Saints' defense: 'That's not who we are'
 

If the Browns get anywhere near mid-field at any point Sunday I will still be calling our defense bums!

The defense will probably make Hoyer look like the 2nd coming of Montana, Aikman, Elway, Young, Brady ...

Considering how poorly the Saints play against teams with a rookie or 2nd string it is surprising that teams don't start them when playing the Saints.

Saints' defense: 'That's not who we are' - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

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Talk is cheap

I visibly saw Cam Jordan and Junior galette give up on the pass rush whilst Ryan still had the ball in his hands in the pocket, galette just stopped running altogether

Plenty of press coverage is needed, let kenny vac play multiple spots like he did last year and for god sake bring jairus Byrd ten yards forward

Upfront lost the battle, falcons were getting about 8 yards a run, for the love of god - STOP putting Hawthorne on a speedy WR!!! it doesn't work!!!

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Got news for 'em. That's exactly who they are until they are someone (or something) else.

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Do the same crap against the Browns Sunday and they can save the next ESPN reporter some time and he can just change the dateline on this story to next week.

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That is who you are, until you show that you're not.

568 yards of total offense given up. You sucked after the 1st 400, the last 168 was gravy.

Worst defense in the entire N F L.

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LOL, stat of the week...

We gave up 400 MORE yards than the New York Jets.

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Then be somebody different and clean up your act.

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I still can't believe it and my eyes saw it. It hurt, bad!! Words cannot explain how sick our D made me feel.

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And the most amazing part of it all is that as bad as the Saints defense was Sunday, it took OVERTIME for the failclowns to finally win!

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Worst D doesn't mean much if you win. Hell, if you win 10 games with a crappy D it does not matter. If he missed that FG so what. It's not like they blew us away. Their D also sucks and I'm willing to bet by the end of the season the tables will have fully turned. I will go ahead and proclaim it right now. Falcons will have a horrible D, much worst than the Saints come week 16.

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If our defense does this against the Brown's we have better be prepared for a looooong season. Still they did almost come back to beat the Steelers from a pretty big deficit. So yea I can't say I'm completely confident in our defense stopping them. I am however confident our offense will bail them out once again.

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After watching the Cardinals D and the Chargers D play really good D I believe the words I have been looking for is undiciplined, our D played without dicipline, we have many talented players on our D that looked lost yesterday. Seattle, San. Fran., Cards. for example play decipline football, why can't we. I really and truely don't have a clue why we can't but until we do start playing that way we just might be in for another rollercoaster ride.We should have beat the crap out of Atlanta yesterday in my opinion but failed totally on the defensive side miserably, this is a hard 1 to swallow for me because I know they can play so much better than they did.

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as another post pointed out after last years bye week the defense yielded more points per game than before. why? tape is out there and offenses have spent time picking Robs defense apart. now it is Rob turn to readjust.

if the front 3 or 4 does not get it done we are hurting.

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I seen the snap count & the reason our defense played poorly was cause they were gas out. Totally def line coach fault. Why didn't he rotate those guys.

New Orleans Saints' Pierre Thomas receives most snaps among running backs in Atlanta loss | NOLA.com

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why? because we added a ton of safeties and OLBs in the off season. ILB and the DL were not addressed. plus i have been asking the same question since the middle of last year. those back ups do not look that bad anyways when they get a chance to play. It might be the old "Play the marquee players" mentality.

I still say JR can not handle the work load. when he is gassed, he becomes a blocking dummy. he is a speed guy. at the end of a game you would think you would want his legs as fresh as possible.

it is not his fault. that is all coaching and off season moves.

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Vaccaro 72 snaps. Played every snap on defense. Byrd substituted only twice. The only rotation that was suitable was defense tackle, if you want get pressure to the qb you have to rotate JG & CJ. They had Foster & Edabali to help fill in; need to used them

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I hope not, because otherwise we are in for a disappointing season.

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You can get those stats to believe anything you want to believe.

If you don't stop them and force them to punt yes the are going to be high snap counts duh. you get more 3 and outs there won't be a high snap count plain and simple.

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Do you agree in the first half the defense was up to par? If you go back to last year and you will see; players were rotated in & out, let 'em catch their wind or you will continue to see the defense non-responsive in the second half.
Kenny vaccaro never played such poorly but he playing all snaps on defense & a few more snaps on special team how do you expect him to attack the runner when he gas out. You have Bush and Sunseri with less than half of the snaps KV combine and they normally start defense with 3 safeties.

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Stats? This is not stats, this is repetitions and you have to distribute them by awareness of your players condition. You can't expect a player to run 50 yards down field full throttle on ST then constantly fill the hole or gaps full speed taking on 230 lb rb and then covering wr with 4.3 speed (Speaking about KV) 72 snaps 1st game of the season. It's easy to say 3 in and 3 out but if don't happen as a coach you have to conserve that player energy or that player body going to conserve it for you

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Our DB's get broken down most every season.
Our two hundred pound guys can't lead the tackle stats and thrive at their positions.
We do need their help in run support but they can't handle the lion's share.
It robs them of their ability to cover late in games and their durability late in seasons.
The front seven doing their jobs well, helps the DB's tremendously.
They are not built for banging ALL afternoon.
After so much they start making business decisions when that bruiser breaks through the line...
AGAIN!

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It is who they are. Missed tackles were atrocious, especially in the 2nd half. Missed tackles in the 2nd half is a symptom of bad conditioning and the rotation of the D-Line was suspect in the 1st and 2nd half.

The defense will get better as they get used to playing 60 minutes plus. It better happen quick...0-2 is a bad hole when you're already 0-1 in the division and 0-1 in the NFC.

Y'all can laugh at the Cleveland offense all you want, but if they are overlooked, we will be embarrassed in the Factory of Sadness this Sunday.

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+1. I hear you Barry.. after watching that Saints D last week, you will get very little argument from me. They need to prove us wrong.

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I agree with them

Its not uncommon for teams to have a bad game. That doesn't mean they're gonna look that bad for 16 games.

If Drew looked crappy in the 1st game of the season, would you say thats who his is? A crappy QB?

Sometimes you lay an egg. I do not for 1 second believe this defense is going to give up 600 yards per game all season season. Thats ridiculous.

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I agree with you on everything you just said, but we don't have a lb. core to make a complete front 7, why we don't I can't say, it's been a strong point for Ryan for many years, but not now. A strong lb. core would make us extreamly stout.

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"not who we are" ........PROVE IT!
Give us a reason to brag about our defense next week. I need to get this bad taste out of my mouth from last Sunday.

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