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spkb25 10-19-2014 04:17 PM

Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
The refs and the entire direction of the game is boring. Tell me when a receiver goes across the middle and gets lit up you aren't surprised when a flag isn't thrown. I just can't watch anymore. It is boring. Last year in the playoffs the BS call on Bush against Seattle just because he laid someone out. The game is becoming boring. You watch and the penalties make you feel like the **** is scripted. Not all the time, but many times. I seriously don't think I want to watch it. Not that you guys give a ****, lol, but I just have to voice this frustration somewhere. Used to be my favorite time of the year. Id' read everything in the off-season. I barely pay attention now. Game has turned to **** and it is just going to get worse

blackangold 10-19-2014 04:21 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I understand your frustration.

I just dislike the subjectivity behind the calls and think officials should be fined by the league for making blatantly bad calls. I also fully support the implantation of a replay system for all penalties. They need to be held accountable for the mistakes they make just like the players are.

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 04:23 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Soon it will turn to flag football

WillSaints81 10-19-2014 04:34 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I have to agree it is fixed. I think we need a change. We're becoming nostalgic. Payton cannot adapt. Yeah we can talk about penalties but we can also talk about the way Brees has played. We're stuck with it until Brees has the luck on his shoulders again. Brees will not accept number 4 in this era and I think he is bothered by it. He just needs to accept it so the team can play better.

darksoul35 10-19-2014 04:41 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Roger has ruined the NFL just like he ruined our season of playing at home in the super bowl

4everSaint 10-19-2014 05:01 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 619576)
The refs and the entire direction of the game is boring. Tell me when a receiver goes across the middle and gets lit up you aren't surprised when a flag isn't thrown. I just can't watch anymore. It is boring. Last year in the playoffs the BS call on Bush against Seattle just because he laid someone out. The game is becoming boring. You watch and the penalties make you feel like the **** is scripted. Not all the time, but many times. I seriously don't think I want to watch it. Not that you guys give a ****, lol, but I just have to voice this frustration somewhere. Used to be my favorite time of the year. Id' read everything in the off-season. I barely pay attention now. Game has turned to **** and it is just going to get worse

Right there with you my friend. Been a fan since I went to the dome for my first time back in the Herbert/Dome Patrol years. I think I was around 12 at that time. I just turned 40 a few months ago. I'm glad we have at least seen what will probably be our only Super Bowl win.

But this is just ridiculous. I feel like Goodell has a command center where he sits on Sundays with 32 red phones lined up in front of him.
Then at will, he picks up the phone at any given moment and says, "Change the game."

I don't truly think that but damn is this not frustrating to watch unfold.

NOLA54 10-19-2014 05:14 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 619576)
The refs and the entire direction of the game is boring. Tell me when a receiver goes across the middle and gets lit up you aren't surprised when a flag isn't thrown. I just can't watch anymore. It is boring. Last year in the playoffs the BS call on Bush against Seattle just because he laid someone out. The game is becoming boring. You watch and the penalties make you feel like the **** is scripted. Not all the time, but many times. I seriously don't think I want to watch it. Not that you guys give a ****, lol, but I just have to voice this frustration somewhere. Used to be my favorite time of the year. Id' read everything in the off-season. I barely pay attention now. Game has turned to **** and it is just going to get worse

This use to be my favorite time of the year as well. Now I hate it!!!!!!
I hope we are never picked to win another super bowl as long as I live. Of course I want us to win another one just not picked.

Jack Vegas 10-19-2014 05:16 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I know how ya'll feel. It's not half as exciting as it used to be. That doesn't really have all that much to do with the Saints being good or bad, the game just doesn't have the flow anymore and the referees are front and center every game. It's just not as entertaining. I could literally fall asleep during most games anymore.

neugey 10-19-2014 05:23 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Officiating has gotten a lot worse this year. There is a lot of 'home cooking' going on throughout the league. That 49ers/Chiefs game the other week was a total fix.

WillSaints81 10-19-2014 07:28 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Well it wasn't home cooking in Chicago and San Diego today.

voodooido 10-19-2014 07:34 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I opened this expecting you to fuss about the way the Saints played. I had names to call you ready and everything! But after reading your post I agree. It is no longer the football we all remember. That's one of the reasons I no longer watch like I use too. I got off work today at 12:30 and instead of watching the game I went and took a nap. Gone are the days where you could tackle with force. Here are the days of pushing a player to the ground. The NFL is on the way out for sure. Either someone takes over and fixes this or they need to bring back the USFL.

hagan714 10-19-2014 07:53 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
telling yall the long term goal of the NFL is to merge with the CFL. that is why the rules are starting look so much alike.

saintsfan1976 10-19-2014 07:55 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 619731)
I'm sorry didn't i say all i can say is AAGGHHHHH!!!!!

you forgot "run the damn ball"

WHODATINCA 10-19-2014 08:16 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 619731)
I'm sorry didn't i say all i can say is AAGGHHHHH!!!!!

