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brees84 11-09-2014 03:57 PM

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Where was mike pereira on that offensive pass interference call...

LivnaLieTimay 11-09-2014 03:57 PM

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So much to be frustrated about in this game but for me it's the defense again. Seems like late in the 4th quarter this defense just can't make a play. Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit and now SF. All those games we led late and the defense gave it away.

I'm not excusing the turnovers and questionable play calling on offense but at the end of the day we had the lead and the defense once again came up small late in the game.

blackangold 11-09-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 623762)
So much to be frustrated about in this game but for me it's the defense again. Seems like late in the 4th quarter this defense just can't make a play. Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit and now SF. All those games we led late and the defense gave it away.

I'm not excusing the turnovers and questionable play calling on offense but at the end of the day we had the lead and the defense once again came up small late in the game.


We had the lead for 2 mins... the d held them to ****ty yardage but the turn overs by brees lost us another ****ung game.

90% on payton and brees

rezburna 11-09-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 623762)
So much to be frustrated about in this game but for me it's the defense again. Seems like late in the 4th quarter this defense just can't make a play. Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit and now SF. All those games we led late and the defense gave it away.

I'm not excusing the turnovers and questionable play calling on offense but at the end of the day we had the lead and the defense once again came up small late in the game.

The defense held them to a field goal and gave the ball back to the offense with time on the clock and a timeout to spare. Brees had 3 turnovers. It's all on him.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623764)
We had the lead for 2 mins... the d held them to ****ty yardage but the turn overs by brees lost us another ****ung game.

90% on payton and brees

Was that Brees fault or the O-Line who let the end whip around and hit Brees in the back?

He had the deep pass to Stills open twice, but the O-Line had trouble protecting for the extra second for Drew to release the ball...

rezburna 11-09-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623767)
Was that Brees fault or the O-Line who let the end whip around and hit Brees in the back?

He had the deep pass to Stills open twice, but the O-Line had trouble protecting for the extra second for Drew to release the ball...

Man Brees stood in the damn pocket for at least 5 Mississippi's. He need 10 seconds to throw the ball now? He lost it for us.

jeanpierre 11-09-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AliJee (Post 623760)
This game want good for my heart and we didn't win makes it worse ... on to next week

Ali...

Learned a loooong time ago, turn it off and walk away when it upsets you that badly...

Example, I haven't watched MainStream News since the Clinton Administration...

Despite some here hating and venting on other brothers, sisters here, we all care and want the best for out team...

Now most here all are better GM's than Loomis and have different ideas how to make the team better...

But just remember, this is entertainment with a Commissioner compensated greater than most third world countries who cowardly suspends individuals for their failure to defend the shield even though he is guilty of same...

I'm not gonna let something that has that f*ckup of a person in charge of it upset me like that...

Know we're not in proximity, but I'm gonna open a Dos Equis Lager Fellas...

Cheers, Great Afternoon...

And, Mitch, Have A Great Week, Brother...I'll post with ya'll during the week...
:bng:

W. Kovacs 11-09-2014 04:07 PM

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Payton and Ryan cost us this game.

It's true that Drew turns the ball over too much but a lot of that is because 1) the play calling is awful (throw it on 3rd and 2 in OT? Really?). 2) He gets no protection (he couldnt have even thrown it away on that last play: he was totally swamped). And 3) He knows the Defense can't stop a kitty cat.

brees84 11-09-2014 04:10 PM

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In recent years our clock management has been very poor. (Brees and Payton) . It is something that can and must be fixed.

Sarik 11-09-2014 04:11 PM

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Defense played great 2nd half & OT, but the game should have never got to OT...Corey White should never have gave up that piss poor 51 yard bomb. I understand kenny was in cover 2 & had the top, but he did his job & corey left crabtree completey thinkin the play was over. Not trying to pick on the kid, but most of the 9ers production went 24's way.

Hats off to Keenan & his tremendous effort but one can wonder wat could have been if he was in on that last 4th & long on crabtree to prevent OT.

Offense didnt play the most spectacular game, but i gotta say when it comes down to it this loss is also attributed to the Horrible playcalling in OT. Why in the world did we not Run the ball?!? We should have had the same mimdset as the tampa bay OT finish. 2nd & 6 & we play 5 wide!?!?? Forcing us to throw again on 3rd! Run the ball, felt as if we were playing from behind at that point again. Smh.

