004 07:26 PM

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:sulkoff:

I\'ll take a salvo, too ... but Euph I\'m in agreement with you on some levels.

I\'ll be the first to admit that I\'ve been rippin\' Haz early and often lately (still doing it on the \"Caption\" post), but I\'ve been giving it serious thought lately. I placed Haz #5 on my list, because after those four I put ahead of him, I\'d just as soon keep him.

I don\'t want Fassel, Reeves, J. Johnson, Shell, or any of the other number of old goats. I don\'t want an unproven college coach. I don\'t want a recent failure like Wannstedt or Davis. If I thought the needed changes would be made, I would\'ve placed Haslett higher on my list than I did.

I can\'t get over wanting to see Haslett do well. I admittedly wonder if he\'s capable of doing so sometimes, but I equally wonder if anyone we\'re gonna get will be any better.

Again, \"sometimes the devil you know...\"

johnnythesaint 12-09-2004 07:57 AM

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I couldn\'t agree with you more, vis-a-vis wanting Haslett to succeed. However if he stays then so does Brooks. I think Brooks has become a locker room scapegoat. I\'m not there, but I can read between the lines, and I can certainly watch the games.

It\'s like they want him to lose!!!
I sense a friction between him and almost everybody else. If Haslett does what he said they were \'thinking\' about last week. If he puts \'Booman\' in this week, and the team responds by elevating their play. Then I would consider him an option for next year. Don\'t get me wrong, I am not trying to agitate the \'Brooks\' camp, but it is obvious that we should at least experiment with Bouman.
It is not because Bouman is remotely better, but it would give Jim a chance to take his blinkers off, and see their is an offensive world without Aaron as well.

Aaron\'s play has not been any worse than the rest of the team, sometimes it\'s been better, but if I am gonna take Haslett serious for next year, he has to show a willingness to change key components to this team, the present recipe just isn\'t working!!!!

So this Sunday let\'s all cross our fingers that we get to see a bit of Bouman, we\'ve no longer got anything to lose.

RDOX 12-09-2004 10:28 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
All this conjecture about a head coaching change is fine and good, but it we DO NOT GET RID OF LOOMBOOM we are well and truly screwed. I\'m with whoever said \"whoever Scott Pioli wants.\"

Until Tom Benson dies or hands the reigns over to Rita, this franchise will be run by Arnold (sell tickets) FieldCow and will look like Benson Toyota in SanAntonio.

We need a football man in charge, pure and simple.

whodatsaintsfan26 12-09-2004 10:31 AM

My list of potential head coaches
 
What about Jim Johnson from Philly? He would immediatly fix the defensive problems that exist. His defense has been very good for years, even with big named players leaving. He plugs new guy in there and doesnt miss a beat.


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