Clock management at end of regualtion
 

I understand fans are upset, mainly because Colston & Ingram went out of bounds on consecutive plays, but to me getting the TD is more important than the clock.

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It is, no doubt.Bbut when you're playing a team that is shredding your defense the clock has to be on your mind too. Remember SF in that playoff game? When our defense isn't getting the job done, we have to milk the clock. As soon as we scored I was thinking, uh oh, this is SF all over again. Its a long season but we have some work to do.
HEY ROB, GET HOT!!!

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We had THREE timeouts

They go down in bounds with 1:30 left and Atlanta has to burn two timeouts
We leave them with at least 20 seconds less on the clock

If we needed the clock, we had the timeouts
No way to get in trouble

Bad clock management


End of the first half too
Cost us 3

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we were down by 4 not 3. huge difference. down by three you can play games. by 4? you gotta score

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Also, the D should never have allowed them to get to the FG distance. But, I have to admit I was half expecting the outcome that took place when I saw how much the O left on the clock.

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It got quiet didn't it Hagen?

On our final possession in the 4th Qtr of regulation we were down by 4 points.

The drive was 4 passes and 5 runs with an Ingram TD @ 1:24 left on the clock.

On our last possession before the 1/2 we kicked a field goal with 00:24 left on the clock.

You can manage a clock but you cant micro manage it. You cant decide before a drive that we are going to move the ball 70 yards in 2:31. You have to first get to where you need to be for a FG if you need 3 then you can burn time; or if you need a TD you focus on getting that TD first then worry about the clock.

If the New Orleans Saints or any team could score at will like some assume they would be repeat Super Bowl winners.

Anyone want to do their own research the play-by-play as at the bottom.
New Orleans Saints at Atlanta Falcons - September 7th, 2014 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

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And just as absurd, one could claim that we just didn't score fast enough. If we had scored 45 seconds faster we probably get the ball back in time to kick a FG and win in regulation.

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4 passes and 5 runs on a drive and the talking point is 'pass heavy as usual'.

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Yeah, that surprised me, that both Ingram and Colston went outta bounds. I would've thought in the huddle someone would have been telling everyone to stay in bounds to force Atlanta to burn their timeouts.

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Do we all know the difference between pushed and ran out of bounds?

The NFL does
Watch New Orleans Saints vs. Atlanta Falcons [09/07/2014] - NFL.com

2:33) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short right to 80-L.Toilolo ran ob at NO 40 for 6 yards (57-D.Hawthorne)

4th qtr
(1:44) 22-M.Ingram left end pushed ob at ATL 5 for 7 yards (23-R.Alford).
(1:49) (Shotgun) 9-D.Brees pass short left to 12-M.Colston pushed ob at ATL 12 for 13 yards (27-R.McClain).

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and if we hadn't taken a loss on the first running play, maybe different calls are made.

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Both are equally important. But they called the series like you wanted and what happened? We lost.

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No way our D would have got us the ball back.

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Atlanta kicked the ball with 4 seconds left, add 45 seconds to that and we'd have a shot at a FG!:p

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Problem with that theory is that I am going to give Atlanta credit for knowing hot to manage the clock better than we did and not give us that time on the clock.

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and it was from over 50 yards, not a given. We just had a unfortunate mistake at the wrong time that cost us, bad luck.

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The one unfortunate mistake was sending our Defense to Atlanta.

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The problem with your theory about the problem with my theory is that we still had all 3 of our timeouts left.

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We could have used them as we ran down the clock some earlier in the drive.

Running run plays in the mid field area take a minute off the clock and then proceed to score.

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My other point is this...

We have definitive proof what happens when you don't worry about the clock and score the TD quickly. The other team has time to score and win the game - They did win the last I checked.

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You make your own luck. :cool:

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Last I checked they were trying to score a TD. TD's aren't guaranteed. You score them when you can.

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Exactly what I thought, I think the running out of bounds could have been handled better seen as we had 3 timeouts, but you get a TD when you can, there would have been a larger uproar if we took time off the clock and failed to get a TD anyway

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Its called time management for a reason... you manage the times and downs. You don't have to run a play in 8 seconds you can run a play in 20. They run these drills all the time there are 3 minute offense just like they do when they run a 2 minute offense.

I see other teams deploy this all the time.

You get close you slow down your roll a little bit. Then it comes down to taking the shots at the end zone and using the time outs accordingly.

I know you guys aren't that dumb. C'mon.

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Agreed, and likely by the same people.

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I don't believe the Saints were worried about the time on clock, especially since they had 3 timeouts left.

There is a ton of difference in needing a FG to tie or win and needing a TD.

I guarantee you there wasn't a Saints player, coach or fan that thought that after the Saints scored the go ahead TD that the defense wasn't going to stop the failclowns.

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I think Sean was well aware of his options on the last drive and well aware of the clock. Part of the success of the offense is quickly coming out of the huddle into formation and snapping the ball before the defense can adjust or swap personnel. I think Sean's focus was scoring at any opportunity and then see if the defense could stop Atl from going 55 yds to be in position to kick a game winner. I think he fully expected the defense to come up big when it counted and force Ryan to make a mistake. Our defense gave up huge chunks of real estate and Ryan was on fire and our secondary got shredded.
Furthermore, I think Sean should expect his defense to rise to such occasions. Frankly, the offense did their part on the last drive to put us ahead, the defense should have gotten the stop.

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The clock was not an issue in regards to the Saints scoring. The issue was not managing the clock more wisely which allowed the Falcons enough time to tie the game. Payton has never been good at it and has always wasted alot of timeouts and challenges.

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By that logic, the pickles on my burger caused the lady parked next to me to hit my truck with her door.

A lot went on between our score and their victory. Two possessions by Atlanta, a possession by the Saints, a fumble.

Everyone remember the clock hitting 00:00 and the game tied? Difficult to convince a rational person that clock management caused a loss in a game that was tied at the end of regulation. One could however quite easily come to the conclusion that defense allowed them to catch up, and a fumble in OT put them in position to win with e FG...

Clock management however isn't a root cause.

Somehow a football team can score too fast but in highschool with a date in the back seat there was no such thing.

You get it when you can get it, cause if you miss it, you cant get it back.:bng: