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The Dude 10-05-2014 08:51 PM
Gotta love karma
 
Sold out several decent players to pay 2 big name players that are both now injured. We could have used that money to upgrade defense and offensive line and would be fine right now.
They had to know that Graham was going to miss several games due to injury, he always does yet they still paid him. Shoulda let his whiny ASS walk.
Cooks better cut out that falling down crap too. We don't need our 1st round pick not producing as much as he can because he is too much of a ***** to take a hit.

Danno 10-05-2014 08:53 PM
Re: Gotta love karma
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 616643)
Sold out several decent players to pay 2 big name players that are both now injured. We could have used that money to upgrade defense and offensive line and would be fine right now.
They had to know that Graham was going to miss several games due to injury, he always does yet they still paid him. Shoulda let his whiny ASS walk.
Cooks better cut out that falling down crap too. We don't need our 1st round pick not producing as much as he can because he is too much of a ***** to take a hit.
I'd hate to see your posts if we'd lost.

You do know we won right?

saintfan 10-05-2014 09:01 PM
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Karma. We're losing because of player decisions, and you're calling that Karma?

No sir.

That's the business of the NFL. This thread is silly.

WhoDat!656 10-05-2014 09:09 PM
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Did you say Karma?

Tobias-Reiper 10-05-2014 09:26 PM
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RailBoss 10-05-2014 09:49 PM
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Not pretty whether it was Karma, VooDoo or Popeyes Chicken. But it is a division win!!

NonieT 10-05-2014 10:03 PM
Re: Gotta love karma
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 616643)
Sold out several decent players to pay 2 big name players that are both now injured. We could have used that money to upgrade defense and offensive line and would be fine right now.
They had to know that Graham was going to miss several games due to injury, he always does yet they still paid him. Shoulda let his whiny ASS walk.
Cooks better cut out that falling down crap too. We don't need our 1st round pick not producing as much as he can because he is too much of a ***** to take a hit.
Just what decent players did we sell out? Every player we let go wasn't worth keeping. And dear, it's football. Unfortunately, players get hurt sometimes.

RockyMountainSaint 10-05-2014 10:15 PM
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The Dude 10-05-2014 11:42 PM
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First off I don't drink. (which is part of the problem) Second, I really don't care that we let go a few players, I wish we would have kept Sproles, but no biggie. I'm perturbed because we sunk a ton of money in a TE who drops the ball and is only healthy about 2/3 of a season and a DB for some stupid 3 safety scheme when we could have used the money elsewhere. We could have gotten players to beef up our LBers and O line which were shaky all through last season. We could have focused on bringing in players that we could start building on up front in the trenches where the game is won or lost.
You can have the highest paid backfield in the world but if your guys up front can't grasp the basic principles of tackling and blocking then its a waste of money. A good front can make up for a shaky backfield but a decent backfield can't make up for crappy line and Lber play.
We won, yea, but we made another red shirt QB look elite and got taken to OT in our own house by a ****tyt team.

|Mitch| 10-05-2014 11:49 PM
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***** when we lose, ***** when we win... Some people are never satisfied. Would have hated to be around them in the past before Brees/Payton :rolleyes:

Halo 10-05-2014 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 616670)
First off I don't drink. (which is part of the problem) Second, I really don't care that we let go a few players, I wish we would have kept Sproles, but no biggie. I'm perturbed because we sunk a ton of money in a TE who drops the ball and is only healthy about 2/3 of a season and a DB for some stupid 3 safety scheme when we could have used the money elsewhere. We could have gotten players to beef up our LBers and O line which were shaky all through last season. We could have focused on bringing in players that we could start building on up front in the trenches where the game is won or lost.
You can have the highest paid backfield in the world but if your guys up front can't grasp the basic principles of tackling and blocking then its a waste of money. A good front can make up for a shaky backfield but a decent backfield can't make up for crappy line and Lber play.
We won, yea, but we made another red shirt QB look elite and got taken to OT in our own house by a ****tyt team.
Brees, all by his lonesome, gave the Bucs 14 points. That's a problem.
Brees also is the man who leads the comeback, especially if his mistakes create the hole. That's why he gets a pass.

I agree with you because I am very disappointed in Jimmy Graham especially since he got paid. The drops are unacceptable! Right before he was hurt the Saints threw to him 3 times in the red zone and we racked up three drops and three and out.

