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Halo 10-20-2014 01:02 PM

Sean Payton: Drew Brees is least of 2-4 Saints' worries
 
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Today Coach Payton seems to be in a little better mood than his more than firey post game press conference yesterday. When asked about Drew Brees' performance yesterday, especially the giveaway INT, he had the following to say:

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"I just finished talking with him, obviously he would want to have the one interception back..."
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"We got a little more pressure and some tight man, and a few of those throwaways were smart plays," said Payton, whose team slipped to 2-4 with the Green Bay Packers headed into the Mercedes-Benz Superdome for a Sunday night game. "Yet we (have) a couple of opportunities in there to maybe fit a throw; those percentages that include that last drive where you are hoping to make a few plays.

"But for two-thirds of the game we were operating with the rhythm and efficiency that we wanted. We will get better at that clean up some of those things."
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dizzle88 10-20-2014 01:40 PM

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Obviously he'd like to have the interception back, so why does he continue to make dumb throws every week?

Has he played a week where he hasn't thrown a pick?

Halo 10-20-2014 01:53 PM

Re: Sean Payton in presser on Drew Brees
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 619932)
Obviously he'd like to have the interception back, so why does he continue to make dumb throws every week?

Has he played a week where he hasn't thrown a pick?

I thought he played a lot better. He threw a clean deep ball. He threw a crappy INT for sure. But in weeks past that would have been 3 int's. He simply grounded the ball when the play wasn't there instead of forcing it. Much rather that, but yes the INT he did throw stunk.

ikecomp 10-20-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 619932)
Obviously he'd like to have the interception back, so why does he continue to make dumb throws every week?

Has he played a week where he hasn't thrown a pick?

I'm not one of the yahoo's out there saying brees is done or needs to be replaced. I remember what it was like having bad qb's back in the day. However, the whole weekend I was just hoping and praying that brees wouldn't throw a pick.

Did anyone ask brees directly what he was looking at on that play? It appears a lot of brees pick either come from trying to make something out of nothing or not seeing where he's throwing the ball.

SaintLeonard 10-21-2014 03:00 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Drew Brees is least of 2-4 Saints' worries
 
Sean Payton is right. Everybody that's unhappy with Brees doesn't realize how good we have it right now with him.

Brees was about the only reason we even had a chance to win that game in the first place.

hagan714 10-21-2014 04:22 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Drew Brees is least of 2-4 Saints' worries
 
over all that was a hell of showing against the #1 defense in the NFL on the road. that is for a team that has develop issues of losing on the road for two year now.

what we learned is the saints defense looks pretty good against a below average Detroit offense that was without their #1 WR in the NFL. i will take it but with tempered enjoyment. GB does suffer on the road and they are 4th in the nfl for pts scored and red hot. now we will see what they can do.

i hope Rob and the front office took notes on that front 7 in Detroit.

Plus they seem to be learning how to finish a game.

It is not Drew fault alone. the entire Offense needed to step up their game in the last 5 min to win this one, same goes for the defense

we didn't they did

dizzle88 10-21-2014 04:26 AM

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The general consensus is when you have an effective running game, it makes the QB's job a little easier

So tell me, how does brees have 7 interceptions when we have the 6th best running game in the league

Because he is making stupid decisions.

2010 he threw 22 interceptions, he's on pace for roughly 20 this year

Elite QB's don't do that

The defense has been terrible all year, but brees isn't exactly playing lights out.

Mr.Riaton 10-21-2014 06:29 AM

Re: Sean Payton: Drew Brees is least of 2-4 Saints' worries
 
I'm not at all against Brees. He may not be the QB he once was, but he's still better than most in the league. That being said, I thought it was kinda strange that he lost several QB competitions at camp....actually, did he even win any? I seem to remember his accuracy wasn't that great. I know accuracy isn't everything, and he's still better than our backups, but it did raise a little red flag for me. Even though he's good at a lot of things, accuracy was one of the things that made him stand out IMO. Who knows, maybe its just a bad year for him and he'll bounce back next year, and I hope to God he does. I still think that if we get an O line like we used to have, it would definitely help him. It sure does seem like as the O lines performance started to diminish, so did Drew's.

jeanpierre 10-21-2014 06:43 AM

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His arm is not going to come back to what it was because of age and his past injury...

It was a testament to Brees' commitment to his game and modern medical technology that Dr. James Andrews' staff were able to build a new rotator cuff for him to continue his career...

The Saints took a major gamble then to sign and commit to him as the starting quarterback (Seem to remember Payton wanted to bring Romo here)...

I doubt seriously he trains at the level his rehab sx took him; in addition, having all that new found wealth of a growing family and his financial boom, he has a lot to lose personally...

And that's where I believe the real rub is; I've posted comparisons to illustrated, with some humor, to Stallone's Rocky III characater and in watching his expressions on the field, he looks like he's playing scared and not that fearless, killer-instinct quarterback we saw in the 2009 run...

Look, he's a saavy and smart quarterback and that's why he's played as well as he has; and he's been spot on in his politics in his franchise investments in the city and moving his family here during the season...

But the decline in his long-ball game, despite having one of his better deep connections to Stills than he's had in a while, plus his salary cap gobbling contract and the misdirected overpay along the offensive line to protect him is a big part why we don't smash and put teams away...

Thus exposing a neglected personnel situation on defense that is unable to protect seemingly solid leads late in games...

