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papz 09-12-2014 06:53 AM

Teammates not concerned over Ingram outbursts
 
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Saints tight end Benjamin Watson on Thursday afternoon downplayed Mark Ingram’s sideline theatrics during Week 1’s season-opening loss at Atlanta, saying it’s part of what occurs on NFL sidelines — albeit more on some teams than others.

“We all get hot-headed and we all get upset during a game,” said Watson, who was one of several Saints that tried to calm or console Ingram, likely upset about his role at that point in Sunday’s game.

“If you were to see the sidelines, what we do and hear what’s going on, it’s a circus. Then 10 minutes after the game, everything is kind of left out. There’s no grudges held. Guys apologize: ‘Man, I can’t believe I said that to you. I was totally out of my mind.’ ”

Ingram was the former, standing about 20 feet away from other teammates, by himself.

He then exploded in the second half for 42 of his 60 yards, including two touchdown runs of 3 yards. The second score, with 1:20 left in regulation, gave the Saints a 34-31 lead.

Ingram is in the final season of his rookie contract, with plans to finally enjoy the kind of rushing campaign he hoped as a former Heisman Trophy winner out of the University of Alabama. Carries, though, are still shared between Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Pierre Thomas and Travaris Cadet.

Against Atlanta, Ingram posted 13 of the running backs’ 26 carries.

“We’re in this together and it’s our job to pick each other up when we’re down,” Watson said, “and bring each other down a little bit when we get too high.”


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hagan714 09-12-2014 07:04 AM

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i may not care for it but if he wants to fall on the turf and roll around like a 3 years and have tantrum and that makes him play better than so be it. whatever it takes. have it.

in the end it will all come down to the numbers. yards produced and the amount of the numbers on that pay check.

cry whine or pout. just help the team win.

K Major 09-12-2014 07:18 AM

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Roll tide wants to help this team WIN more than anyone. Kind of hard to do when we turn into the 85 Houston Gamblers with our pass happy offense. Gotta 'ground and pound' to win in January/February.

I can somewhat understand his frustration.

dizzle88 09-12-2014 07:46 AM

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We got away from the run for quite a while, I don't blame Ingram for being frustrated, especially after how he ran in the second half

If he can tally those sort of numbers every week we'd be looking at the first 1000 yard rusher since deuce, feed him the ball, he is playing very well so far

papz 09-12-2014 08:14 AM

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http://espn.go.com/i/abcsports/mnf/1...a_brooks_i.jpg

Danno 09-12-2014 08:21 AM

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Its called passion and fire. I'll take it all day long as long as it doesn't become Dez Bryant like destructive.

And as Papz just posted, its better than sulking and/or smiling after adversity.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...wh4IMnHAkjcm0A

Cruize 09-12-2014 09:42 AM

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Feed the man. He will explode or prove he can't handle the load. Problem solved. He looks good to me.

jnormand 09-12-2014 10:41 AM

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When he's pissed off, he runs like a lunatic. Hell yeah. Feed the Monster.

Seer1 09-12-2014 11:13 AM

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Can he tackle?

Saintsfan4ever 09-12-2014 11:35 AM

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sideline theatrics? my TV reception went out during the Saints last regulation drive. I have no idea what he did.. or said.
Can someone tell me what happened please?

TheOak 09-12-2014 12:08 PM

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What would make a reporter ask Watson about Mark Ingram's outbursts of frustration on the heels of Colston slamming his helmet to the ground on national TV in over time.

Not that Colston should have been asked instead, more along the lines of why single out Ingram and how is the answer to the question not obvious?

dizzle88 09-12-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever (Post 610079)
sideline theatrics? my TV reception went out during the Saints last regulation drive. I have no idea what he did.. or said.
Can someone tell me what happened please?

The cameras never showed it but supposedly he was seen shouting on the sideline early in the 3rd quarter and then rejected a handshake from Sean Payton after his first TD

They said there was no sign of trouble between he and SP though as they high fived each other after Ingram's second TD

TheOak 09-12-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 610085)
The cameras never showed it but supposedly he was seen shouting on the sideline early in the 3rd quarter and then rejected a handshake from Sean Payton after his first TD

They said there was no sign of trouble between he and SP though as they high fived each other after Ingram's second TD

Ahhhh.. Didnt see or hear about that.

How Dez Bryant of Ingram to act that way.

dizzle88 09-12-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 610087)
Ahhhh.. Didnt see or hear about that.

How Dez Bryant of Ingram to act that way.

General consensus is he was shouting about the lack of touches, it did seem we got away from the running game and then started going 3 and out

I've got nothing against Ingram being passionate because I love the way he's running right now, as long as it doesn't cause negativity in the locker room.

Danno 09-12-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 610085)
The cameras never showed it but supposedly he was seen shouting on the sideline early in the 3rd quarter and then rejected a handshake from Sean Payton after his first TD

They said there was no sign of trouble between he and SP though as they high fived each other after Ingram's second TD

Where did you read that?

dizzle88 09-12-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 610096)
Where did you read that?

