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I don't get it. The D didn't play lights out -- but WTF -- what about the O-Line? Hello? Payton should STFU and RR should tell him so.

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647 yards of passing, 235 yards rushing, and 63 points allowed in 2 games and your reference point is 'lights out defense'?

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What about the play calling? Defensively and offensively, yeah Ryan needs to fix some things but so does Payton. And Patrick Robinson needs to decorate the bench. That's all I have.

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Some key mistakes were definitely made by the offense, but it's pretty clear that 90% of the reason we're 0-2 is because of a ridiculously porous defense.

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I am the head coach and our D is playing like they are I will be yelling at the DC myself.

This isn't on the offense.

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Exactly 58 points scored by the Offense, Coach knows where the problem is.

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You should never lose a game when your average score is 29 per game.

Unless, of course, you're giving up 31.5 a game. That utterly sucks.

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Cam Jordan, Junior Gallete, Jarius Byrd, Kenny Vaccaro back healthy. Such enormous expectations for an improved defense dashed on the rocks of the Dirty Birds and Browns--the BROWNS!!!!!!. The team is fat and lazy from years of winning. Now for a reality check.

Right now the defense SUCKS. Drew Brees is not playing well.

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Bree's is ranked 4th in passing... that isn't 'not playing well'.

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I agree with everything you said except the Brees part.

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The interception yesterday went right through Grahams hands, I don' t see how that can be all Drew's fault. Yes the ball was high, but Graham should have made that catch

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Brees was holding on to the ball too long, idk if that was his fault or the wr but I do know Sean Payton could call more running plays or whom ever the OC.

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Payton says, "we do this every game, it's normal," but the question I have is, is it really normal or not? And when you get into butting heads with Sean Payton, I mean really get into it, my next question is do you ever really come back from something like that.

I mean, the road is littered with carcasses of people who have argued with Payton or ticked him off, and they get thrown off the train. Once you become dead to him, you're dead to him, it's like you are invisible -- and the next year they are usually gone. I'm not saying that this yesterday is a case of THAT, but I guess we'll have to see.

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When Brees (or any other QB) is under that kind of pressure, he is mortal.

The first INT was about a foot off from perfect, and the Graham ball was catchable. The 0-2 start is not on Brees.

Looked like Payton told P-Rob to get his head out of his ass after the FG offside, obviously he didn't listen.

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Whenever Payton is afraid that he will lose he consistently goes to Ryan and chews his arse.

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The Vikings offense is going to destroy us

I'm one more loss away from cancelling the days I had booked off to watch the night games, not worth staying up to get disappointed over and over

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The offensive line is doing a much better job than they were last season. Especially in run support.

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And good, Ryan needed his ass chewed. The defense is pathetic

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And yes if we lose at home to the Vikings its over. Time to start talking draft order and coaching changes.

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Except we don't have anyone else to put out there. Greer appears to have been that important.

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Hey, its not like you're a Newcastle fan....

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Aw.... it happens every week.

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Meanwhile, back at "Gumbo Palace" on Bourbon, Rob Ryan buys another round for the bar. He loves "N'awlins'" you know...

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How the HELL do you figure Drew is not playing well?

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The only thing I can fault Drew on is holding the ball too long. It's not like last year if the wr weren't open throw it to Sproles

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hahahahaha

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Everyone is so disappointed here in NO and other fans elsewhere. I'm not sure if our expectations for this team were very realistic. Most things looked like we were going to be better. Other teams have rose from the ashes so it is possible although unlikely. Has left a bad taste so far don't like giving up just getting real hard to not be negative.

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wow, one NFL team beat another NFL team on any given Sunday...

go figure.

times like these prove character... of the fans.

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I respectfully disagree. We know that we have others to put out there because PRob was out most of last season. Go Big Nickle with Corey White on the outside and Bush as the Nickel Safety.

Or go ahead and try Dixon on the outside in press with a safety over the top with Corey White or Bush as the nickel back in the slot.

Or switch to a single high safety look with Byrd and pull Vaccaro closer to the LOS.

The basic problem I have with PRob is that consistently his game is to allow for the receiver to catch the ball or to generate a penalty. Both are drive sustaining and everyone we play will exploit it until it stops.

I get annoyed when the defense gives up a ton of yards. I could live with it if they simply could get a stop on the money downs every once in a while.

SFIAH

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If we lose two close games on the road its not a huge deal i dont expect to do better than 4-4 on the road. Yeah sure, its Cleveland, but the past 3-4 years we lose to inferior teams on the road its not very new. If we lose two straight at home...then i would worry. Yeah the defense doesnt look very stout and the fashion in which we have lost is a bit surprising. I think we see more Corey White over P-Rob this week (hopefully). I'd rather have trouble now and be good in November/December. Last year we were good early, but bad later on in the year and defenses could read us blindfolded and we were way too predictable against Carolina and Seattle. (screen to sproles, pass to jimmy). I think we go maybe 7-1 at home (SF, Bengals, Packers, Ravens) and lose two more on the road at either Carolina, Pitt, or Chicago. So we finish 11-5 again. We do have the capacity to go 13-3. A home game should give the confidence back to the team. I still believe in this team, whodat!

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My comment was not to defend the D. Obviously, the D sucked the last two game. But, it wasn't the only problem. My comment was about the O-Line. This article and the comments below -- and specifically the quoted -- express my sentiments well.

New Orleans Saints' defense lacks fundamentals, offense struggles early vs. Browns' pressure: Film Study | NOLA.com

"Only five of Brees' throws have been for 20-plus yards. This is not by design. Against Cleveland, New Orleans had trouble getting the vertical routes to develop because of pressure. The Browns' game plan, just like the Falcons' a week before, was to eliminate the Saints' vertical passing game -- sometimes by even playing seven defensive backs.

This is why the Saints ran a lot of "21" personnel (two backs, one tight end) using fullback Austin Johnson more for lead runs against the Browns' soft looks. Establishing the run is something Sean Payton wants to do, but preferably after gaining the lead through explosive vertical plays.

Because the vertical element has been limited, the Saints have turned to their running attack more to set up the pass rather than the other way around.

Going forward, the Saints need to get their protections settled to hold up better in Brees' five- and seven-step dropbacks and challenge their receivers to do a better job of working their way open. For most of the game, the Browns did an outstanding job with four-man pressure in front of tight, short coverage. They also did a nice job of contesting throws downfield and were well-positioned. The Browns deserve a lot of credit for their play and effort."