I also feel the Byrd deal is gonna cream us in the coming years. He may end up dead weight and we won't be able to upgrade positions because his contract is back loaded and guaranteed. After reading Buffalo fans about Byrd, they were ready for him to go because he wanted more money and since he was paid (the last time), his performance declined. I just think we could have gotten a stud OLB and a veteran O-lineman with that money and got a lot more for our money.

RockyMountainSaint 10-06-2014 12:08 AM
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Byrd will be Loomis' albatross.

Win now with Drew mentality is gonna make for some lean times in the coming years.

FWIW, I think Drew is injured in some way.
His deep passes have sucked this season.
Meachem could have had 3 TDs if the passes were there today.

jeanpierre 10-06-2014 12:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 616660)
This thread brought to you by:
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jeanpierre 10-06-2014 12:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 616673)
Byrd will be Loomis' albatross.

Win now with Drew mentality is gonna make for some lean times in the coming years.

FWIW, I think Drew is injured in some way.
His deep passes have sucked this season.
Meachem could have had 3 TDs if the passes were there today.

We're in dead money territory and it's only gone get worse...

Everybody has been praising Loomis and his creative ways to find cap room these past three seasons...

I'd rather have seen some leadership from him and him tell Payton and staff to coach up the youngsters as well as seen him take the lead on some of these questionable draft pick moves...

As great as Payton can be in some of his decisions; he's really floated some terds in his picks and personnel moves like his double reverses...

WHODATINCA 10-06-2014 12:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 616660)
This thread brought to you by:
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and

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The Saints will never love you the way you love them.
Dude is back to his season-defining form. See image below. Eeyore personified. Hang your head Dude and tell us how bad it's gonna be. Come on -- we all know you want to, badly.

Oh, and to all the Drew's Arm Strength crowd -------> just STFU -- fo' sho' we don't give a rat's ass.

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Halo 10-06-2014 02:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 616684)
Dude is back to his season-defining form. See image below. Eeyore personified. Hang your head Dude and tell us how bad it's gonna be. Come on -- we all know you want to, badly.

Oh, and to all the Drew's Arm Strength crowd -------> just STFU -- fo' sho' we don't give a rat's ass.

https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/...12/9713630.gif
Drew Brees never had a Dan Marino arm. His skill is similar to a surgeon. He can touch pass, shovel pass and throw deep. His deep passing has been reduced because we have moved more to control ball and we're attempting to establish running game.

I honestly feel players like Dan Marino had TOO strong of an arm where so many passes bounced off receivers and through hands. Marino was powerful.

To the noodle-arm crowd, again, when was Drew's arm ever stronger than it is now? A ton of other things go into QB accuracy and effectiveness. One element is time in the pocket, something that has diminished since 2011.

Since he has been a Saint, Drew Brees brought with him the ability to make things happen, all by himself. He's a game changer, and Saints fans are super spoiled. When those sparks he creates go bad and he throws an INT, he comes back and fixes the problem. Sometimes we fall short. Regardless, we never realize how many times his arm wins games for us. YES he gave away 14 points today, but YES he brought us back from the brink.

Criticism? Sure complain all you want. Drew Brees is the only player with gigantic contract who has continued to play at pro level, uninjured. In fact, he plays through injury and doesn't complain. What does the criticism do? Nothing because we have no other options available AND there is no other player we can go out and grab to replace Drew Brees who can do a better job. End of story. That's why it's a moot point. We got the QB we rode in with and will have him a few more years now.

jnormand 10-06-2014 03:13 AM
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And to think...I was just happy we finished a game and got a win.. Chill the **** out and let the rest of us enjoy this. You'd complain if you won the lottery. Jesus.

SloMotion 10-06-2014 06:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 616696)
Drew Brees never had a Dan Marino arm. His skill is similar to a surgeon. He can touch pass, shovel pass and throw deep. His deep passing has been reduced because we have moved more to control ball and we're attempting to establish running game.

I honestly feel players like Dan Marino had TOO strong of an arm where so many passes bounced off receivers and through hands. Marino was powerful.

To the noodle-arm crowd, again, when was Drew's arm ever stronger than it is now? A ton of other things go into QB accuracy and effectiveness. One element is time in the pocket, something that has diminished since 2011.

