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Jack Vegas 08-09-2014 07:12 PM

Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Yeah, I know, crazy huh? Bear with me....

If you remember back to the Super Bowl year we had some key contributions from a guy named David Thomas. He played some tight end, some lead fullback, a little bit of h-back. He could block, catch and run after the catch. And he was a good special teamer. He made some big plays in crucial moments that season because everybody was so concerned with trying to cover everybody else they forgot about him.

I see a lot of David Thomas in Josh Hill. For one thing, he's a lot bigger this year than last year. He doesn't look like a converted wide receiver anymore, he looks like a tight end. The physical resemblance is uncanny. Last night those catches he made looked a whole lot like Thomas. Act like he's going to block, slip out to the flat while nobody's looking and it's an easy first down. And from what I've seen of him blocking, it's pretty good. Especially when he can use his speed to get outside and block a corner or safety on an off-tackle run.

I think Hill has made an impression on SP and we're going to see him getting a lot of snaps this year. He might catch 30-35 passes. I would not be surprised at all if Hill ended up having more of a role in the offense than whoever ends up as the #4 WR.

homerj07 08-09-2014 07:20 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
It makes sense. Let's hope you are a seer.

burningmetal 08-09-2014 08:10 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Just my opinion, but I think if Hill ends up being more involved than our 4th WR, we're in trouble. I don't see that happening though. I still, to this day, have no clue where he came from or when we even signed him. I just know he popped up at the weirdest times last season and they tried to force it to him when he should have been the very last option. He consistently failed to come through. I'm not going to change my opinion on him until he does something meaningful.

lee909 08-09-2014 08:25 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
You are all welcome aboard my train

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Danno 08-09-2014 09:17 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
There's a reason Payton kept him last year. He has potential to be a good TE in this league.

rezburna 08-09-2014 10:14 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
I openly doubted him on the forum. Griffin as well. I'm warming up to both of them. The only player I'll forever doubt is Strief. Lol.

The Dude 08-09-2014 10:18 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Ive always liked him. We are pretty deep there. I think we didn't utilize Watson enough as it is last year. He's another great threat.

dizzle88 08-10-2014 02:14 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
That long gain vs rams was pretty sick to be fair, I had no idea Josh hill could move like that

He could contribute in a good way for us just like David Thomas did, although hill is a lot younger

Crusader 08-10-2014 02:53 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Anytime a player is compared to David Thomas that's a good thing for that player because it means you're probably not great at anything but good at a whole lot of things and that will keep you around the league for a long time.

SmashMouth 08-10-2014 03:11 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
A TE that actually blocks? NeauxFW...whodathunkit?

spkb25 08-10-2014 06:58 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Hill looks good. Nice to see another option

hagan714 08-10-2014 08:43 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
I hope he sees the field more this year so we get a real look at the kid. my only concerns with the TE position is the fact Watson is our only TE that can be called a blocker.

hennr 08-10-2014 09:16 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
If Saints go with Griffin as back up qb then have kilgore as 3rd qb on practice squad.this could allow saints to keep a 4th Te on 53 roster.

Danno 08-10-2014 10:13 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hennr (Post 603155)
If Saints go with Griffin as back up qb then have kilgore as 3rd qb on practice squad.this could allow saints to keep a 4th Te on 53 roster.

I think Hill has moved firmly into the #3 TE spot and bearing down on that #2 spot as Watson ages.

I've read some good things about Hamm and Jacobs though. They might be that 4th TE in lieu of that 5th RB or 6th WR or 9th OL etc...

Paytons has surprisingly kept 4 TE's before so it wouldn't shock me. We could run a lot more 2-TE sets, or even 3 TE's considering Grahams ability to line up wide.

Options are good.

jnormand 08-10-2014 11:31 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Hill went to a small high school in a pretty small town just west of where I live (in the dry desolate part of the state with nothing but rock and sage brush). He attended Idaho State University. A small university in eastern Idaho.

The kid has potential. I've been keeping an eye on him. Its been cool to see him develop.

hennr 08-10-2014 12:31 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Looks like Hill up to about 255 on a 6-5 frame.

dizzle88 08-10-2014 01:12 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 603167)
I think Hill has moved firmly into the #3 TE spot and bearing down on that #2 spot as Watson ages.

I've read some good things about Hamm and Jacobs though. They might be that 4th TE in lieu of that 5th RB or 6th WR or 9th OL etc...

Paytons has surprisingly kept 4 TE's before so it wouldn't shock me. We could run a lot more 2-TE sets, or even 3 TE's considering Grahams ability to line up wide.

Options are good.

We ran a few 2 TE sets vs rams and had pretty good success running the ball to that side, although Ingram ran the ball well in every formation they were in

Rugby Saint II 08-10-2014 01:46 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Last year I thought he looked stiff when he was on the field. This year he looks fluid...........smooth even.

billyt81 08-12-2014 11:15 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
I'd love to see formations with Jimmy split wide or in the slot and Watson or whoever our best blocking TE is. Even if he's a TE, he's one of the best if not the best WR in the league. I actually think he's a better WR than Calvin Johnson. For those who think that's crazy, remember he led the league in fade route receptions and receiving TDs. Plus he's way faster than Colston.

Jack Vegas 10-06-2014 11:16 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
what-what

Mardigras9 10-07-2014 08:25 AM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
He's having a great year so far.

bobad 10-07-2014 03:08 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 603111)
Just my opinion, but I think if Hill ends up being more involved than our 4th WR, we're in trouble. I don't see that happening though. I still, to this day, have no clue where he came from or when we even signed him. I just know he popped up at the weirdest times last season and they tried to force it to him when he should have been the very last option. He consistently failed to come through. I'm not going to change my opinion on him until he does something meaningful.

He was a raw rookie last year.

QBREES9 10-07-2014 06:42 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
I think the secret is out.

Danno 10-07-2014 06:49 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 617077)
what-what

There were several of us high on this kid. I was disappointed at how many threw him under the bus because of that stupid end-around last year and 1 drop on a bad pass.

I have no problem gloating about it now, especially because of how venomous the anti-Hill crap was in the off-season. HE WAS AN UDFA ROOKIE!!!!

Suck it Hill haters!!!!:broccoli:

jeanpierre 10-07-2014 08:11 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
I'm wondering why we're not using two-tight end sets...

Since Drew seems to like lobbing the ball so much, give him another power forward on the field...

right?!?

Danno 10-07-2014 08:16 PM

Re: Josh Hill, Secret Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 617246)
I'm wondering why we're not using two-tight end sets...

Since Drew seems to like lobbing the ball so much, give him another power forward on the field...

right?!?

I thought we were using 2 TE sets pretty frequently? Well for us anyway.


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