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WhoDat!656 08-11-2014 09:14 AM

Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
In the competition for carries in New Orleans, Pierre Thomas is falling behind Mark Ingram and Khiry Robinson.

Thomas was the team’s leading rusher last year, with 147 carries for 549 yards, but the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that Ingram and Robinson have moved ahead of Thomas, who took a pay cut to remain in New Orleans this offseason. In practice, Ingram and Robinson are splitting first-team reps while Thomas works with the second team.

Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson | ProFootballTalk

Danno 08-11-2014 09:17 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Thomas is an aging vet, and Payton mentioned he was going to be easier on the vets.

I'm a huge Ingram and Robinson fan, but PT is still the man until you are otherwise informed.:p

foreverfan 08-11-2014 09:18 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
We need Thomas for the playoffs.

|Mitch| 08-11-2014 09:28 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 603286)
We need Thomas for the playoffs.

Why? If Ingram/Robinson continue where they left off the last playoffs and the first preseason game, we "need" no one!

halloween 65 08-11-2014 10:13 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
I have no problem with this. PT should at this stage in his carreer be a really good change of pace type of back letting the young studs plow the majority of the field. Ingram has been a late bloomer and thats all, Robinson(who I like a little better) was undrafted but has earned each carry will make a great tandam. With Payton saying he is going to run more( I've heard that one before) we should (barring injury) and the O-line doing their job be very stout at running the ball.Cadet needs to step it up in my opinion in every way.

Euphoria 08-11-2014 10:25 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Less carries just means it helps prolong's his career.

We know what PT is capable of.

jnormand 08-11-2014 10:44 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
He'll be the third down back. Its fine. PT will still get snaps. He prob won't be used to pound the rock like he was used for earlier in his career. I doubt if anyone on this board trusts any other RB on a 3rd down pass or screen play more than they trust PT. Regardless off how Ingram or Khiry are running.

PT will have his moments too. He's still the most versatile back we have.

Jack Vegas 08-11-2014 10:59 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
These guys will all get plenty of carries. PT still looked great 2/3rds of the way into last season before he got that chest injury. If he has "lost a step" he sure lost it fast.

TheOak 08-11-2014 11:03 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
I am not too sure I agree with Ingram and Robinson moving past PT as much as PT drifting back into a different more specialized role. As the years pile up on NFL players duty's change and you often see a veteran no longer playing special teams just to keep the mileage down.

We have Robinson and Ingram to pound the rock and take the abuse, lets play smart ball and use PT when he fits the situation... Like the Screen:)

Rugby Saint II 08-11-2014 11:35 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
I fully expected Ingram to be the one dropping on the list.

Mr.Riaton 08-11-2014 11:42 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Whatever role he plays is fine by me,I just want him to retire a Saint.

WhoDat!656 08-11-2014 12:05 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
New Orleans Saints' running back Pierre Thomas returns to practice Monday

Beastmode 08-11-2014 12:17 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
I honestly see them all getting about the same carries. PT is older but still a year or two from full on retirement mode. I swear, Ingram has one great PS game and now it's over for PT. That's it buddy, out to pasture.

Danno 08-11-2014 01:03 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 603317)
I honestly see them all getting about the same carries. PT is older but still a year or two from full on retirement mode. I swear, Ingram has one great PS game and now it's over for PT. That's it buddy, out to pasture.


Ingram has had more than 1 good game and he's including Khiry Robinson in his justification.

Ingram's last 10 games, 6.35 YPC
Robinson 2013 - 4.35 YPC
Thomas 2013 - 3.7 YPC

billyt81 08-11-2014 02:07 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Dam Danno good job with the stats. That one is pretty telling.

Beastmode 08-11-2014 02:16 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
My point is he still has a big role to play. I would not be surprised if he ends up having the most APY at the end of the season. He is still the screen master.

Beastmode 08-11-2014 04:11 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 603334)
Dam Danno good job with the stats. That one is pretty telling.

So is this one:

Thomas 77 catches
Robinson 0 catches
Ingram 7 catches

Danno 08-11-2014 04:41 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 603344)
So is this one:

Thomas 77 catches
Robinson 0 catches
Ingram 7 catches

No one is saying PT isn't any good.

foreverfan 08-11-2014 05:46 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 603290)
Why? If Ingram/Robinson continue where they left off the last playoffs and the first preseason game, we "need" no one!

