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The Dude 08-18-2014 10:07 AM

Greer
 
What is the word on him? I know he was cut, but if no one has picked him up and he shows he can still perform do you see it as a possibility we could pick him up later like Predator? I know we are stacked but you can never have too many DBs. He would be a nice cheap option a phone call away if someone like Lewis went down.
I don't expect to much out of Champ as far as starting.

TheOak 08-18-2014 10:10 AM

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With the possibility of carrying a 3rd QB I don't see making room with as much depth as we have.

Euphoria 08-18-2014 10:13 AM

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Yeah, leaves us in a very curious spot.

I don't see us carrying 3 QBs and I don't want to cut Griffin what I have seen so far. But you know someone is going to pick up Luke in our Division to pick his brain about our play book.

papz 08-18-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 604453)
What is the word on him? I know he was cut, but if no one has picked him up and he shows he can still perform do you see it as a possibility we could pick him up later like Predator? I know we are stacked but you can never have too many DBs. He would be a nice cheap option a phone call away if someone like Lewis went down.
I don't expect to much out of Champ as far as starting.

His knee is shot. He may never play another down in the league.

The Dude 08-18-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 604458)
His knee is shot. He may never play another down in the league.

That's what it looked like to me too when it happened. U never know though.

|Mitch| 08-18-2014 10:42 AM

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He's 32 with a very serious knee injury; doubt he'll ever be able to return. And who knows if he even wants to...

rezburna 08-18-2014 10:53 AM

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He's been on ESPN 1st Take. Doubt he has any intention to come back.

Rugby Saint II 08-18-2014 11:07 AM

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Greer played exceptionally and was easily the best corner we have had.

jeanpierre 08-18-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 604469)
Greer played exceptionally and was easily the best corner we have had.

Mike McKenzie? Keenan Lewis?

SaintsBro 08-18-2014 03:22 PM

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I suspect that there are at least a couple of teams who have Greer on their radar and have his # on speed dial, in case somebody else goes down...he could certainly come in a la Mike McKenzie in '09.

But for the time being

(a) Greer is at that age where (like a Favre or DeMarcus Ware type guy) he doesn't really *need* to do training camp anymore -- anything he would learn is just names of stuff he already knows, in the playbook. So any team that wants to pick him up, can do so cheaply later on (well, cheaply meaning vet minimum).

(b) I get the impression (from reading tea leaves and studying the innards of a rooster, LOL) that Greer is certainly interested to come back to the NFL, but he's not exactly out there groveling, or crying or pleading with any old team out there to pick him up and take him. He's had ten great years. He's comfortable. He's pretty much done rehabbing and he's happy. So he doesn't want to go somewhere just for the sake of being on a roster somewhere....if he plays, it will be on his terms, as a contributor to a team, not out of desperation or hanging on to fading glory.

I think the Jets might actually be the ones who take a look at him. They are having real problems at corner right now.

QBREES9 08-18-2014 09:06 PM

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It's not worth it.

The Dude 08-18-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 604536)
It's not worth it.

How would anybody know that? Nobody knows if he can even play let alone how much he would cost. If he can get back to at least 80% and we could get him cheap I would be all for it if the need came up.
He's not going to want to just go anywhere anyway. He would want to go somewhere to get a ring and probably play at the minimum.

|Mitch| 08-18-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 604540)
If he can get back to at least 80% and we could get him cheap I would be all for it if the need came up.

With all the potential talent we have; who would you get rid of to sign Greer at 80%?

Utah_Saint 08-18-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 604540)
How would anybody know that? Nobody knows if he can even play let alone how much he would cost. If he can get back to at least 80% and we could get him cheap I would be all for it if the need came up.
He's not going to want to just go anywhere anyway. He would want to go somewhere to get a ring and probably play at the minimum.

I gotta imagine that if we thought of it on a forum, the coaches have thought about it. I'm sure people know.

The Dude 08-18-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 604536)
It's not worth it.

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 604544)
With all the potential talent we have; who would you get rid of to sign Greer at 80%?

I wouldn't get rid of anyone. Hopefully we wouldn't need him or any other DB out there. I was talking about losing someone to IR. Or 2 somebodies. At that point I imagine some phone calls would be made. Every year we seem to get beat up at a particular position, running back in 2010, then WRs, it does happen.

Jack Vegas 08-18-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 604480)
Mike McKenzie? Keenan Lewis?

Or maybe even Fred Thomas at his 2-3 year peak. It's debatable. Ashley Ambrose in his first stint was really, really good too.

I'd go:

1. Keenan Lewis (assuming he keeps it up for 3-4 more years at least)
2. Mike McKenzie
3. Jabari Greer (his peak was amazing, but it was also very short)
4. Fred Thomas
5. Ashley Ambrose

Honorable mention: Eric Allen, Fred Weary, Vince Buck, Tyronne Drakeford, Tracy Porter

Utah_Saint 08-18-2014 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 604571)
Or maybe even Fred Thomas at his 2-3 year peak.

Yeah, Fred Thomas was a shut down corner for a couple years.

The Dude 08-18-2014 11:39 PM

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I always liked that little safety Kevin Mathis.

|Mitch| 08-18-2014 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 604565)
I wouldn't get rid of anyone. Hopefully we wouldn't need him or any other DB out there. I was talking about losing someone to IR. Or 2 somebodies. At that point I imagine some phone calls would be made. Every year we seem to get beat up at a particular position, running back in 2010, then WRs, it does happen.

You do understand that if you lose a RB or WR to IR in most cases you sign another RB or WR? You don't go signing an aged player for a position of strength when you lose another position... :rolleyes:

rezburna 08-19-2014 12:20 AM

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Our list of best corners are sad. Lol.

jeanpierre 08-19-2014 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 604577)
Our list of best corners are sad. Lol.

You're right about that...But we're getting better...

TheOak 08-19-2014 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 604540)
How would anybody know that? Nobody knows if he can even play let alone how much he would cost. If he can get back to at least 80% and we could get him cheap I would be all for it if the need came up.
He's not going to want to just go anywhere anyway. He would want to go somewhere to get a ring and probably play at the minimum.

You and I may not know what he would cost or what he could do but Loomis does.

I'd rather throw league minimum at a young project than 80% of a 10 year vet.

ScottF 08-19-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 604610)
You and I may not know what he would cost or what he could do but Loomis does.

I'd rather throw league minimum at a young project than 80% of a 10 year vet.

Agreed, but if you are in week 12 and you need someone to come in and make an impact, someone like Greer (or Mackenzie and Bellamy in the past) would be a better short term option.
Of course, when all of our "projects"- Sweeting, SJB, White, etal pan out, we won't have have that problem :}

darstep 08-21-2014 06:41 PM

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His hurdler abilities served him well as he could turn his hips and go with the best receivers.
Also allowed him to make plays on the ball even with a 5' 11" frame.
All went south when the injury bug bit him.
Too much run support will cut many a DB career short.
They are just not built for all that banging.
I believe he could step in if called upon, because he's a playa!
We would have to use that high mileage stuff and drive him gingerly.

homerj07 08-21-2014 08:16 PM

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Don't want to lose an up and coming youngster for a gimpy player. Sorry

The Dude 08-21-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 604610)
You and I may not know what he would cost or what he could do but Loomis does.

I'd rather throw league minimum at a young project than 80% of a 10 year vet.

Good point.

spkb25 08-22-2014 04:34 AM

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Truthfully that is my biggest scare right now, our second CB spot. I mean I hope Champ can get er done, but I have my doubts, and Corey White is not a shut down corner.

I think Greer is done, for good. I am really hoping Robinson can get healthy


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