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What's up with Big John?

Saints don’t bring nose tackle John Jenkins to Dallas | ProFootballTalk

PFT likes to stir things up sometimes, but it is strange. Pectoral is a hard deal to come back from.

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Still, it’s hard not to wonder whether something else is going on. Deactivated players who aren’t healthy typically travel with the team to away games.

Something's up, and it's not good

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WTF I really thought that this guy was the real deal. It is obvious that we miss him in the middle. Our pass rush and run D has suffered without him. This is disappointing to say the least. Wonder what is up. NOT GOOD

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Reading espn and I get the feeling that he is out of shape.Ryan says that it is hard for a big guy to get back after missing training camp

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This is bad. This is real bad news...

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Tripplette got it right. Big John's suffering from missed time. Hard for the guy to make up an entire offseason in 4 weeks.....

New Orleans Saints' John Jenkins doesnt make trip to Dallas - ESPN

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enkins could have missed the trip for any number of reasons, so it may have nothing to do with football.

The second-year pro has taken a step back this year after a strong rookie season. He has been a healthy inactive for two of the Saints’ first three games this season after missing all of OTAs and part of training camp with a pectoral injury.

But Jenkins seemed to have a positive outlook on his demotion when I asked him about it Thursday.

“You know what, I can’t really say that I’m battling frustration. If anything, I’m using this opportunity to get better and work on things that I wasn’t good at last year and be able to pinpoint my flaws more,” Jenkins said. “There’s a place for me, and right now I just need to make sure when they do call my name and they need me, that I’m ready like I was last year.”

Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said “the biggest thing with John is that he missed all of that time due to injuries.”

“When you’re a big guy missing that kind of time, it’s hard to get back,” Ryan said Friday. It’s hard to [miss] the sweating in training camp and all of the hard knocking and all of that. It takes a while for a defensive lineman. [Brandon Deaderick, who moved ahead of Jenkins], is doing a great job playing. [Jenkins] is working really hard, he’ll get back, but it’s a long process.

“You can’t play this game on your own terms; so if you’re hurt it’s hard to get out there and play it. If you miss all of training camp it’s a hard thing to do, especially for a defensive lineman.”

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He's no good to us on the field not being in playing shape, he'll get there and hope he's real hungry when he comes back.

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 614215)

He's no good to us on the field not being in playing shape, he'll get there and hope he's real hungry when he comes back.

Won't one inevitably lead to the other? :p

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Yeah reading this it appears he's just not in football shape yet.

But its still strange that he's not traveling with the team though. Thats unusual isn't it?

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Yeah, I think the issue is that he's not with the team.

It could be a family death, a flu, any number of things though. We don't know.

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Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said “the biggest thing with John is that he missed all of that time due to injuries.”

could this have something to do with all the changes Rob made in the off season to the defensive scheme also?

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We need a quality healthy contributing NT to be more successful on defense on Sundays. He was last year, but not so much this year so far. The guys we have now are barely workable.