Click picture to visit 2013 articular. :doh:


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WHODATINCA 08-11-2014 07:44 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 603299)
He'll be the third down back. Its fine. PT will still get snaps. He prob won't be used to pound the rock like he was used for earlier in his career. I doubt if anyone on this board trusts any other RB on a 3rd down pass or screen play more than they trust PT. Regardless off how Ingram or Khiry are running.

PT will have his moments too. He's still the most versatile back we have.

Absolutely. PT was a huge part of our success last year. He ain't ready for a wheelchair just yet.

saintsfan1976 08-11-2014 08:07 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Have ye learned nothing?

RBs and CBs get hurt. A lot.

rezburna 08-11-2014 08:26 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Let's go Mark. 1,500 yards.

The Dude 08-11-2014 09:27 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 603285)
Thomas is an aging vet, and Payton mentioned he was going to be easier on the vets.

I'm a huge Ingram and Robinson fan, but PT is still the man until you are otherwise informed.:p

Did Payton say that? Could explain why we seem to have so many injuries. Hopefully most are them are really not bad and if the guys were younger they would still be practicing.
Yea I think we know what to expect from PT He is going to get his carries and his screens.

Jamessr 08-12-2014 09:24 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 603301)
We have Robinson and Ingram to pound the rock and take the abuse, lets play smart ball and use PT when he fits the situation... Like the Screen:)

^This...

ScottF 08-12-2014 09:55 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
The headline is a joke.
Is this the same PT that Brees just called the best all-around back in the league? I think I'll go with Brees and call the little layoff preventative

spkb25 08-12-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 603285)
Thomas is an aging vet, and Payton mentioned he was going to be easier on the vets.

I'm a huge Ingram and Robinson fan, but PT is still the man until you are otherwise informed.:p

Yeah man, def. I feel like we know what we are going to get with PT, and I say limit him so we have him the whole season and in the playoffs. PT will be fine. Mark looks like he is putting it together, finally healthy or both. Robinson is quick, I really like that kid. He looks like the real deal. A very good back.

Beastmode 08-12-2014 11:26 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Yep, the headline was a good setup. It made it sound like he was on thin ice and it was just about to crack. The ground is still firm and he will likely have great season. But who is going to read that article?

Crusader 08-12-2014 12:00 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Depth chart schmeptchart. It doesn't matter with the Saints RBs. Each guy fills a role and will get his carries.

Cruize 08-12-2014 12:03 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
PT is a great role player and insurance policy if Ingram or Robinson goes down. But, Ingram and Robinson should get 80-85 percent of the snaps.

Utah_Saint 08-12-2014 12:08 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
I'd guess by the end of he season, PT still has more touches and yards than Ingram or Robinson.

hagan714 08-12-2014 04:17 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Ingram and Robinson moving past PT NO WAY ?????

LMAO now this is a huge surprise. come on were does your third down back fall in SP offense? third.

ScottF 08-12-2014 04:27 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 603481)
Ingram and Robinson moving past PT NO WAY ?????

LMAO now this is a huge surprise. come on were does your third down back fall in SP offense? third.

see what 77 catches, leading the team in rushing (again) and a 2 year extension get you? Apparently 3rd on the depth chart

AllSaints 08-12-2014 04:32 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
I just don't want it to be obvious when PT comes n it's a screen .... Kinda like with sproles when he came in the game it was a pass most of the time...

hagan714 08-12-2014 04:39 PM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 603487)
see what 77 catches, leading the team in rushing (again) and a 2 year extension get you? Apparently 3rd on the depth chart

If PT leads this team in rushing again Ingram is history. pT will lead all backs yet again in receiving yards

dafyaman 08-14-2014 06:07 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 603487)
see what 77 catches, leading the team in rushing (again) and a 2 year extension get you? Apparently 3rd on the depth chart

Well by that same thought process, Ingram has also lead the Saints in rushing. PT was terrible last year running the ball although he was great catching the ball. So, that being said, I figure since he was good catching the ball that is what they will mostly have him do. Since Khiry and Ingram were good pounding the rock that is what they will do mostly. It's pretty simple.

dafyaman 08-14-2014 06:09 AM

Re: Pierre Thomas falling behind Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 603490)
I just don't want it to be obvious when PT comes n it's a screen .... Kinda like with sproles when he came in the game it was a pass most of the time...


It won't because PT can also run the ball as well as catch. PT will get about 5 carries a game to keep the defense honest. I say Ingram and Khiry will split the other 25-30 carries.


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