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papz 07-29-2014 08:01 AM

Nick Toon works on receiving skills to score roster spot
 
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WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W.Va. — Saints receiver Nick Toon said he realizes there’s more than one way to earn the quarterback’s trust, his primary goal this preseason.

Wideouts can position themselves in the right places. They can make crafty adjustments on their routes to shake a defender and get open. They can spend extra time after practice working on timing and rhythm.

Yet none do the trick quite like simply catching the football.

“It’s easier said than done, but you just got to go out there and do your job,” Toon said after Monday’s training camp practice at The Greenbrier resort in West Virginia.

His job is something the 6-foot-4, 218-pound Toon did at offseason practices and through four days of training camp. He’s repeatedly gotten open deep downfield as well as across the middle in individual and team drills. In both situations, he’s consistently hauled the ball in, occasionally for scores.

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st thomas 07-29-2014 10:45 AM

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boy ol boy, I hope toon doesn't fall into the world of AA syndrome , there or so many solid receivers on this team.

Cruize 07-29-2014 01:08 PM

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Colston, Graham, Toon and Coleman would give the team a TALL redzone group. Easy for lil' shorty to see. :)

|Mitch| 07-29-2014 01:26 PM

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Toon is having a very good training camp from what I hear :bng:

dizzle88 07-29-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 601353)
Toon is having a very good training camp from what I hear :bng:

They've said that for the past 3 years lol

|Mitch| 07-29-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 601356)
They've said that for the past 3 years lol

He's working with the #1s exclusively, I believe...Seems he has finally turned the corner

dizzle88 07-29-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 601357)
He's working with the #1s exclusively, I believe...Seems he has finally turned the corner

Let's hope so! So much potential and it would be a shame to see him go the way of Adrian arrington

Danno 07-29-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 601356)
They've said that for the past 3 years lol

Not like this year. He looks faster stronger and more focused than ever. From all the tweets I'm reading he's been the most impressive WR we have not named Cooks, and its been really close between those two.

Crusader 07-29-2014 03:31 PM

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I really hope he makes the team and becomes the player we all have been hoping for. I love it when a guy works hard and finally becomes really good, those guys seldom stop working.

dizzle88 07-29-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 601362)
Not like this year. He looks faster stronger and more focused than ever. From all the tweets I'm reading he's been the most impressive WR we have not named Cooks, and its been really close between those two.

I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if toon shows up for us in a much improved way and I really hope he does

This is the year he can really make an impact for us when our offense is going through a youth movement just not sold on him so far until I see him come through for us in regular season games

TwistedTiger 07-29-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 601356)
They've said that for the past 3 years lol

Exactly! I'm tired of hearing about how great he is in training camp. How about making a catch during the regular season.

Danno 07-29-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedTiger (Post 601377)
Exactly! I'm tired of hearing about how great he is in training camp. How about making a catch during the regular season.

4 receptions, 68 yards, 17 YPC, in 8 games in which he was mostly a special teams player... Oh, and 1 drop.

rezburna 07-29-2014 05:42 PM

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I'd love for Toon to shine. Pair him with Cooks and Stills and we got our core for years.

ChrisXVI 07-29-2014 05:55 PM

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Do something Toon or get out of here. I'm tired of WR's who look great in training camp/preseason but can't make the jump to regular season (Arrington, Tanner, soon to be Toon??)

Danno 07-29-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 601383)
Do something Toon or get out of here. I'm tired of WR's who look great in training camp/preseason but can't make the jump to regular season (Arrington, Tanner, soon to be Toon??)

So after 1 season you're ready to give up on Toon?

He's progressing much faster than Lance Moore did, and Moore turned out pretty well.

ChrisXVI 07-29-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 601384)
So after 1 season you're ready to give up on Toon?

He's progressing much faster than Lance Moore did, and Moore turned out pretty well.

We're going on Toon's 3rd season now and yes, if he doesn't show up big then I'm done with him. Stills showed his worth in his first year and Cooks is killing it so far in his first training camp. S*** or get off the pot Toon. That's a valuable roster spot that I'm sure another player would love to have.

Danno 07-29-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 601391)
We're going on Toon's 3rd season now and yes, if he doesn't show up big then I'm done with him. Stills showed his worth in his first year and Cooks is killing it so far in his first training camp. S*** or get off the pot Toon. That's a valuable roster spot that I'm sure another player would love to have.

1st season was IR.

Again, he's progressing better than Lance Moore did.

And who is actually proven that can take his spot?

SaintGup 07-30-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 601391)
We're going on Toon's 3rd season now and yes, if he doesn't show up big then I'm done with him. Stills showed his worth in his first year and Cooks is killing it so far in his first training camp. S*** or get off the pot Toon. That's a valuable roster spot that I'm sure another player would love to have.