I would be very disappointed if he's extended beyond this current contract and we should have been developing a quarterback since he was signed to this current deal...

Cruize 10-21-2014 09:28 AM

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When you throw it 50 times a week, and the defense knows you're going to throw it 50 times a week, chances are a couple aren't going to be perfect, and most likely a defender will find his way in front of a couple. More runs. Less predictable passes. Success.

brees84 10-21-2014 09:41 AM

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Mardigras9 10-21-2014 10:25 AM

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The inability to protect Brees and move the ball in the last two possessions is a big reason for the loss. The INT was a good play by the safety, hands down. But they were getting pressure with their front and dropping everyone else back, hard to do anything in that scenario.

SaintLeonard 10-21-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 620088)
The general consensus is when you have an effective running game, it makes the QB's job a little easier

So tell me, how does brees have 7 interceptions when we have the 6th best running game in the league

Because he is making stupid decisions.

2010 he threw 22 interceptions, he's on pace for roughly 20 this year

Elite QB's don't do that

The defense has been terrible all year, but brees isn't exactly playing lights out.

I realize that. Brees isn't taking care of the ball this year like he has in past years. He hasn't really been bad in the slightest though. We're just spoiled. But take a look at the Lions game thread on here. The people saying statements like "OMG Brees is choking again" "FU Brees" "Time to look for a new QB" and other statements of the like really need to get some perspective.
You would think we have one of the worst QBs in the league reading this forum sometimes.

Rmyles 10-21-2014 12:01 PM

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I've been saying this for two years, "He's declining"! RUN THE DAMN BALL!

Danno 10-21-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 619949)
danno where are you with that stat? wait a minute didnt i say since last season drew has thrown an int in every game? hmmm.

What in the world are you talking about? Seriously, WTF is up with your nonsense?

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Rell&Gold 10-21-2014 03:17 PM

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Sometimes I start second guess if some of you actually WATCH the games that are played by the saints smbeard Drew Brees this Drew Brees that we need to start looking for a new QB his arm is in decline he's always forcing something he's in accurate blah blah blah, NO elite recievers on our team our 1 elite player was used as a decoy when he was in & our shotty o-line and Drew's the scape goat Lls on to Greenbay please

Foot Stomper 10-21-2014 05:31 PM

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He is right for the most part and would say that about any player or any coach. Payton will never call out a player or coach to the media nor should he. However, he didn't meet Drew at the numbers and wear his ear hole out a few games back because he liked the pick6. Btw....was that ever discussed by anyone? I never saw it mentioned or any video of it. The fact is very clear that Drew's turnovers have hurt us very badly this year. It is undeniable.

NOLA54 10-21-2014 05:51 PM

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"The fact is very clear that Drew's turnovers have hurt us very badly this year. It is undeniable."

This is an accurate statement. As angry as I am about Drew's INT's I would not want to give him up unless it was for Aaron Rodgers. Since that ain't gonna happen SP needs to stop being in denial about not winning on the road and make some adjustments for Drew & the offense. This team is failing us and SP is failing the team.

By the way I wouldn't give up SP either.

saintfan 10-21-2014 08:51 PM

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This thread has made me angry...

Marlboro Man 10-21-2014 10:23 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Drew Brees is least of 2-4 Saints' worries
 
Yeah and just when might you do that coach? Next year? Cause in case you haven't noticed, this year is slipping away from you. You need to get your head out you're arse and run the ball more.

WHODATINCA 10-21-2014 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 620116)

This is what I have been saying all year. Damn -- finally some numbers.

I am sick to death of the b*tching about Drew.

Guess what:

1. After this past Sunday, Drew was ranked as the #2 QB behind only Andrew Luck.

2. Our passing game is ranked #2 in the league.

3. In Fantasy Football, this week Drew Brees is the ranked as the #5 QB.
And, the only reason he wasn't #4 was because R. Wilson played CAR.

All this, behind a sh*tty O-Line that allows pressure 30% of the time.

Seriously? Child, please.

dizzle88 10-22-2014 04:53 AM

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Drew also has 7 picks in 6 games, he's not the only reason we suck but I hate how people refuse to blame him whatsoever

He made two dumbass decisions vs Tampa that almost cost us
He AND the defense screwed us in Detroit

He has not played a game yet where he hasn't thrown a pick

Brees deserves the blame aswell as the defense.

SmashMouth 10-22-2014 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 620260)
This thread has made me angry...

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Foot Stomper 10-22-2014 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 620284)
This is what I have been saying all year. Damn -- finally some numbers.

I am sick to death of the b*tching about Drew.

Guess what:

1. After this past Sunday, Drew was ranked as the #2 QB behind only Andrew Luck.

2. Our passing game is ranked #2 in the league.

3. In Fantasy Football, this week Drew Brees is the ranked as the #5 QB.
And, the only reason he wasn't #4 was because R. Wilson played CAR.

All this, behind a sh*tty O-Line that allows pressure 30% of the time.

Seriously? Child, please.

These pressure #'s are interesting. Thanks for posting. I need to review them abit more to fully understand how they come up with these. No doubt the pass rush has been getting to him but I wonder if it is the line, holding the ball a 1/2 count longer? Perhaps both? One thing is we are passing the ball 20% more than Peyton which is alot and slighty more than Brady. Asking our OL to dance all game long isn't easy. But your point is taken. I don't put much stake in #2 and #3.


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