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44Champs 09-22-2014 07:59 AM

O-Line
 
The Saints O-Line is definitely not the same since Aaron Kromer left. I'm not sure if Ingalls installed new blocking/protection schemes or what, but Drew definitely doesnt have the time like he used to. Yes, our run game has gotten MUCH better, so maybe that's the trade-off.

dizzle88 09-22-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 613149)
The Saints O-Line is definitely not the same since Aaron Kromer left. I'm not sure if Ingalls installed new blocking/protection schemes or what, but Drew definitely doesnt have the time like he used to. Yes, our run game has gotten MUCH better, so maybe that's the trade-off.

It's kind of strange to be honest, on the first two drives where our offense was clicking, the holes we were opening for Khiry were huge, plus drew had tons of time

After that our line got man handled for much of the game

jeanpierre 09-22-2014 09:00 AM

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Not sure we need a better offensive line coach than we need younger, faster, stronger talent there...

Strief is the poster child for over achievement...

Grubbs was a consolation signing where we'd done better keeping Nicks...

Goodwin's age is really showing now...

Evans is not dominating as he used to, also because of age...

Armstead is the anchor on which to build the team, but he may actually be an All-Pro Right Tackle now...

Lelito is the only depth we have on the O-Line and he was unable to unseat Goodwin (though there may have been some veteran politics involved with that competition; a training camp interview with Jahri Evans sure created those questions)...

Not saying Aaron Kromer isn't a great O-Line coach, but talent makes you look better...

whybag 09-22-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 613173)
Lelito is the only depth we have on the O-Line and he was unable to unseat Goodwin (though there may have been some veteran politics involved with that competition; a training camp interview with Jahri Evans sure created those questions)...

Dat snap tho'. I think Lelito does a good job cross-training for basically all O-Line roles.

Euphoria 09-22-2014 09:08 AM

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You also have to credit the Vikes for the D.

ikecomp 09-22-2014 09:09 AM

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I don't think we have the worlds greatest line but they're doing pretty good right now. They are susceptible to the thoroughbred pass rushers but then again, who isn't? I've been very pleased at their blocking in the run game and I still think they give brees enough time most of the time to get rid of the ball. That's really all you can ask for.

hagan714 09-22-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 613175)
You also have to credit the Vikes for the D.

yep the vikings have spent the past few years rebuilding that DL. that is why you see Kevin Williams and the others playing else where now. they have done a great job.

our OL does need some youth for sure. time appears to be running out for a few of them

ScottF 09-22-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 613175)
You also have to credit the Vikes for the D.

Yes, plus they showed a lot of different blitz packages.

Drew checked off nicely most of the time (except on the sack/personal foul).

On the one check Rhonde Barber actually correctly commented on it- You could hear Brees say "Jimmy, Ohio, Omaha!" and then Graham released and caught a 5-6 yard pass right off the line.

sidenote- Barber was awful. I actually turned the sound down. On the personal foul he even said 'hate to see that called'.

Crusader 09-22-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 613202)
sidenote- Barber was awful. I actually turned the sound down. On the personal foul he even said 'hate to see that called'.

The Barber brothers are the type of people that needs a high five...



...to the face...




...with a chair.

Rugby Saint II 09-22-2014 02:56 PM

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Our O-line is old............and they run like it.

The Dude 09-22-2014 04:14 PM

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All that said they are definitely better than last year so far. It seemed like Brees was hurried on every play last year, and they could not create a hole to run through to save their lives until Armistead got in and got comfortable.

Danno 09-22-2014 04:26 PM

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Strief and Lelito finished in the top 3 grades on offense.

Grubbs and Armstead slight positives.

Evans was the only negative O-lineman, and worst grade on the entire team.

WHODATINCA 09-22-2014 04:48 PM

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Drew was flushed out of the pocket on the first drive. It was the second first down on the flip out to Cooks. In general, I was happy with the O-line play, especially run blocking, minus the sack and the Leito-Brees misfire.

Danno 09-22-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 613302)
Drew was flushed out of the pocket on the first drive. It was the second first down on the flip out to Cooks. In general, I was happy with the O-line play, especially run blocking, minus the sack and the Leito-Brees misfire.

Yep, other than Evans, our O-line played well. There were about 2 quarters where it seemed like their blitzes resulted in what looked like 9 guys in our backfield, but other than 2 quarters they looked exceptional.

Utah_Saint 09-22-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 613299)
Strief and Lelito finished in the top 3 grades on offense.

Grubbs and Armstead slight positives.

Evans was the only negative O-lineman, and worst grade on the entire team.

And after 3 games Jimmy Graham grades out as the 4th best run blocking TE in the league.

NOLA54 09-22-2014 06:27 PM

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Maybe defenses know what they have to do stop our offense & the OL accommodates it.


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