Since he has been a Saint, Drew Brees brought with him the ability to make things happen, all by himself. He's a game changer, and Saints fans are super spoiled. When those sparks he creates go bad and he throws an INT, he comes back and fixes the problem. Sometimes we fall short. Regardless, we never realize how many times his arm wins games for us. YES he gave away 14 points today, but YES he brought us back from the brink.

Criticism? Sure complain all you want. Drew Brees is the only player with gigantic contract who has continued to play at pro level, uninjured. In fact, he plays through injury and doesn't complain. What does the criticism do? Nothing because we have no other options available AND there is no other player we can go out and grab to replace Drew Brees who can do a better job. End of story. That's why it's a moot point. We got the QB we rode in with and will have him a few more years now.
Lotta' truth in this post (Marino would give you a concussion if he hit you in the back of the helmet ... there are stories, :lol:). I would go to war with Drew Brees ... and I mean "real war", not a football field because I'd probably get him killed out there on one of those, :lol:. If any QB out there is gonna' correct his own deficiencies & "bring you back from the brink", it'll be #9, IMO. Even Brady/Rodgers have paled in comparison as of late ... P. Manning still remains in the running, but there's no denying Drew.

Saints fans have had it really good under Payton/Loomis with Drew and I am truly envious. I think it's more a fear of returning to the days of mediocrity/obscurity when DET/NO used to compete for the "doormat of the league" honors, or something similar, than actual complaining going on.

If anyone is gonna' get it done and correct what's been going on thus far this season, it's the team NO has in place ... you guys have true, proven leaders IMO. There's a lot of things that go on in this league that influence a team's progress and if anyone can weather the ups & downs, it's the Saints.

Just sayin', :).

SmashMouth 10-06-2014 09:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 616722)
Lotta' truth in this post (Marino would give you a concussion if he hit you in the back of the helmet ... there are stories, :lol:). I would go to war with Drew Brees ... and I mean "real war", not a football field because I'd probably get him killed out there on one of those, :lol:. If any QB out there is gonna' correct his own deficiencies & "bring you back from the brink", it'll be #9, IMO. Even Brady/Rodgers have paled in comparison as of late ... P. Manning still remains in the running, but there's no denying Drew.

Saints fans have had it really good under Payton/Loomis with Drew and I am truly envious. I think it's more a fear of returning to the days of mediocrity/obscurity when DET/NO used to compete for the "doormat of the league" honors, or something similar, than actual complaining going on.

If anyone is gonna' get it done and correct what's been going on thus far this season, it's the team NO has in place ... you guys have true, proven leaders IMO. There's a lot of things that go on in this league that influence a team's progress and if anyone can weather the ups & downs, it's the Saints.

Just sayin', :).

That's worth a :beer: or two... :bng:

The Dude 10-06-2014 10:13 AM
Re: Gotta love karma
 
We have paid this organization for over 40 years and stuck by them through thick and thin. I imagine most here including me will continue to do so even when they suck again and have to rebuild. I think the fans deserve to see a good team on the field and expect the best from them. Nothing wrong Holding them to a high standard. We deserve it as fans.

The Dude 10-06-2014 01:04 PM
Re: Gotta love karma
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 616696)
Drew Brees never had a Dan Marino arm. His skill is similar to a surgeon. He can touch pass, shovel pass and throw deep. His deep passing has been reduced because we have moved more to control ball and we're attempting to establish running game.

I honestly feel players like Dan Marino had TOO strong of an arm where so many passes bounced off receivers and through hands. Marino was powerful.

To the noodle-arm crowd, again, when was Drew's arm ever stronger than it is now? A ton of other things go into QB accuracy and effectiveness. One element is time in the pocket, something that has diminished since 2011.

Since he has been a Saint, Drew Brees brought with him the ability to make things happen, all by himself. He's a game changer, and Saints fans are super spoiled. When those sparks he creates go bad and he throws an INT, he comes back and fixes the problem. Sometimes we fall short. Regardless, we never realize how many times his arm wins games for us. YES he gave away 14 points today, but YES he brought us back from the brink.

Criticism? Sure complain all you want. Drew Brees is the only player with gigantic contract who has continued to play at pro level, uninjured. In fact, he plays through injury and doesn't complain. What does the criticism do? Nothing because we have no other options available AND there is no other player we can go out and grab to replace Drew Brees who can do a better job. End of story. That's why it's a moot point. We got the QB we rode in with and will have him a few more years now.
It pissed me off when people started booing. Brees is still getting it done behind a line that is half as good as it used to be.