You have contradicted yourself. If you are tired of receivers that show up in training camp but don't deliver (as I am sure we all are) then saying Cooks is killing it so far doesn't strengthen your argument. We all know that training camp is not the test of a good pro player but it can't hurt to do well to earn yourself a roster spot.

hagan714 07-30-2014 10:16 AM

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lets see you want to be a WR in the NFL and your sports writers are talking about you working hard to catch the ball. lmao catch da ball you gets em a check.

vpheughan 07-31-2014 10:40 AM

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Where's the "Toon looking to "Catch" on with Saints" Title?

Jack Vegas 07-31-2014 03:08 PM

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I like Nick a lot, the criticism some people throw his way is ignorant and unfair. Kid looked outstanding in preseason two years in a row, is looking improved on that this year so far. But he had a couple of bad plays in a game where nothing whatsoever was going right for the entire team, so we are just supposed to toss him out the window now.

All I can say, It's a good thing some of you aren't running the team. Keenan Lewis would've been cut last preseason and Cam Jordan would probably be getting his 13 sacks for the Texans or something because he didn't rack up double digits by his second year.

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Originally Posted by TwistedTiger (Post 601377)
Exactly! I'm tired of hearing about how great he is in training camp. How about making a catch during the regular season.

As I recall he had a pretty big time catch against the Bears last year. Outleaped the corner to the sideline then held on after he got cracked by the safety. It was a long play too, 30 plus yards.

so that's one.

Rugby Saint II 08-01-2014 11:39 AM

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We might go from a slightly below average wide receiving core to one of the top WR groups in the NFL. We're not going to have a problem getting separation this year.

dizzle88 08-01-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 601614)
As I recall he had a pretty big time catch against the Bears last year. Outleaped the corner to the sideline then held on after he got cracked by the safety. It was a long play too, 30 plus yards.

so that's one.

That was a great catch and great play by him, unfortunately he dropped an easy TD on a uncontested pass 4 plays later on a slant route in the red zone

All our offense struggled vs the jets but he had the chance to give us the spark and he failed in a massive way - dropped a deep ball for a TD, tipped a couple passes in the air that got picked aswell

Like I said, I'd love for him to prove me and a lot of other people wrong with his play this year, but forgive us if we are a little apprehensive towards him at this moment

Jack Vegas 08-01-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 601829)
That was a great catch and great play by him, unfortunately he dropped an easy TD on a uncontested pass 4 plays later on a slant route in the red zone

I have the game saved on my computer. Your memory is wrong.

After the above play:

- 1st down threw to Meachem in the end zone, was interfered with but not called
- 2nd down about a 6 yard throw to Graham
-3rd down short throw to Sproles
-4th and short PT dives for a 1st
-1st down, throws to Still in far corner of end zone, broken up by #26
-2nd down, screen to PT, who runs it in for a 25-yard TD

He didn't drop any other pass in that game either, in fact that one play was the only time he was targeted.

I am not pointing this out to make you feel stupid, but a lot of times people will remember things in a way that fits into their pre-existing opinion. The reason I keep every game recorded is so I can go back and look at what actually happened instead of my own (or somebody else's) memory that may be clouded by flawed perceptions.

dizzle88 08-02-2014 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 601885)
I have the game saved on my computer. Your memory is wrong.

After the above play:

- 1st down threw to Meachem in the end zone, was interfered with but not called
- 2nd down about a 6 yard throw to Graham
-3rd down short throw to Sproles
-4th and short PT dives for a 1st
-1st down, throws to Still in far corner of end zone, broken up by #26
-2nd down, screen to PT, who runs it in for a 25-yard TD

He didn't drop any other pass in that game either, in fact that one play was the only time he was targeted.

I am not pointing this out to make you feel stupid, but a lot of times people will remember things in a way that fits into their pre-existing opinion. The reason I keep every game recorded is so I can go back and look at what actually happened instead of my own (or somebody else's) memory that may be clouded by flawed perceptions.

Fair enough, I must have just got the game wrong but I can definitely remember him dropping an easy slant in the endzone

Like I said, I'll be the first person to admit I was wrong if he shows up in the regular season with consistent performances, until then however I am a little wary of getting on the nick toon bandwagon

QBREES9 08-03-2014 01:46 PM

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You can't make the club if your butt is always in the tub. You can't make the club if you can't catch the ball.

Plain and simple.

halloween 65 08-03-2014 02:26 PM

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I really hope he stays healthy, untaped potential!!

billyt81 08-03-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 601779)
We might go from a slightly below average wide receiving core to one of the top WR groups in the NFL. We're not going to have a problem getting separation this year.