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Atlanta -- New Orleans Saints running back Mark Ingram had a fiery, helmet-slamming outburst on the sideline Sunday, and later appeared to decline a post-touchdown handshake from coach Sean Payton.

Ingram scored two touchdowns in the Saints' 37-34 overtime loss to the Atlanta Falcons. He left the locker room before reporters could approach him to ask for comment.

Payton said after the game that he was unaware of any sideline outburst by Ingram.

Early in the third quarter, Ingram was seen on the sideline yelling and slamming his helmet. Tight end Ben Watson attempted to calm him down. Ingram spent several minutes alone on the sideline, pacing


New Orleans Saints' Mark Ingram seethes on sideline, then scores two TDs | NOLA.com

TheOak 09-12-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 610089)
General consensus is he was shouting about the lack of touches, it did seem we got away from the running game and then started going 3 and out

I've got nothing against Ingram being passionate because I love the way he's running right now, as long as it doesn't cause negativity in the locker room.

Bryant threw his tantrum over touches as well. It wasn't analogy.. LOL:bng:

Frustration over not preforming is normal. Throwing a fit over not getting his way is a different story. I do not condone that with my children, so I am certainly not going to condone it for a grown man.

Danno 09-12-2014 01:03 PM

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Payton said after the game that he was unaware of any sideline outburst by Ingram.
Sounds like speculation to me.

dizzle88 09-12-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 610102)
Sounds like speculation to me.

You may be right, but it wouldn't be the first time Payton has distorted the truth to make sure a story doesn't get drawn up

E.g saying victor butlers injury wasn't serious, roughly two hours before he was put on IR

B_Dub_Saint 09-12-2014 01:33 PM

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If we want to win it all, we have to stick to the run, plain and simple. O yea and play D.

jnormand 09-12-2014 04:01 PM

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If Payton gives him the opportunity to play with heavy doses of touches, he better deliver. Or that little plan will go out out the window.

I think he can make Sean a believer if he keeps running the ball like he has been.

Of course maybe Sean just wants to piss him off then put him in the game. Lol.

Choupique 09-12-2014 04:28 PM

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i'd be worried if they didn't act like "Type A" critters.

joker-saint 09-12-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 610043)

Lol, what ever happened to Aaron Brooks?

Rugby Saint II 09-12-2014 06:14 PM

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Ingram is being poorly used in this scheme. He needs the touches and Payton just isn't going to give them to him. I don't think that Ingram will be back next year regardless of how well he plays. I don't think New Orleans is the right fit for him.

Unfortunately Ingram is not the same person I thought he was at Alabama. He has a thug like mentality. And as I've said a dozen times I like my athletes to be humble like Coloston and Drew.

halloween 65 09-12-2014 09:33 PM

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I wish he would have gotten more touches along with PT and Robinson, Cadet just don't have it, to predictable when Cadet is in. 3 backs make it a lot less predictable and Payton needs to keep feeding the ball to the hot hand anyway, he is a great coach but sometimes he's to smart for his own good.

Saintsfan4ever 09-12-2014 09:37 PM

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Maybe Ingram was throwing his helmet for the same reason I was throwing my remote .... the D ... or lack there of

jeanpierre 09-12-2014 10:17 PM

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Well, if he's that unhappy, he'll probably sign elsewhere come free agency...

Ashley 09-13-2014 09:35 AM

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I just can't see any back getting the touches they need in a game. It hasn't happened since Deuce

gulfgambler 09-13-2014 01:37 PM

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This pic probably occurred after 3 picks and the Saints down 27-3......lol

UK_WhoDat 09-13-2014 07:29 PM

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I like passion, I like desire (to do well).
(Now I didn't see the incident however) I do not like "passion"/"desire" if it could be destructive to the bass or the team.
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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 610094)
.....i felt they would have won the game if they rushed for 200+ yrds.

Well that would probably be true.

billyt81 09-15-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 610034)
Roll tide wants to help this team WIN more than anyone. Kind of hard to do when we turn into the 85 Houston Gamblers with our pass happy offense. Gotta 'ground and pound' to win in January/February.

I can somewhat understand his frustration.

Houston Gamblers? Who was their QB? Was it Moon or Hebert? As far as his so called outbursts are concerned, I like seeing Ingram pacing the sidelines like a ferocious Incredible Hulk. I wish Jimmy Graham would play angry like that.

Barry from MS 09-15-2014 09:20 PM

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Ingram is under-utilized for his talent-set and about to come into free agency for potentially big money but not getting the touches to prove his worth. Subbing every other play even after 10+ yard runs...I'd be pissed, too.

K Major 09-15-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 611467)
Houston Gamblers? Who was their QB? Was it Moon or Hebert?

Jim Kelly.

Known as the "run and shoot" of the USFL during the mid 80's. I reference that team because at times it appears all we do is pass, pass, pass and run as the last resort.


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