Danno 10-06-2014 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 616826)
It pissed me off when people started booing. Brees is still getting it done behind a line that is half as good as it used to be.
Dude, almost all of your posts are "written" boos.

SaintsBro 10-06-2014 01:28 PM
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Not sure if it made the broadcast or not, but there was a significant round of boos that went up after the Bucs scored that quick TD in the start of the 3rd quarter. We looked around to make sure that everyone else had heard it, and they did. It only lasted a few seconds but you could hear it was coming more from the terrace than the bowl. Pretty wild.

jnormand 10-06-2014 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 616836)
Not sure if it made the broadcast or not, but there was a significant round of boos that went up after the Bucs scored that quick TD in the start of the 3rd quarter. We looked around to make sure that everyone else had heard it, and they did. It only lasted a few seconds but you could hear it was coming more from the terrace than the bowl. Pretty wild.
Oh yeah. After the Buc's went on a 24 point run. It was loud (and well deserved). But maybe it made a difference. Being booed in your own home.

Danno 10-06-2014 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 616836)
Not sure if it made the broadcast or not, but there was a significant round of boos that went up after the Bucs scored that quick TD in the start of the 3rd quarter. We looked around to make sure that everyone else had heard it, and they did. It only lasted a few seconds but you could hear it was coming more from the terrace than the bowl. Pretty wild.
It came across the broadcast loud and clear. I'm not a fan of booing, but for some reason it seemed appropriate and I think it actually got their attention.

Jamessr 10-06-2014 01:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 616826)
It pissed me off when people started booing. Brees is still getting it done behind a line that is half as good as it used to be.
Maybe he should of settled for the 90 million they offered him the 1st time

NOS2SB 10-06-2014 01:44 PM
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It's them stupid ass reading glasses that Sean is wearing. He's jinxing us.

Jamessr 10-06-2014 01:44 PM
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I'm going to get some hate/heat for this and I'd never thought I'd say it...
However today, right now... Drew is overpaid

Mardigras9 10-06-2014 01:45 PM
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I think the crowd in the Dome was relatively flat anyway.
Everyone in there seemed like they were waiting for the other shoe to drop, so when Tampa jumped ahead everyone reacted.

Fans are cheering with the same confidence the team is playing with.

SloMotion 10-06-2014 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 616852)
... Fans are cheering with the same confidence the team is playing with.
That's a great point anywhere! :)

Rugby Saint II 10-06-2014 03:33 PM
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I think booing is low class.jmho

WHODATINCA 10-06-2014 03:55 PM
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If you think you can do better -- then get your a$$ out on the field. Otherwise, STFU.

WHODATINCA 10-06-2014 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NOS2SB (Post 616850)
It's them stupid ass reading glasses that Sean is wearing. He's jinxing us.
I'm not a fan of the glasses either. Apparently, you can use one contact lens in one eye and that does the adjustment for reading for some people ( without making them trip over the curbs ). SP should try that -- because the glasses just make him look old.

SmashMouth 10-06-2014 04:49 PM
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Drew Brees is still the team's leader ... kinda like this dude below.

http://www.catgifs.org/wp-content/up...p_cat_gifs.gif

Danno 10-06-2014 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 616948)
wow so the fans are ready to jump ship? c'mon who dats its only week 5 every year isnt gonna look pretty. i rather start slow, end hot vs the other way round.
Best one you've ever posted!

The Dude 10-06-2014 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 616829)
Dude, almost all of your posts are "written" boos.
In my defense never was able to take us all the way to the Super Bowl. And I don't send them to the team.
Being disappointed or even hard on your team is one thing but booing the players when they are doing the best they can is another. I don't believe in getting personal, and I think booing is personal. JMO.

WHODATINCA 10-06-2014 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 616763)
We have paid this organization for over 40 years and stuck by them through thick and thin. I imagine most here including me will continue to do so even when they suck again and have to rebuild. I think the fans deserve to see a good team on the field and expect the best from them. Nothing wrong Holding them to a high standard. We deserve it as fans.
Holding the team and the Saints organization to a high standard is not the same thing as predicting that they will fail.

It is an important distinction that seems to be lost on you -- each and every year.


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