This is spot on. I'll take it a step further though and claim that our WRs last year were one of the worst groups in the league. With Coston playing hurt and Stills in his rookie year, there was not much there. With Cooks, a healthy Colston, Stills year 2 and hopefully a healthy Morgan or a Toon putting it all together, maybe now the Saints do have a stellar WR core for once in Brees career.

Mr.Riaton 08-03-2014 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 602072)
This is spot on. I'll take it a step further though and claim that our WRs last year were one of the worst groups in the league. With Coston playing hurt and Stills in his rookie year, there was not much there. With Cooks, a healthy Colston, Stills year 2 and hopefully a healthy Morgan or a Toon putting it all together, maybe now the Saints do have a stellar WR core for once in Brees career.

Thats great and all,but if our o line doesn't perform like they should, we aint got sh*t.

foreverfan 08-04-2014 03:56 AM

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hagan714 08-04-2014 07:43 AM

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Nick had some issues in a game with a loss so that is always in the spot light.

lets review.

year 1 - injury issue coming out of college and needed to rehab bit.

year 2 - was basically his rookie year. welcome to the nfl big guy. what did you learn. when you drop a few passes Drew will drop you like a old stinky fish. SP will will sit you and it does get lonely down on the end of the bench. he played on just 205 snaps and was active for just eight games, looking over matched much of the time. 8 catches 68 yards

year three - Objective: consistent consistent consistent consistent

big factor is
- He's healthy for the first time since he got drafted.
- He has his legs underneath him again for the first time since he got drafted.

So this is first year IMO that we will get to see what he can do.

one of the reasons i get tired of drafted damaged goods. but this pick i understood and the risks involved

the-commish 08-04-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 601893)
Fair enough, I must have just got the game wrong but I can definitely remember him dropping an easy slant in the endzone

Like I said, I'll be the first person to admit I was wrong if he shows up in the regular season with consistent performances, until then however I am a little wary of getting on the nick toon bandwagon

Patriots game perhaps.

dizzle88 08-04-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the-commish (Post 602139)
Patriots game perhaps.

Yeah I believe your right mate, it was the patriots game

Jack Vegas 08-04-2014 01:51 PM

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It was actually the Dolphins game, with about a minute left in the 1st half. Not a slant, it was a scramble drill. Brees ducked out of the pocket under pressure, Toon cut off his route and headed back toward the middle of the field. He had the corner on his hip. It was not an ideal throw from Brees who was running to his left and threw across his body. Toon had to try to catch the ball over his right shoulder pad.

He should've made the play, the ball did hit him in the hands. But considering the direction he was running with a trailing corner it was a tough play to reach over your back shoulder like that.

Gruden dogged him a little bit for it, but only after they showed the slow-motion replay. Before that he was talking about how the corner (Nolan Carroll) made a nice play to break it up. Just to illustrate it was a bang-bang kind of play. In fact I'm not even sure you would classify it as a true "drop" if you were charting stats because those are usually only on contested plays.

dizzle88 08-04-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 602146)
It was actually the Dolphins game, with about a minute left in the 1st half. Not a slant, it was a scramble drill. Brees ducked out of the pocket under pressure, Toon cut off his route and headed back toward the middle of the field. He had the corner on his hip. It was not an ideal throw from Brees who was running to his left and threw across his body. Toon had to try to catch the ball over his right shoulder pad.

He should've made the play, the ball did hit him in the hands. But considering the direction he was running with a trailing corner it was a tough play to reach over your back shoulder like that.

Gruden dogged him a little bit for it, but only after they showed the slow-motion replay. Before that he was talking about how the corner (Nolan Carroll) made a nice play to break it up. Just to illustrate it was a bang-bang kind of play. In fact I'm not even sure you would classify it as a true "drop" if you were charting stats because those are usually only on contested plays.

Nice work on finding it JV, all I want to see from Toon is good consistency and bearing in mind all we've heard from camp supposedly he's made some great strides

There's a reason the players like Colston and Moore are/were fan favourites, they made tough plays in critical situations, I hope Toon can do the same this season

Jack Vegas 08-04-2014 02:16 PM

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No doubt he needs to get more consistent. And I wasn't trying to sound like president of his fan club. I just think we've seen so little of him at this point it's probably not fair to make any judgements yet either way.

Just from watching the few plays from last year he was involved though, I'm excited. He's almost a perfect hybrid of Colston and Meachem. Imagine a guy with good deep speed who can also out-jump DB's in the end zone.

I might even argue that at least in terms of pure physical tools, he's the closest thing to a prototype #1 receiver we have. Colston is big but slow, Stills and Cooks are fast but small. Toon is the only guy on the roster who really combines size and speed (other than perhaps guys like Coleman or Seantavius Jones, but we've seen nothing of them yet).


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