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WhoDat!656 08-18-2014 10:32 PM

Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
When Mark Ingram said earlier this offseason that he wanted to become an every-down running back for the Saints, he didn’t mean he was working to hone his skills to meet such a skill set this season.

Ingram on Monday explained that he feels he’s already there.

“If you watch our film, I think most teams feel like when I’m in the game, it’s going to be... run or play-action,” said Ingram, a fourth-year pro.

That’s why he wants more opportunities — especially in the passing game.

Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints | Saints | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana


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Jack Vegas 08-18-2014 11:00 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
I don't blame him for feeling that way, especially given his improvement since late last year, but except for 06 it's always been a three-way split at RB. He would have to be Adrian Peterson-level amazing to convince Payton otherwise, and maybe not even then.

The Dude 08-18-2014 11:02 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
He is. Until he gets turf toe.


Seriously though Streif sings his praises and said that his biggest problem was the Oline not doing their job. True or not I think that was a stand up thing for him to say.

jeanpierre 08-19-2014 06:02 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Ingram, put up and UNTIL then shut up...

saintsfan1976 08-19-2014 06:49 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
ZBS you non-believers.

When have you known Streif to be dishonest?

Seer1 08-19-2014 07:16 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
He runs during the season like he's doing right now and I won't argue it.

SmashMouth 08-19-2014 07:19 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
:popcorn:

Danno 08-19-2014 07:39 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 604583)
Ingram, put up and UNTIL then shut up...

Oh good grief you're being ridiculous.

TheOak 08-19-2014 07:41 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
It read it more of him feeling that he is an 'every type of down' back more than an 'every down' back.

Sorry brother, until you can screen like PT, you'll not achieve either option. While you are serviceable at all of the roles, we have specialists and your not the screener PT is, you were not as elusive as Sproles was, and with only 1 season over 11 games there are durability questions. PT only has 2 seasons with less than 14 games, Sproles only had 1 season with less than 14 games.

Frack.... Ivory has had 2 seasons with 12+ games.

Lets get a few more good laps around the neighborhood before you start asking to own the keys.

Danno 08-19-2014 07:44 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 604607)
It read it more of him feeling that he is an 'every type of down' back more than an 'every down' back.

Sorry brother, until you can screen like PT, you'll not achieve either option. While you are serviceable at all of the roles, we have specialists and your not the screener PT is, you were not as elusive as Sproles was, and with only 1 season over 11 games there are durability questions. PT only has 2 seasons with less than 14 games, Sproles only had 1 season with less than 14 games.

Frack.... Ivory has had 2 seasons with 12+ games.

Lets get a few more good laps around the neighborhood before you start asking to own the keys.

Another ridiculous post!

He's not demanding anything, he simply thinks he can do the job. You guys make Falcon fans look classy

TheOak 08-19-2014 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 604609)
Another ridiculous post!

He's not demanding anything, he simply thinks he can do the job. You guys make Falcon fans look classy

Please highlight the word "demand", "demanding", or the mere insinuation of that tone in my post.

If your goal is to tack a ridiculous climate onto a post then using "Falcons" and "class" in the same sentence would do it.

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hitta 08-19-2014 08:14 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Having confidence is important as an athlete, no matter how you spin it. I get so annoyed when someone thinks that an athlete saying that they think they can be great is somehow wrong. The world today, I swear, it doesn't matter what a person does... they are going to be criticized.

10-15 years ago, if someone like Manziel flipped off the other team, nobody would have even given a ****, today its the headline. I hate to think what it'll be like 10 years from now, maybe everytime an athlete says something they'll call congress into session.

TheOak 08-19-2014 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 604616)
Having confidence is important as an athlete, no matter how you spin it. I get so annoyed when someone thinks that an athlete saying that they think they can be great is somehow wrong. The world today, I swear, it doesn't matter what a person does... they are going to be criticized.

10-15 years ago, if someone like Manziel flipped off the other team, nobody would have even given a ****, today its the headline. I hate to think what it'll be like 10 years from now, maybe everytime an athlete says something they'll call congress into session.

On that decade ago comment... Babe Ruth was an alcoholic and wife beater.. So was Mantle, Joe Namath was a show boat. Too much personal life is reported on with professional athletes. Also those with out any blemishes are perceived to be pillars of their community.

I am with you on that.. They are normal people with high paying, high risk jobs.

Danno 08-19-2014 08:34 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Here are the quotes in that article.

Quote:

“If you watch our film, I think most teams feel like when I’m in the game, it’s going to be... run or play-action,” said Ingram,


“I haven’t caught a lot of passes in the NFL, but in high school I played receiver,” Ingram said. “If you look at my (online recruiting profile), it said ‘athlete.’ In college, I caught a lot of passes (60 receptions for 670 yards) and had receiving touchdowns (four in three seasons).”


"I've run the screen a lot when I was in college so I'm real comfortable running the screen," Ingram acknowledged, while also commenting about how much he has learned from Saints screen play extraordinaire Pierre Thomas.

"People can say what they want, think what they want, but sometimes you're just given a role going into a game and sometimes that's not part of it," Ingram said. "You just grow and learn. When you have the opportunity to show you can do it, you take advantage of it."


"I want to do everything," Ingram said. "I want to be involved in the passing game, the running game, picking up pass (protection). I want to be the most versatile player I can be."

Pure crazy talk huh? /sarcasm.

