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Danno 10-29-2014 01:34 PM

Vaccaro praises Harper, but not Jenkins
 
Vaccaro-Jenkins tension: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro praised the way that former Saints veteran Roman Harper was “selfless” and helpful to him last season even though Vaccaro’s first-round draft status presumably threatened Harper’s job security.

On the flip side, Vaccaro told The Advocate’s Ramon Antonio Vargas that it wasn’t the same case with former Saints veteran Malcolm Jenkins, whom Vaccaro felt was less welcoming.

Harper is now with the rival Carolina Panthers, who will host his former team on Thursday night. Look for more on the reunion later.

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dizzle88 10-29-2014 01:47 PM

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Harper always seemed like the team first, selfless kind of guy

I remember how Harper reacted when Vaccaro was drafted, pretty much said he's here to take my spot but together we will make the defense better

Utah_Saint 10-29-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 621801)
Harper always seemed like the team first, selfless kind of guy

I remember how Harper reacted when Vaccaro was drafted, pretty much said he's here to take my spot but together we will make the defense better

I got the same impression. Harper always seemed like team player.

SaintLeonard 10-29-2014 04:08 PM

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I haven't even been signed up with this forum for a whole year, but even in last year's season, I thought Harper got a lot of unwarranted hate around here. Probably because he's from Bama and a lot of people here are die hard LSU fans. :lol: Harper was a good player for the Saints.

Jenkins, on the other hand... He deserved every bit of his criticism.

Danno 10-29-2014 04:12 PM

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Harper was a scapegoat. Some still believe he was the reason we lost the San Fran playoff game.

SaintLeonard 10-29-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621836)
Harper was a scapegoat. Some still believe he was the reason we lost the San Fran playoff game.

That game still makes me mad. I truly believe we would have beat the Giants in the NFCCG, had we escaped SF with a win. We were utterly dominant at home that year, more so than usual.

I blame Gregg Williams for that loss.

dizzle88 10-29-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621836)
Harper was a scapegoat. Some still believe he was the reason we lost the San Fran playoff game.

People gave harper grief when something went wrong (a lot of time not his assignment) and then wouldn't give him praise when he played well

He was the main reason we won the 2013 opener when he had two turnovers, a lot of people wouldn't give him praise.

Danno 10-29-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 621838)
That game still makes me mad. I truly believe we would have beat the Giants in the NFCCG, had we escaped SF with a win. We were utterly dominant at home that year, more so than usual.

I blame Gregg Williams for that loss.

FIVE turnovers is why we lost. GW's decision to play Jenkins on Vernon Davis all game was second to that.

lee909 10-29-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621836)
Harper was a scapegoat. Some still believe he was the reason we lost the San Fran playoff game.

The early fumbles killed us
Loosing Thomas to Whitner head hunting,the kick off fumbe we just gave ourselves a mountain to climb.

Mr.Riaton 10-29-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621840)
FIVE turnovers is why we lost. GW's decision to play Jenkins on Vernon Davis all game was second to that.

I am amazed at how the five turnovers never get mentioned when talking to most Saints fans about that game. That is hands down the main reason we lost. No turnovers and that game wouldn't have even been close.

Danno 10-29-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 621869)
I am amazed at how the five turnovers never get mentioned when talking to most Saints fans about that game. That is hands down the main reason we lost. No turnovers and that game wouldn't have even been close.

Agreed, we win by 2 scores even with Jenkins and Harper manning up on Davis all game.

dizzle88 10-29-2014 06:27 PM

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Plus even with those 5 turnovers, the defense still kept us in the game

Brees pick, returned to the 5 yard line
Sproles fumble inside our own 10 yard line
PT knocked out when we were about to score and we come away empty.

Jack Vegas 10-29-2014 07:20 PM

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I've always suspected Jenkins as being kind of a me-first player, the kind of guy who will get his contract and then slack off. Or who has a really good year every once in a while just to prove himself, then goes back to being average. Not super-surprised to hear he wasn't out to help somebody who was competing with him for a job. I don't think he's a bad guy by any means though.

I always said if you could've put Harper's brain in Jenkins' body you would have a great player.

|Mitch| 10-29-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 621881)
I always said if you could've put Harper's brain in Jenkins' body you would have a great player.

We have that in Sunseri :bng:

halloween 65 10-30-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 621882)
We have that in Sunseri :bng:

I think you're right.I really like Sunseri, he's a baller.I liked Harper too.

Mr.Riaton 10-30-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 621882)
We have that in Sunseri :bng:

Not sure,but I think Sunseri is white...

Danno 10-30-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 621981)
Not sure,but I think Sunseri is white...


He is, but they share the same neck mother.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=...ng&w=350&h=254

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=...ng&w=350&h=254

ikecomp 10-30-2014 02:27 PM

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I didn't blame harper for the 49ers lost but he did cost us the 2010 Seattle game. Yep, I still haven't let it go. However, I blame Greg williams for that as well. The best thing you can do is know your players. Any scenario where you have harper playing more than 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage is an instant L. However, you put him 10 yards from the line of scrimmage and he's a much different player. That's why he looked a lot better with vacarro because he didn't have to handle a majority of the pass coverage duties.


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