I am proud of the way we overcame adversity early & nearly pitched a shutout in the 2nd half. Tough loss to swallow.

Well i need to get me some food to free my mind haha. Lets get the next one guys. Whodat

blackangold 11-09-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623767)
Was that Brees fault or the O-Line who let the end whip around and hit Brees in the back?

He had the deep pass to Stills open twice, but the O-Line had trouble protecting for the extra second for Drew to release the ball...

he had 5 secs to throw the ball... should have ran it for the first down he had open field. It wasn't just that play, before the half we had an easy FG but Brees throws a pick, starting the game with a pick which turns into 7 for SF. Brees has been doing this **** all year. He is almost on pace for the most INTs of his career and is on pace for the most turnovers. Sick of watching our star QB throw games away when he should be the one winning them.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623781)
he had 5 secs to throw the ball... should have ran it for the first down he had open field. It wasn't just that play, before the half we had an easy FG but Brees throws a pick, starting the game with a pick which turns into 7 for SF. Brees has been doing this **** all year. He is almost on pace for the more INTs of his career and is on pace for the most turnovers. Sick of watching our star QB throw games away when he should be the one winning them.

Just go ahead and skip the defensive miscues on your mission to place all the blame on Drew... Or forget the unneeded "push-off" from Graham who could have caught it without it... Or the few drops which could have kept drives going...

blackangold 11-09-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623782)
Just go ahead and skip the defensive miscues on your mission to place all the blame on Drew... Or forget the unneeded "push-off" from Graham who could have caught it without it...

10% on the Defense.

SF had 10 pts off of Brees turnovers.

Held them to 330 total yards, only 186 passing yards.

We can blame the refs all we want but that call could have went either way, I don't like it but that's the truth.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623783)
We can blame the refs all we want but that call could have went either way, I don't like it but that's the truth.

I'm not blaming the refs; it was the proper call. Anytime a receivers arms are extended, it's a push-off. Sometimes they're called, sometimes not... That was all on Graham

rezburna 11-09-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623783)
10% on the Defense.

SF had 10 pts off of Brees turnovers.

Held them to 330 total yards, only 186 passing yards.

We can blame the refs all we want but that call could have went either way, I don't like it but that's the truth.

Bingo. And at least 3 points off the scoreboard for us because of Brees pick in the end zone when we were in field goal range after our "bad" defense got us a turnover.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623783)
10% on the Defense.

Really? 4th and forever and Kaepernick throws a 50+ yard pass they score a TD on, a lot more than 10%

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:25 PM

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I'm not arguing anymore; a loss is a loss and EVERYONE could have done more...

AliJee 11-09-2014 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 623770)
Ali...

Learned a loooong time ago, turn it off and walk away when it upsets you that badly...

Example, I haven't watched MainStream News since the Clinton Administration...

Despite some here hating and venting on other brothers, sisters here, we all care and want the best for out team...

Now most here all are better GM's than Loomis and have different ideas how to make the team better...

But just remember, this is entertainment with a Commissioner compensated greater than most third world countries who cowardly suspends individuals for their failure to defend the shield even though he is guilty of same...

I'm not gonna let something that has that f*ckup of a person in charge of it upset me like that...

Know we're not in proximity, but I'm gonna open a Dos Equis Lager Fellas...

Cheers, Great Afternoon...

And, Mitch, Have A Great Week, Brother...I'll post with ya'll during the week...
:bng:

Well said! Our overpaid QB had some glaring bone headed plays but he also had some god like unbelievable plays that kept us in it after having our behinds kicked for all of the first half.. As for entertainment the saints make Sundays great!

Have a good JP time! I'm off to work !

blackangold 11-09-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623787)
Really? 4th and forever and Kaepernick throws a 50+ yard pass they score a TD on, a lot more than 10%

So where does your percentage go then?

I don't know why I get so pissed off at Brees, maybe because I think he is responsible for most of our loses. I just expect better from him than what we have seen this year. His 2012 season was more acceptable than this ****.

Edit:

Having said all this, we still make the playoffs at 7-9 lol.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623790)
So where does your percentage go then?

Why do I need to analyze the percentages? It's a loss on the "complete" team...

LivnaLieTimay 11-09-2014 04:30 PM

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Look, this was a total team loss. Really can point to all phases of the game and say they played a role. But at the end of the day we allowed them to convert a 4th and 10 that would of ended the game. For me, that's the play that leaves me shaking my head. It's just frustrating because it seems like it's happened so much this year. 4 out of 5 losses we had the lead with under 2 minutes to go. We have to learn how to close out games.