And, it's all Drew's fault.

Halo 10-19-2014 08:34 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I am a lifelong football fan since I was in diapers and actually was at Tulane stadium. We went to Tulane stadium not only to watch the Saints, but to go see Tulane and high school football games. By the time I was 8 we started going to Baton Rouge to watch LSU football games.

My dad was/is a charter season ticket holder for the Saints and his seats were merged with my brother in law's family.

My brothers and I have always watched MLB in the off-season. This year we started road tripping to watch the Astros and Rangers play. We're not definitive fans of either team, but we're fans of the MLB.

Baseball is a much purer game where balls are either in or out, and umpires tend to call professional games. The level of subjectivity in officiating is not even 1/2 of what the NFL has become.

Everyone is right here when they say the game has become very subjective and oddly enough, I too find myself not enjoying it. NFL refs have become an avenue for Roger Goodell and the NFL's "agenda" with hits to the head and concussions - a problem caused by the NFL. The off-field drama of players and now politics that have made it to the game have done nothing by repulse me.

I feel the NFL, and football in general, may slip away within our lifetime. I appreciate the discussion in this thread.

bobdog86 10-19-2014 08:44 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
If you think we got the humpin today, anyone see the Seachicken, non-fumble call at the end of their game? Holy crap, don't get me wrong anytime I can see the the chickens lose, I'm a happy boy, but wow, they got hosed. The officiating is sketchy at best. I believe thats why every network has an old crusty retired official on the phone, just so they justify/rationale the putrid calls on the field.

lsutigerfan 10-19-2014 08:51 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
It is what it is, it's still the greatest game on the planet. I will never turn in my NFL card.

neugey 10-19-2014 08:53 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 619764)
I am a lifelong football fan since I was in diapers and actually was at Tulane stadium. We went to Tulane stadium not only to watch the Saints, but to go see Tulane and high school football games. By the time I was 8 we started going to Baton Rouge to watch LSU football games.

My dad was/is a charter season ticket holder for the Saints and his seats were merged with my brother in law's family.

My brothers and I have always watched MLB in the off-season. This year we started road tripping to watch the Astros and Rangers play. We're not definitive fans of either team, but we're fans of the MLB.

Baseball is a much purer game where balls are either in or out, and umpires tend to call professional games. The level of subjectivity in officiating is not even 1/2 of what the NFL has become.

Everyone is right here when they say the game has become very subjective and oddly enough, I too find myself not enjoying it. NFL refs have become an avenue for Roger Goodell and the NFL's "agenda" with hits to the head and concussions - a problem caused by the NFL. The off-field drama of players and now politics that have made it to the game have done nothing by repulse me.

I feel the NFL, and football in general, may slip away within our lifetime. I appreciate the discussion in this thread.

Good points. The MLB has been gaining ground. They opened up the strike zone and allowed the game to actually be fair again. The NFL could take a few lessons from the MLB and learn that not everything has to be offense offense offense.

Tennis is the sport I take solace in when NFL has too much drama and BS. Or I'll fire up Madden which has its own BS but at least the game isn't about the refs and game stoppages.

SmashMouth 10-19-2014 09:34 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 619764)
I am a lifelong football fan since I was in diapers and actually was at Tulane stadium. We went to Tulane stadium not only to watch the Saints, but to go see Tulane and high school football games. By the time I was 8 we started going to Baton Rouge to watch LSU football games.

My dad was/is a charter season ticket holder for the Saints and his seats were merged with my brother in law's family.

My brothers and I have always watched MLB in the off-season. This year we started road tripping to watch the Astros and Rangers play. We're not definitive fans of either team, but we're fans of the MLB.

Baseball is a much purer game where balls are either in or out, and umpires tend to call professional games. The level of subjectivity in officiating is not even 1/2 of what the NFL has become.

Everyone is right here when they say the game has become very subjective and oddly enough, I too find myself not enjoying it. NFL refs have become an avenue for Roger Goodell and the NFL's "agenda" with hits to the head and concussions - a problem caused by the NFL. The off-field drama of players and now politics that have made it to the game have done nothing by repulse me.

