Looking ahead to @DET

dizzle88 · 10-06-2014, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I think RB proved in Miami that he could run between the tackles and Detroit uses him that way somewhat, more so with Bell's recent injury, but they also got George Winn off the practice squad who got a lot of carries yesterday to cover Bell's role & did Ok ... kinda' fumble-prone though, which is why he was on the practice squad.

Bush should have an Ok game, IMO ... he was part of that 'first-running-back-tandem-to-each-have-over-500yds-rushing/receiving' NFL record last season and that is one of the improved areas from the last DET/NO lmeeting I was referring to.

Yeah definitely, not taking anything away from bush because he was a huge part of us getting back on the map. Plus I think you guys have found the correct balance for him of inside runs and pass catching plays, he showed in miami he could run between the tackles but the problem they had is they tried to force him to be a 3 down between the tackles runner, Bush's injury history alone speaks for itself on that front.
You guys have found a good balance where to best utilise his skill set, although I'd love for him to go back to the dancing Reggie of old in 2 weeks time, just for one game

Stafford will come out slinging to test our D though, pass rush is as vital as ever for us if we hope to stop him

VegasSaint9 · 10-06-2014, 05:55 AM

For now i don't trust this team. OT or not they should have man-handled the Bucs. They fought back, but it was against the Bucs. Not impressed until they rally against more quality teams, and can get everyone on the same page for one game. Then I believe they have their mojo back to where it should be.

Danno · 10-06-2014, 08:48 AM

Detroit is loaded with ex-Saints. That usually means disaster for us.

This game will come down to the usual.

Turnovers and team discipline. If we play our A-game, we win. Anything else is probably not good enough.

saintsfan1976 · 10-06-2014, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Detroit is loaded with ex-Saints. That usually means disaster for us.

This game will come down to the usual.

Turnovers and team discipline. If we play our A-game, we win. Anything else is probably not good enough.

Pressure on Stafford. Give him the time we gave Glennon, et al - we are gonna get burned for 400yds+ passing.

Mardigras9 · 10-07-2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Pressure on Stafford

Haven't been able to get good pressure on anyone yet. If they don't, megatron and stafford will have a throw and catch day, all day.

SloMotion · 10-08-2014, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Haven't been able to get good pressure on anyone yet. If they don't, megatron and stafford will have a throw and catch day, all day.

Haven't been crunching the numbers as in seasons past, but as game day approaches, I will for this one ... want to see how the injury roster shapes up after DET/MIN this weekend ... it's only week five and half the league's out already ... did I just never pay attention to this before or are injuries getting worse earlier every season?

Two of the great matchups in NO/DET are going to be the offensive/defensive lines. Detroit's got a semi-retooled offensive line that's gotten mixed reviews so far (and was pretty much shredded by Buffalo) and while I'd love to say the Lions defensive front is playing to it's potential, it's really not. I see some improvement, but they're not dominating/taking over a game like they should be.

The New Orleans O-Line was always the unit I liked the best,

... and now you guys got my Michigan home-boy Tim Lelito on there, I like 'em even better. I'm looking forward to see how Goodwin/Grubbs/Evans fare vs Fairley/Suh ... there's some good viewing right there,

.

(You guys could do me a favor, eh? You may or may/not know I always dispute the whole, "Suh is double-teamed on every play" theory ... let's take this opportunity to focus on those matchups and give me some expert, non-biased feedback ... maybe I'll start up a thread or something close to gameday,

)

Detroit's O-Line has it's detractors, but I've never been one of them and it seems like the Saints D-Line has always had one issue or another. If you can pressure Stafford, he'll make mistakes ... leave him alone & he'll shred you with Calvin alone, not too mention all the new toys (Bush, Tate, Ebron, et...) the front office got him to play with. I kinda' see the Lions' winning this matchup, but not convincingly. The right side of the line has been underperforming, might be a good day for Hicks.

spkb25 · 10-06-2014, 09:01 AM

Hoping the BYE week cures some ills. Hoping going into the bye with a win makes us get this together, but man oh man we have issue at LB... bad.

