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Barry from MS 09-14-2014 09:07 PM

You Like Numbers?
 
Record: 0-2. Turnovers: -3 (though 1 turnover was in desperation at the end of the game)

@ ATL: Saint 1 (ONE)/Atlanta 2 (TWO) with one in overtime on our own side of the field
@ CLE: Saints 0 (ZERO)/Cleveland 2 (TWO) with one a Pick 6 in a 26-24 game.

Lose the turnover battle on the road, you are asking to get beat. Wondering why we're 0-2 and getting beat by last second FGs? It is the inability to force turnovers and our tendency to turning the ball over on the road.

This is a pretty telling stat, and one cannot deny that these 2 things are why talented teams get beat by last second FGs on the road to inferior teams. The sole reason? Of course not, but it ain't gonna help matters none.

But can we really call them inferior teams at this time? Both are 1-1. We are 0-2.

arsaint 09-14-2014 09:29 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Yes, I love numbers but not those. They SUCK

Rsanders24 09-14-2014 09:34 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
It's hard to create turnovers when you playing soft and scared.

Rugby Saint II 09-15-2014 02:56 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Yes. I like numbers. Gotta' light? :beatnik:

Barry from MS 09-15-2014 04:16 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 611517)
Yes. I like numbers. Gotta' light? :beatnik:

Good Lord...please leave my post alone with your sleezy, disgusting come-ons. I'm not that kind of dude.

In related news, what is a guy like you doing in a post like this?:cheers:

QBREES9 09-16-2014 12:47 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
With dollars signs in front of them.

foreverfan 09-16-2014 01:52 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 611233)
Record: 0-2. Turnovers: -3 (though 1 turnover was in desperation at the end of the game)

@ ATL: Saint 1 (ONE)/Atlanta 2 (TWO) with one in overtime on our own side of the field
@ CLE: Saints 0 (ZERO)/Cleveland 2 (TWO) with one a Pick 6 in a 26-24 game.

Lose the turnover battle on the road, you are asking to get beat. Wondering why we're 0-2 and getting beat by last second FGs? It is the inability to force turnovers and our tendency to turning the ball over on the road.

This is a pretty telling stat, and one cannot deny that these 2 things are why talented teams get beat by last second FGs on the road to inferior teams. The sole reason? Of course not, but it ain't gonna help matters none.

But can we really call them inferior teams at this time? Both are 1-1. We are 0-2.

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AlaskaSaints 09-16-2014 03:10 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Do I like the numbers? I don't know, but Drew does... He's had, what... 5 kids since scoring 100,000,000.oo?

saintsfan1976 09-16-2014 06:52 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
I've got a number for you - 14. As in games left to play.

How about 1. As in number of division games played.


Yes we've seen some ugly football but it's going to take more for me to give up

TheOak 09-16-2014 07:11 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 611233)
Record: 0-2. Turnovers: -3 (though 1 turnover was in desperation at the end of the game)

@ ATL: Saint 1 (ONE)/Atlanta 2 (TWO) with one in overtime on our own side of the field
@ CLE: Saints 0 (ZERO)/Cleveland 2 (TWO) with one a Pick 6 in a 26-24 game.

Lose the turnover battle on the road, you are asking to get beat. Wondering why we're 0-2 and getting beat by last second FGs? It is the inability to force turnovers and our tendency to turning the ball over on the road.

This is a pretty telling stat, and one cannot deny that these 2 things are why talented teams get beat by last second FGs on the road to inferior teams. The sole reason? Of course not, but it ain't gonna help matters none.

But can we really call them inferior teams at this time? Both are 1-1. We are 0-2.

2 games is too small of a sample size.
We are not scoring 17 points/game needing turnovers for more points. Turnovers has very little to do with allowing 32 points/game.

Mardigras9 09-16-2014 08:48 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
If we win all home games and split the remaining road games, we still end up 11-5 and in the post-season. And outside of carolina (totally surprised and still undecided about them so far), I don't think any NFC team is going to do much better than that.
We are scoring more points per game than any team in the league and on the road at that. If the D tightens up, it's all good.

TheOak 09-16-2014 08:56 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
New England Patriots +5 in turnovers
Pittsburgh Steelers -4 in turnovers

Both teams 1-1

Barry from MS 09-16-2014 09:44 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
NE: 2 Road games...loss @ a good MIA team and were +1 and win @ a Peterson-less MIN team w/Cassell's 4 INTs.

PIT: 1 Home/1 Away...@ BAL with -3 in a blowout 26-6 loss and home vs CLE with -1 and a last minute FG to win.

Us?

@ ATL -- End Zone INT plus fumble at our own 35-ish yard line in Overtime. Lose by 3 w/FG in overtime. 6-10 point swing on 2 plays.

@ CLE -- Pick 6 in a 2 point loss and we forced ZERO turnovers.

I'll clarify then...inopportune turnovers are beating us on the road in close games. Those 3 aforementioned turnovers hold way more weight than a INT w/o a significant return around midfield in the 2nd quarter and we're up by 10-14 points against a team with a subpar defense. Make sense?

WHODATINCA 09-18-2014 05:59 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Number of key players lost by our upcoming opponents -- 2. If our opponents keep losing their best players to character flaws and resulting prison terms -- this season could become a cake walk.

Mostly kidding -- but -- at this point all good news is relevant.

lee909 09-18-2014 06:45 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
I'll give you a good number

Since Terron Armstead took over at LT from Charles Brown in week 16 (6 games) the Saints have averaged 138ypg in rushing. That includes games against Panthers, Seahawks, Tampa and the eagles. All of whom had a top 15 run defense

Ashley 09-18-2014 08:24 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 611243)
It's hard to create turnovers when you playing soft and scared.

or looking lost and not knowing who you have to cover

ScottF 09-18-2014 08:34 AM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Bad numbers:
ATL 47 yards in 1:10 to tie
Clev 85 yards in 2:30 to kick winning FG

and for good measure, 58 yards in 16 seconds at the end of the first half vs ATl for a 'meaningless' FG

halloween 65 09-18-2014 01:13 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
The # I want to see Sunday.1 in the win column. Then we go from there.

Barry from MS 09-18-2014 04:49 PM

Re: You Like Numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 612326)
I'll give you a good number

Since Terron Armstead took over at LT from Charles Brown in week 16 (6 games) the Saints have averaged 138ypg in rushing. That includes games against Panthers, Seahawks, Tampa and the eagles. All of whom had a top 15 run defense

Dad gum it...great call. Freakin' awesome post, bro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 612380)
The # I want to see Sunday.1 in the win column. Then we go from there.

I do believe that is the only number that matters.

Mathematicians UNITE!


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