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SmashMouth 08-03-2014 07:24 AM

New Orleans Saints roster brimming with young stars poised for breakout seasons
 
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The standing-room-only crowd that lined the practice field at the Advocare Sports Performance facility here Saturday morning was disappointed at the relative lack of star power in the Black & Gold scrimmage.

No Drew Brees, who sat out the scrimmage with a strained oblique muscle.

No Champ Bailey, who was sidelined with some form of top-secret, mystery injury.

And no Jairus Byrd, who is still recovering from offseason back surgery.

A few fans voiced their dejection to each other in the stands. But once the action started, their dismay quickly disappeared. The Saints' roster is bursting at the seams with young talent and several of them put on a show Saturday as the club zipped through its first full-contact, game-like session of camp.

The NFL largely is a young man's game. A player reaches his prime early, usually from his second to fourth season. The sweet spot for an NFL player usually is anywhere from age 23 to 27. And the Saints are loaded with these guys. It's the age when you finally know what you're doing and are still able to do it.

Twelve of the Saints' 22 starters in the 2009 Super Bowl season were in this age range along with punter Thomas Morstead and special teams captain Courtney Roby. The average age of the Super Bowl team was 27.7, according to Pro Football Reference. Last year's squad was 26.6. And this year's squad could skew even younger.

Of the 90 players on the Saints roster, 56 are between the ages of 23 and 27. Eleven of them are projected starters: Terron Armstead (23); Byrd (27); Rafael Bush (27); Junior Galette (26); Jimmy Graham (27); Akiem Hicks (24); Mark Ingram (24); Cameron Jordan (25); Tim Lelito (25); Patrick Robinson (240: and Kenny Vaccaro (23). Several others - Victor Butler (27); Travaris Cadet (25); Josh Hill (24); Khiry Robinson (24) Kenny Stills (22); Nick Toon (25) - are expected to play regular contributing roles.

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Danno 08-03-2014 01:19 PM

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And he left out John Jenkins, Glenn Foster, Corey White, Kevin Reddick, Tyrunn Walker, Rod Sweeting, Marcus Ball and perhaps Derek Dimke.

QBREES9 08-03-2014 01:34 PM

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No Champ Bailey, who was sidelined with some form of top-secret, mystery injury. UM!!!!

We have some talent.

Rugby Saint II 08-03-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 601999)
And he left out John Jenkins, Glenn Foster, Corey White, Kevin Reddick, Tyrunn Walker, Rod Sweeting, Marcus Ball and perhaps Derek Dimke.

Just to name a few.

brees84 08-03-2014 06:35 PM

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Pierre Warren.

The Dude 08-03-2014 07:06 PM

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Wait Byrd is out again?

|Mitch| 08-03-2014 07:08 PM

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Wait Byrd is out again?

he's been limited since he's came back, they held him out of the scrimmage just because...

homerj07 08-03-2014 08:35 PM

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Is anyone worried about Byrd being healthy for the season. Or is it too early to start this type of thinking?

|Mitch| 08-03-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 602073)
Is anyone worried about Byrd being healthy for the season. Or is it too early to start this type of thinking?

not me; he participated in the team drills later in the week...

Utah_Saint 08-03-2014 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 602075)
not me; he participated in the team drills later in the week...

Yeah, I'm not worried yet either. If he misses the preseason games, then I'd worry.

Danno 08-04-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 602075)
not me; he participated in the team drills later in the week...

And Payton mentioned that they'd bring him along slowly just to be safe.

No worries.

AsylumGuido 08-04-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 602073)
Is anyone worried about Byrd being healthy for the season. Or is it too early to start this type of thinking?

Not worried at all and no need to start thinking it at all.

AsylumGuido 08-04-2014 09:59 AM

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Byrd did not and does not have an injury. He had a disc that was putting some pressure on the spinal cord causing bruising, which causes pain. It could have been handled with medication, but they decided there was plenty of time to permanently correct the situation by enlarging the opening in the disc, thus eliminating the irritation forever. According to my physical therapist (I tore a bicep a few months back), it is a fairly common procedure with basically a 100% success rate. He said that Byrd would simply need to get back into game shape and the back would no longer be an issue at all.

So you see, Byrd is perfectly healthy already, he is just getting back into peak physical condition.

Danno 08-04-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 602117)
Byrd did not and does not have an injury. He had a disc that was putting some pressure on the spinal cord causing bruising, which causes pain. It could have been handled with medication, but they decided there was plenty of time to permanently correct the situation by enlarging the opening in the disc, thus eliminating the irritation forever. According to my physical therapist (I tore a bicep a few months back), it is a fairly common procedure with basically a 100% success rate. He said that Byrd would simply need to get back into game shape and the back would no longer be an issue at all.

So you see, Byrd is perfectly healthy already, he is just getting back into peak physical condition.

My guess is they don't want him at full go until his physical conditioning is back to 100%. Throwing him into full participation right now is just asking for some sort of muscle pull or strain.

dizzle88 08-04-2014 10:40 AM

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My guess is they don't want him at full go until his physical conditioning is back to 100%. Throwing him into full participation right now is just asking for some sort of muscle pull or strain.

Sounds about spot on, the minor procedure he had most likely makes the muscle around it tender and easily strainable until its fully healed

One reach for a high pass or overstretching would strain the muscle pretty easily, like what's been said - Minor surgery, wasn't necessary but why not eradicate it altogether when we had the appropriate time frame to do so!

ikecomp 08-04-2014 10:56 AM

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"--Vaccaro, a faster, rangier version of Roman Harper at safety. On Saturday, he flashed his jaw-dropping athleticism, running down and then throwing down Jimmy Graham from behind to save a touchdown then smashing Khiry Robinson in run support with a tackle so violent it broke his helmet."

This brought a small tear of joy to my face

saintsfan403 08-04-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ikecomp (Post 602128)
"--Vaccaro, a faster, rangier version of Roman Harper at safety. On Saturday, he flashed his jaw-dropping athleticism, running down and then throwing down Jimmy Graham from behind to save a touchdown then smashing Khiry Robinson in run support with a tackle so violent it broke his helmet."

This brought a small tear of joy to my face

Who Dat.

billyt81 08-04-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ikecomp (Post 602128)
"--Vaccaro, a faster, rangier version of Roman Harper at safety. On Saturday, he flashed his jaw-dropping athleticism, running down and then throwing down Jimmy Graham from behind to save a touchdown then smashing Khiry Robinson in run support with a tackle so violent it broke his helmet."

This brought a small tear of joy to my face

Wow Vaccaro ran down Jimmy from behind! Id like to have seen that. No doubt Harper couldnt. Id like to see Vaccaro race Harper because their combine 40s were very similar.

dizzle88 08-04-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 602171)
Wow Vaccaro ran down Jimmy from behind! Id like to have seen that. No doubt Harper couldnt. Id like to see Vaccaro race Harper because their combine 40s were very similar.

Watch the video I posted on the Brandin Cooks is making serious noise Thread, the video on there shows vaccaro tackling Jimmy and its pretty sweet

Euphoria 08-04-2014 03:51 PM

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Cut Brees and our average age will drop!

Utah_Saint 08-04-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 602183)
Cut Brees and our average age will drop!

As would our average wins per season.


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