VegasSaint9 · 10-06-2014, 03:06 PM

I've been praying for us to draft a linebacker with our first or second round picks for the last 3 years or so. Historically the best linebackers, or defensive talent in general is drafted in the first two rounds. We haven't had two second round picks in the last 2/3 drafts, but still we need one badly. I was hoping for Jerry Attaouchu in the second. Seeing as SJB has nothing to offer this year it looks like it would've been the right move.

SloMotion · 10-06-2014, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

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Stafford will come out slinging to test our D though, pass rush is as vital as ever for us if we hope to stop him

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Pressure on Stafford. Give him the time we gave Glennon, et al - we are gonna get burned for 400yds+ passing.

Well, right now after the Buffalo game, MattFord and the offense are taking the heat for only scoring 7pts (the other 7 were on a Rashean Mathis interception). They're loaded with first and second round draft picks that just aren't living up to their billing. Golden Tate'll burn you, though,

.

The general consensus is Stafford is holding on to the ball too long and is lost without Megatron, despite having been given multiple offensive weapons this season. He did seem to be turning it around from a tough last season, but the Buffalo game showed he can still be rattled back there with some pressure.

Johnson has a lingering ankle injury that was aggravated vs the Bills. It's being bandied about that he should rest Wk #6 vs the Vikings so he'll be in better shape & available Wk #7 vs the Saints.

It's not looking too good for the Lions here on out ... just sayin',

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billyt81 · 10-08-2014, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9

I've been praying for us to draft a linebacker with our first or second round picks for the last 3 years or so. Historically the best linebackers, or defensive talent in general is drafted in the first two rounds. We haven't had two second round picks in the last 2/3 drafts, but still we need one badly. I was hoping for Jerry Attaouchu in the second. Seeing as SJB has nothing to offer this year it looks like it would've been the right move.

What don't any of our linebackers remind you of Levontae David?

10-06-2014, 07:34 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Originally Posted by SloMotion I think RB proved in Miami that he could run between the tackles and Detroit uses him that way somewhat, more so with Bell's recent injury, but they also got George Winn off the practice squad who got a lot of carries yesterday to cover Bell's role & did Ok ... kinda' fumble-prone though, which is why he was on the practice squad. Bush should have an Ok game, IMO ... he was part of that 'first-running-back-tandem-to-each-have-over-500yds-rushing/receiving' NFL record last season and that is one of the improved areas from the last DET/NO lmeeting I was referring to. Yeah definitely, not taking anything away from bush because he was a huge part of us getting back on the map. Plus I think you guys have found the correct balance for him of inside runs and pass catching plays, he showed in miami he could run between the tackles but the problem they had is they tried to force him to be a 3 down between the tackles runner, Bush's injury history alone speaks for itself on that front. You guys have found a good balance where to best utilise his skill set, although I'd love for him to go back to the dancing Reggie of old in 2 weeks time, just for one game Stafford will come out slinging to test our D though, pass rush is as vital as ever for us if we hope to stop him
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10-06-2014, 05:55 AM	#2
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Looking ahead to @DET For now i don't trust this team. OT or not they should have man-handled the Bucs. They fought back, but it was against the Bucs. Not impressed until they rally against more quality teams, and can get everyone on the same page for one game. Then I believe they have their mojo back to where it should be.

10-06-2014, 08:48 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Detroit is loaded with ex-Saints. That usually means disaster for us. This game will come down to the usual. Turnovers and team discipline. If we play our A-game, we win. Anything else is probably not good enough.

10-06-2014, 11:59 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Originally Posted by Danno Detroit is loaded with ex-Saints. That usually means disaster for us. This game will come down to the usual. Turnovers and team discipline. If we play our A-game, we win. Anything else is probably not good enough. Pressure on Stafford. Give him the time we gave Glennon, et al - we are gonna get burned for 400yds+ passing.

