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WhoDat!656 10-10-2014 03:58 PM

Saints WR's Are M.I.A. in 2014
 
In my article the other day in which I took a specific look at several of the speculations being given by fans and observers of the Saints for the (alleged) “decline” for QB Drew Brees, one that I purposely left off of that list until this morning’s coffee was the fact that the Saints WR’s so far have been nothing short of TERRIBLE. When a rookie is your leading WR and your only “deep threat” is your back-up TE, you officially are terrible. Alert the authorities and call out the search party — because these guys are M.I.A. (missing in action) in 2014.

BAD RECEPTION: Saints WR's are M.I.A. in 2014

dizzle88 10-10-2014 04:02 PM

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Colston, Morgan, Stills, Meachem

They've all done next to nothing all season

Colston looks completely lost and not confident at all, plus he's having a real problem both catching and not fumbling
Stills - looks completely scared going to make a catch
Meachem - he's always been big one week and absent the next, brees under threw him a couple times but he's still done nothing
Morgan and Toon - one needed to step up for playing time and neither has

If toon can't get active on game day ahead of this sorry group, then he isn't going to contribute to our team at all

Barry from MS 10-10-2014 04:06 PM

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Brew's absence through training camp with the oblique injury is showing up so far during the season. The timing is just a bit off between Drew and the WRs. Those timing issues lead to WR's getting exposed to big hits and we're seeing some alligator arms on some pass attempts. I know I've seen Stills and Colston do this a few times. I hope that's all it is.

The Bye Week should get that timing back, hopefully. It's only "Onwards & Upwards" from there when the timing is fixed...right?

WHODATINCA 10-10-2014 04:10 PM

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Used to be it didn't matter who you threw it to because they were all going to catch it -- except Meach -- who will always get a pass from me because of that INT takeaway in 2009 against the Redskins. What I wouldn't give to see him do that just one more time. Now that is exemplary play. Passion for winning!!

Yes, the coordination between Brees and the receivers is off. But also, there has been:

1) Marshmallow hands
2) Failure to get separation and mental errors
3) Failure to actually get down the field in time ( read: slow as molasses)
4) Failure to fight for the fricken' ball
5) Good secondaries

And, Drew Brees has been less accurate this year ( notice I AM NOT SAYING he sucks ).

Barry from MS 10-10-2014 04:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 617690)
And, Drew Brees has been less accurate this year ( notice I AM NOT SAYING he sucks ).

Noted. We've discussed this at length, I reckon.

Honestly I think the accuracy issue has many factors. The missed time in camp, the 26th-ranked pass protecting O-line, the Golden Oblique, the WR's not fighting for the ball/getting separation/having marsh mellow hands, etc.

Let's hope this Bye Week fixes all ills so we don't have to revisit the ugliness of debating whether or not Drew is in decline.

Danno 10-10-2014 05:30 PM

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Nick Toon is a BUST. A “bust” of EPIC proportions.
A 4th round pick, IR'd for a year and still on the team in his 3rd year is hardly what I'd call a "bust of EPIC proportions". Sensationalize much?

Danno 10-10-2014 05:32 PM

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Also, I've seen Meachem blow past his man 4 times this season only to have Drew throw it too short and its broken up.

One more yard on those 4 throws and Meachem may be having his best season ever.

blackangold 10-10-2014 06:10 PM

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This is by far the best group Brees has ever been able to throw to...

Please name another year where Drew had this many options... we are loaded. Its either Drews timing is off because of camp or he has lost some arm strength.

None of that matters though. Offensively if we dont turn the ball over we could be just as good as 2011. Stop throwing picks Drew.

Danno 10-10-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 617706)
This is by far the best group Brees has ever been able to throw to...

Please name another year where Drew had this many options... we are loaded. Its either Drews timing is off because of camp or he has lost some arm strength.

None of that matters though. Offensively if we dont turn the ball over we could be just as good as 2011. Stop throwing picks Drew.

Agreed.