With all that being said, thank goodness we play in the NFC South.

brees84 11-09-2014 04:31 PM

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On the bright side, Humber played well.


Goodwin vs Lelito? I really don't know why they go back to Goodwin after solid perfomances from Lelito.

blackangold 11-09-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623792)
Why do I need to analyze the percentages? It's a loss on the "complete" team...

Every loss can be called that way...

Not going to argue with you today about it, you have your opinion and i'll have mine.

I still think we can get to 10-6... if we clean it up.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 623795)
On the bright side, Humber played well.


Goodwin vs Lelito? I really don't know why they go back to Goodwin after solid perfomances from Lelito.

I think Humber starts next year... Lelito should start now...

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623796)
Every loss can be called that way...

Well last time I checked, it is a team game... You can put all the blame on Drew when he loses a one on one basketball game... :rofl:

brees84 11-09-2014 04:41 PM

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If we had more guys like Keenan...

That guy is natural born leader.

blackangold 11-09-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623798)
Well last time I checked, it is a team game... You can put all the blame on Drew when he loses a one on one basketball game... :rofl:

cop-out answer

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623804)
cop-out answer

how is the truth a cop-out answer?

Quote:

cop–out noun \ˈkäp-ˌau̇t\
: an excuse for not doing something

: something that avoids dealing with a problem in an appropriate way

blackangold 11-09-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623805)
how is the truth a cop-out answer?

Feel free to have a different opinion than mine.

I think Brees and Payton have made some uncharacteristic mistakes which have lead to costly loses this year. I am not sure what you think as you have not purposed any argument aside from straw-man tactics.

But as I said before, I am not going to argue with you.

brees84 11-09-2014 05:23 PM

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Cooks is important piece on our offense and I understand why he isn't returning kicks. But we should find some guy that is more dangerous than Cadet. In this game there were some opportunities for big plays and he constantly run for minimal yardage. At least they come cheap.

blackangold 11-09-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 623819)
Cooks is important piece on our offense and I understand why he isn't returning kicks. But we should find some guy that is more dangerous than Cadet. In this game there were some opportunities for big plays and he constantly run for minimal yardage. At least they come cheap.

I don't think Cooks should be on the PR team. He is the leagues worst PR right now. Not all his fault.

I would like to see more running plays with Cooks. We had so much success with those but they are rare, too rare.

Audiotom 11-09-2014 07:19 PM

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9 points
4 losses in the last minutes by 9 total points

The team is better than this

Hold your position on 4th and long

I was at the game
What is Keenan Lewis' status?
He really toughed it out to play the #2 receiver after being hurt

Audiotom 11-09-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 623846)
I don't think Cooks should be on the PR team. He is the leagues worst PR right now. Not all his fault.

I would like to see more running plays with Cooks. We had so much success with those but they are rare, too rare.


I want to see them do more vertical speed plays will cooks
He was pulling away on that td

dizzle88 11-09-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 623848)
9 points
4 losses in the last minutes by 9 total points

The team is better than this

Hold your position on 4th and long

I was at the game
What is Keenan Lewis' status?
He really toughed it out to play the #2 receiver after being hurt

Corey white once again blowing an assignment, where have we seen that before

He and Kenny vaccaro need to be cut after their performances this year, corey may have two picks but they were both on plays where he had lost the receiver and it got tipped

Entire team besides Ingram, Graham, lewis and lofton are garbage.

brees84 11-09-2014 09:00 PM

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Anyone watching Chicago? That should be our best away game in recent years. Probably the worst defense we will face the entire year.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 09:06 PM

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Haters of Drew Brees; y'all should be thankful, you could be stuck with a QB like Cutler! :rofl:

K Major 11-09-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 623864)
Anyone watching Chicago? That should be our best away game in recent years. Probably the worst defense we will face the entire year.

They are down right awful.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 09:19 PM

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A 40-burger at half-time... the NFL needs a mercy rule... :shock:

lsutigerfan 11-09-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 623865)
Haters of Drew Brees; y'all should be thankful, you could be stuck with a QB like Cutler! :rofl:

That's what Drew is turning into.

|Mitch| 11-09-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 623873)
That's what Drew is turning into.

You can't be serious; you need to let the depression from the loss fade and post with a clear head...


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