I feel the NFL, and football in general, may slip away within our lifetime. I appreciate the discussion in this thread.

I thought this was your second fav sport!?!

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RailBoss 10-19-2014 11:35 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Boy those Glory Day's didn't last long!

woody 10-19-2014 11:52 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I believe roger thinks he'll get everyone to love football if there's a bunch of long pass plays. By everyone, i mean people that aren't football fans yet. If you look at the receiver wrong it's pass interference. If you literally lay a finger on the qb it's roughing the passer. Pretty soon every game will be a tecmo bowl style shootout. Personally I wanna see players allowed to get excited when they score a td, and some mean mother making some hits.

Beastmode 10-20-2014 02:07 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
The game is constantly evolving, always has been but I have a lot of the same sentiment as most that the game can't be made any safer without ruining it. There is nowhere else to go. I'm still trying to understand why they even kickoff anymore. That was one of the most exciting parts of the game, knowing there was almost always a chance to break one. There is almost no chance of that now.

lee909 10-20-2014 03:37 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I cant stand Goodell but to blame him for ruining the game is short sighted imo.
His leash is held by the owners and they like what is happening so its on them imo. A friendlier game, more ad breaks and more points scored means more money in league coffers. Like most other big sports its a business first anf Sport later.
I feel the same in soccer over here, its 24/7 saturation. With multiple camera angles to see every play and the umps/refs have a harder job with having to enforce the softer rules. 20-30 years ago you would only see one angle on tv unlike todays multi angle frame by frame, you would accept calls that today look wrong.


These new softer games(both football and soccer) the saturation coverage and pri madona players push me away from big team sports and more towards my other love of combat sports. Two fighters, one ring/cage who cant just phone in a performance because they want a better contract. Yes there are issues with judges and some refs but they are great sports

MatthewT 10-20-2014 06:21 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
OK, I completely understand trying to make the game safer. But seriously, how about better equipment for the players instead of outlawing the very thing that made the game popular in the first place, and that is hard hitting???

jeanpierre 10-20-2014 09:46 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 619764)
I am a lifelong football fan since I was in diapers and actually was at Tulane stadium. We went to Tulane stadium not only to watch the Saints, but to go see Tulane and high school football games. By the time I was 8 we started going to Baton Rouge to watch LSU football games.

My dad was/is a charter season ticket holder for the Saints and his seats were merged with my brother in law's family.

My brothers and I have always watched MLB in the off-season. This year we started road tripping to watch the Astros and Rangers play. We're not definitive fans of either team, but we're fans of the MLB.

Baseball is a much purer game where balls are either in or out, and umpires tend to call professional games. The level of subjectivity in officiating is not even 1/2 of what the NFL has become.

Everyone is right here when they say the game has become very subjective and oddly enough, I too find myself not enjoying it. NFL refs have become an avenue for Roger Goodell and the NFL's "agenda" with hits to the head and concussions - a problem caused by the NFL. The off-field drama of players and now politics that have made it to the game have done nothing by repulse me.

I feel the NFL, and football in general, may slip away within our lifetime. I appreciate the discussion in this thread.

Boy, I could have wrote this - totally identify with this post...

Choupique 10-20-2014 10:02 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
i've been a saints fan since day one, and i will be till the day they cremate me.

if this is your last season as a fan, just leave now. bye. we need the disloyal, fair weather fans to leave.

i applaud your honesty in admitting you're disloyal. you should move to atlanta or dallas. you'll fit right in there.


the NFL has become "roger goodell yuppie flag football" because fans allowed that.

i blame the fans.

Saintindal 10-20-2014 10:40 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
A pivotal play in the game was when Colston was called for Pass interference on a first down catch by Cooks . I replayed it many times and don't see the PI. You can see the scripting if you are looking for it.

foreverfan 10-20-2014 10:43 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Man I was just going to say Choupique in 1...2...3... HAHAHAHA You beat me.

If you are a fan of sports in general, you have to realize there is always going to be the other teams you are playing and a lot of time they will deserve to win too. This does not affect some of us here on the board and some it does.

One thing is for sure, I will be a Saints fan and at B&G until I get banned or die.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QtGlvRLf6J...ying+Alive.jpg

Beastmode 10-20-2014 11:09 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 619804)
OK, I completely understand trying to make the game safer. But seriously, how about better equipment for the players instead of outlawing the very thing that made the game popular in the first place, and that is hard hitting???