10-07-2014, 11:22 AM	#5
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Pressure on Stafford Haven't been able to get good pressure on anyone yet. If they don't, megatron and stafford will have a throw and catch day, all day.

10-08-2014, 05:46 AM	#6
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Haven't been able to get good pressure on anyone yet. If they don't, megatron and stafford will have a throw and catch day, all day. Haven't been crunching the numbers as in seasons past, but as game day approaches, I will for this one ... want to see how the injury roster shapes up after DET/MIN this weekend ... it's only week five and half the league's out already ... did I just never pay attention to this before or are injuries getting worse earlier every season? Two of the great matchups in NO/DET are going to be the offensive/defensive lines. Detroit's got a semi-retooled offensive line that's gotten mixed reviews so far (and was pretty much shredded by Buffalo) and while I'd love to say the Lions defensive front is playing to it's potential, it's really not. I see some improvement, but they're not dominating/taking over a game like they should be. The New Orleans O-Line was always the unit I liked the best, ... and now you guys got my Michigan home-boy Tim Lelito on there, I like 'em even better. I'm looking forward to see how Goodwin/Grubbs/Evans fare vs Fairley/Suh ... there's some good viewing right there, . (You guys could do me a favor, eh? You may or may/not know I always dispute the whole, "Suh is double-teamed on every play" theory ... let's take this opportunity to focus on those matchups and give me some expert, non-biased feedback ... maybe I'll start up a thread or something close to gameday, ) Detroit's O-Line has it's detractors, but I've never been one of them and it seems like the Saints D-Line has always had one issue or another. If you can pressure Stafford, he'll make mistakes ... leave him alone & he'll shred you with Calvin alone, not too mention all the new toys (Bush, Tate, Ebron, et...) the front office got him to play with. I kinda' see the Lions' winning this matchup, but not convincingly. The right side of the line has been underperforming, might be a good day for Hicks.

10-06-2014, 09:01 AM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Hoping the BYE week cures some ills. Hoping going into the bye with a win makes us get this together, but man oh man we have issue at LB... bad. VegasSaint9 likes this.

10-06-2014, 03:06 PM	#8
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Looking ahead to @DET I've been praying for us to draft a linebacker with our first or second round picks for the last 3 years or so. Historically the best linebackers, or defensive talent in general is drafted in the first two rounds. We haven't had two second round picks in the last 2/3 drafts, but still we need one badly. I was hoping for Jerry Attaouchu in the second. Seeing as SJB has nothing to offer this year it looks like it would've been the right move.

10-06-2014, 04:02 PM	#9
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Originally Posted by dizzle88 ... Stafford will come out slinging to test our D though, pass rush is as vital as ever for us if we hope to stop him Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Pressure on Stafford. Give him the time we gave Glennon, et al - we are gonna get burned for 400yds+ passing. Well, right now after the Buffalo game, MattFord and the offense are taking the heat for only scoring 7pts (the other 7 were on a Rashean Mathis interception). They're loaded with first and second round draft picks that just aren't living up to their billing. Golden Tate'll burn you, though, . The general consensus is Stafford is holding on to the ball too long and is lost without Megatron, despite having been given multiple offensive weapons this season. He did seem to be turning it around from a tough last season, but the Buffalo game showed he can still be rattled back there with some pressure. Johnson has a lingering ankle injury that was aggravated vs the Bills. It's being bandied about that he should rest Wk #6 vs the Vikings so he'll be in better shape & available Wk #7 vs the Saints. It's not looking too good for the Lions here on out ... just sayin', . hagan714 likes this.

10-08-2014, 02:42 PM	#10
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Looking ahead to @DET Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 I've been praying for us to draft a linebacker with our first or second round picks for the last 3 years or so. Historically the best linebackers, or defensive talent in general is drafted in the first two rounds. We haven't had two second round picks in the last 2/3 drafts, but still we need one badly. I was hoping for Jerry Attaouchu in the second. Seeing as SJB has nothing to offer this year it looks like it would've been the right move. What don't any of our linebackers remind you of Levontae David?

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