Haters are gonna hate on him no matter what he says.

halloween 65 08-19-2014 08:44 AM

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I think Ingram can and will be a 3 down back. I know we run a (herd) style with our backs but if 1 gets dinged up he will have his chance. When he busts a few 60 yd. TD and racks up a few 100+ yrd. games I will be smiling. Payton just has to run the damn ball. Ingram and Robinson can be the best tandam in the league if Payton sticks with a balanced attack. With the D we have I don't feel we will be blown out of any game and play-action is what we do best.

hagan714 08-19-2014 09:29 AM

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opportunities?

he will get his opportunities

SP has forced opportunities on him since he was drafted and at times at the pulling the hot running back for him to get his opportunities

so far his versatility has not been shown with his opportunities he has been given

why has SP not thrown the ball with all the opportunities?

guess SP is the only person that can answer that given all the opportunities

so he will once again get all the opportunities in the world and SP will call the plays he has faith in him executing.

or till he gets a foot injury again with all these opportunities

Euphoria 08-19-2014 10:02 AM

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I agree SP has forced him opportunities and hasn't been impressive.

Only thing he's sown me is that he is more of a short yardage back. I want him to do more and show more... lets hope.

Danno 08-19-2014 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 604641)
I agree SP has forced him opportunities and hasn't been impressive.

Only thing he's sown me is that he is more of a short yardage back. I want him to do more and show more... lets hope.

I guess leading the team in YPC last year and averaging 5.2 YPC in the playoffs just isn't enough huh?

Ridiculous.

papz 08-19-2014 10:15 AM

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I don't want any player on our team who isn't confident in their abilities. That is all I take away from the article. Whether he can or can't, remains to be seen.

I'm not writing him off as I think he has his best season yet. He'll lead our team in rushing and if he doesn't hit 1,000, I feel that it won't miss it by much. Now with that said, I can certainly understand the skepticism. Some people want to take that wait and see approach, and there's nothing wrong with that as well. People who go by the "Talk is cheap" mantra want to see production... and that's fine. All the young man is doing is showing confidence in himself.

I don't understand what the fuss is about.

Budsdrinker 08-19-2014 11:22 AM

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The biggest problem is Payton's predictability in play calling which Ingram brought up. Friday night on 1st down Ingram came into the game after being on the sideline for 2 series and the first play was a run to him which everyone in the dome knew. Then on 2nd down PT came in at which point I turned to my buddy and said here is a screen pass to PT. Bam there it was. Payton has got to mix these calls up with all the personnel if you expect them to be successful. He is just to predictable with his play calling when certain personnel packages enter the game.

hagan714 08-19-2014 12:51 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
he will once again get his opportunities to prove himself and the cost of drafting him.

i always gave him the out of it is the system

well one year left

lets see what you got

RockyMountainSaint 08-19-2014 04:02 PM

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Contract year......

jeanpierre 08-19-2014 06:19 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 604606)
Oh good grief you're being ridiculous.

Ridiculous is him running his mouth about all that he can do and yet hasn't done anything of note in the three seasons he's been here...

And if we're gonna cite statistics, let's look at total yards from scrimmage per season, rushing yards per season in how long he's been here?!?

Want to see more production and less talking...

When Cooks came out and said he wanted to win Rookie of the Year at the Draft Extravaganza, I rolled my eyes; but, he's backed his game up in the short time he's been on-board...

Ingram hasn't earned the cred to run his mouth and should play and have a cup of STFU until then...

Seer1 08-19-2014 06:24 PM

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I don't know JP. This really could be the year. Love what he's shown us so far this preseason.

Danno 08-19-2014 06:31 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 604704)
Ridiculous is him running his mouth about all that he can do and yet hasn't done anything of note in the three seasons he's been here...

And if we're gonna cite statistics, let's look at total yards from scrimmage per season, rushing yards per season in how long he's been here?!?

Want to see more production and less talking...

When Cooks came out and said he wanted to win Rookie of the Year at the Draft Extravaganza, I rolled my eyes; but, he's backed his game up in the short time he's been on-board...

Ingram hasn't earned the cred to run his mouth and should play and have a cup of STFU until then...

Doubling down on ridiculous.
He isn't "running his mouth".
You're being an ass, grow up.

jeanpierre 08-19-2014 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 604711)
Doubling down on ridiculous.
He isn't "running his mouth".
You're being an ass, grow up.

Glad to see the blind Bama pride coming through...

jnormand 08-19-2014 11:38 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
I really didn't read it as running his mouth. It seems to me that he is saying he wants to be an every down back and thinks he is capable. In all reality I feel like he's really come on as of late. I don't see any back we have that's had a serious chance to run the ball consistently over the last couple years.

I'm not a Bama guy. I actually don't follow college ball very closely. Mostly NFL.

I'd like to see him run angry like he did last season at the end of the year. I like it.

MatthewT 08-20-2014 07:22 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
I am still a Mark Ingram believer. If the Saints can get him 20 carries per game on a regular basis he should be pretty awesome. What I am not certain about is if he can handle it on a regular basis. Remember that the Saints drafted him high for a reason, and I doubt it was to be a roll type of specialist.

homerj07 08-20-2014 05:45 PM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
I don't care who runs the ball as long as they do it well and don't fumble.

billyt81 08-22-2014 02:43 AM

Re: Mark Ingram thinks he is an every-down running back for the Saints
 
He's never looked comfortable catching the ball to me. I'd love to see this change and see Ingram make 30+ catches this year. It'd surely help keep the defense offguard when he's in.


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