The equipment technology is tapped. I think of it as wrapping your head with as much bubble wrap as possible and someone swinging a baseball bat as hard as they can. Sure, the outside is fine but that big mass of liquid matter inside got sloshed around. No equipment is going to stop that effect.

Utah_Saint 10-20-2014 11:27 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 619863)
The equipment technology is tapped. I think of it as wrapping your head with as much bubble wrap as possible and someone swinging a baseball bat as hard as they can. Sure, the outside is fine but that big mass of liquid matter inside got sloshed around. No equipment is going to stop that effect.

There are better helmets out there. One is an optional helmet that players can chose to wear if they want. Most chose not to wear it though because it's bigger than the standard helmet and the players feel they look like Kazoo from the Flintstones.

Football helmet design can lower concussion risk, study finds | Fox News

WHODATINCA 10-21-2014 10:46 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again, I cannot feel good about watching this game, and admiring the play of, and getting attached to players on this team, while at the same time knowing that many ( if not most ) will suffer from all kinds of physical and mental infirmities for the rest of their lives -- especially knowing that they could be disabled for the rest of their lives. Call me "soft" if you want but, that's my opinion.

I don't mind the rules that actually protect players health. That said, some of the PI calls, and other types of calls that are not really for player safety, are completely over the top and subjective. While I stay away from conspiracy theories ( for the most part without a lot a proof ) I agree that sometimes it really seems like the calls are unfair against us. On the other hand, I see calls against opponents that I think are unfair ( but I'm happy about it ).

The officials need to call the games the same way, every time, otherwise, there will continue to be discussions like this one.

Saint in Aus 10-22-2014 12:27 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
It sounds like the NFL is currently going through what the Australian Football League (AFL) is currently going through i.e. consistent tinkering of the rules that don't require fixing. In particular, changing interpretations of subjective rules. Never a good mix because it leaves fans in a state of confusion.

Much like many of you on here, I have become disheartened by how much the AFL has changed and is probbaly the prime reason I have taken to NFL so much, for something different.

I must say though, it has frustrated me at times to see yellow flags being thrown. You are actually happy if one isn't thrown such is the regularity of yellow flags.

It's hard for me to be frustrated though as I haven't seen much NFL pre this season (except for the NFL Greatest Games series). So I love the game.

Tobias-Reiper 10-24-2014 12:11 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I have not watched an entire game since September 2012. After 14 years, cancelled my NFL Ticket mid 2012. Nowadays I just tune into the Saints games here and there to see how things are going; and only through internet (not giving a red cent to the NFL ever again). SNF, MNF, TNF, don't watch at all unless the Saints are involved, and again, in small dosages, and through not DTV and not NFL Mobile.

It's harder and harder to stomach the entire NFL circus anymore.

Nowadays, I find myself rooting hard for the Royals... guess the hate for SF is still there.

Danno 10-24-2014 09:07 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I'll always watch my Saints, but I do find I'm losing interest in most other NFL games.

There was a time it didn't matter who was playing, I'd watch the whole game and enjoy it. Now there are only a few teams I enjoy watching. Now its mostly Saints, and any game that helps the Saints in the standings.

CharityMike 10-24-2014 09:56 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Since we are all being honest, I thank fantasy football for keeping me paying attention. I find im in a much better mood when the saints lose, versus in the past when I wasn't into fantasy. Fantasy football and the chance of winning money is more important to me. I still love my saints and will be here till the end but its much easier to get over when I win my match in fantasy each week.

dizzle88 10-24-2014 10:34 AM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 620692)
I'll always watch my Saints, but I do find I'm losing interest in most other NFL games.

There was a time it didn't matter who was playing, I'd watch the whole game and enjoy it. Now there are only a few teams I enjoy watching. Now its mostly Saints, and any game that helps the Saints in the standings.

Agreed.

Because I'm in the UK the Monday night games are on at 1.30am, it used to be that if I didn't have work the next day I'd stay up and watch no matter who was playing

I still get nervous about every saints game but I've lost interest in the NFL as a whole, plus I can't be bothered to stay up until 5am in the morning when our team looks like this.

I made that mistake on the Dallas game.

Papa Voodoo 10-24-2014 01:34 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
I think it will go to any play/call can be reviewed by a challenge.

OldMaid 10-26-2014 05:05 PM

Re: Seriously might be my last season as a fan
 
spkb, talk to later. You are not a fairweather fan.

Everyone else, good posts. Saints' time is drawing near. I have errands, tasks to finish first. Nerves starting to surface.

:-)


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