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Re: RB by committee or RB by play?

nah it is RB by play call

for the past few years the saints have been stuck to this ideology and might just might have some back develop their all around play were SP might stick with hot back. not getting my hopes up on that last one just yet.

PT is still shoulder and head above all the other backs in the passing game and protection. that gap needs to narrow even more.

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Two first round draft picks for a role player is kind of expensive. Just sayin'.

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 605906)

Two first round draft picks for a role player is kind of expensive. Just sayin'.

At this point you write it off as a sunk cost. Do you add insult to injury and try and make something of the situation that it is not? Personally I do not, I use it for what it is actually good for or I get rid of it.... which applies to everything in my garage.

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I am on record many times as not being a fan of the 1 play per RB rotation. Replace them situationally or when Ingram or Robinson raises their hand to come out.

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 605795)

I am a big believer in a primary back, and then roll backs. Part of the issue with the Saints is they currently do not have a proven primary back. Lets be honest, Deuce has never been replaced, he could do it all, with Reggie Bush being that change of pace and home run guy. Ingram was drafted with the intention of being that primary back, but for whatever reason that hasn't panned out, so thus we see the committee.

The problem with this assessment is that we have the last 7 years of Sean Payton's offense that is contrary to this. Deuce was the last back to gain over 1000 yards and to have over 200 carries. If having a primary back was really Payton's priority, he's had multiple opportunities to create that role (Thomas, Bell, Ivory, Ingram, Robinson, even Bush). In the last 7 years the distribution of carries over multiple backs has been deliberate.

It may change this year, but I doubt it. Payton will likely split carries among Ingram, Robinson, Thomas, and Cadet. Not because none of them are capable of being the primary back, but because it is specifically how he has designed his offense to function.

SFIAH

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 605958)

I am on record many times as not being a fan of the 1 play per RB rotation. Replace them situationally or when Ingram or Robinson raises their hand to come out.

I get it that many people feel that way. Which way is optimal to give each play its own independent chance to succeed?

If you make it situational then you tip your hand and after watching a few games on tape, and Defenses know who does what.

If you make it bulk rotation then you end up with a limited possession based on personnel on the field. You also don't want to have PT grind out a bunch of short yardage and when he gets tired you see an opportunity for a screen but he is worn out. Yes you can get a screen out of Ingram or Khiry.. But it is not going to be a PT screen.

Rotating them as Payton does keeps everyone guessing, while keeping all of them as fresh as possible, and still gives some diversity to the possession.

Sean Payton has proven to me that he generally has a method to his madness.

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Plus it's preseason. I really believe the coaches are trying out as many people in as many formations as they can.