I think its mostly Drews inability to set his feet and step up into the pocket and launch the deep ball. I don't think his arm strength has declined at all and I wish I could find that article that mentioned arm-strength is the last thing to go on aging QB's.

He doesn't have an all-world Carl Nicks at LG, or the all-world Jahri Evans from a few years ago providing that comfy pocket up front. Our O-line went from all-world pass protection to mediocre at best.

I also think that because of our defensive struggles that Drew feels he has to make something happen on every possession. This must be the reason for some of the dumbest throws I've ever seen Drew make. Arm strength has nothing to do with the dumb throws.

RailBoss 10-11-2014 01:26 AM

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Drew also doesn't have Lance Moore and Darren Sproles who were able to pick up those short passes when pressured. Those guys were a deterrent for the LB's and DB's and kept them honest. I don't see any current player stepping into those roles.

WHODATINCA 10-11-2014 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 617693)
Let's hope this Bye Week fixes all ills so we don't have to revisit the ugliness of debating whether or not Drew is in decline.

Dear God, I hope so. Anything but the "in decline" debate. Anything. I'll even do cat pictures.

hagan714 10-11-2014 06:24 AM

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saints need a WR that can work the middle of the field. not a burner but a route runner that has hands and can take a beating. That or for once get Drew a true #1. Colston has done a good imitation of one. But he is a True #2 if i ever saw one.

I have never bought into the quality depth hype of saints WR but for once i have seen improvement in picks in the past two years. also Drew has never had the strongest arm in the NFL so deep threats are not always as dangerous as we would hope for. but under 40 yards Drew is deadly.

some mid to late rounds i am watching are. because only three WR are safe to stick. the rest can be replaced

perfect fit round 3/4
WR/KR Rannell Hall UCF

tall end of the draft

A big boy just learning the game and has some impressive size and hands.
Vince Mayle WR Washington State

interesting prospect late. quick physical and a good route runner
WR Justin Hardy East Carolina

SloMotion 10-11-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 617728)
Dear God, I hope so. Anything but the "in decline" debate. Anything. I'll even do cat pictures.

Nothing like a good dose of the "Detroit Lions" to cure what ails him, ;) ... heck they made Kyle Orton (BUF) (yes, that Kyle Orton, :rolleyes:) look like a world-beater last Sunday & Bridgewater (MN) is already being referred to as "Touchdown" Teddy Bridgewater in some circles around here, :lol:.

It'll be alright, :).

Rugby Saint II 10-11-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 617728)
Dear God, I hope so. Anything but the "in decline" debate. Anything. I'll even do cat pictures.


Well??? We're waiting! :p

K Major 10-11-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 617687)

Colston looks completely lost and not confident at all, plus he's having a real problem both catching and not fumbling

Yeah... I wonder if there is something personal going on with Colston? That's not him.

Cruize 10-13-2014 09:47 AM

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Meachem being on the team for his blocking consindering the team never runs the ball says it all.

SmashMouth 10-13-2014 10:10 AM

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Is Coleman ready to chime in?

Danno 10-13-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 618061)
Meachem being on the team for his blocking consindering the team never runs the ball says it all.

The NFL average for rushing attempts per game is 27. We are at 26.

I'd like to rush more, but its not like we never run.

dizzle88 10-13-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 618070)
Is Coleman ready to chime in?

Like we really need more WR's with bad hands on gameday

We already have colston and Graham dropping anything thrown their way.

ClintSaints 10-13-2014 11:44 AM

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Let's elevate Brandon Coleman and see what he can do. He can't be worse than Colston this year.

K Major 10-13-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ClintSaints (Post 618094)
Let's elevate Brandon Coleman and see what he can do. He can't be worse than Colston this year.

If we want to scrape the barrel at WR, I would argue that Seantavious Jones would be the better prospect to elevate & had a better camp than Coleman.

WHODATINCA 10-13-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 617760)
Well??? We're waiting! :p

When people say Drew Brees is in decline, first, I'm like:

http://www.pointsconnected.com/black..._head_slap.gif


Then, I go like this:

http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--...-Sauce-001.jpg


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