Why we gotta Sign Julio Jones
 

Look as much as we'd like , Sean Payton is NOT going to change for anyone. So if he refuses to run on 2nd and 3 and 3rd and 3 and is dead set on throwing the flipping ball , why not enhance Drews Options ?

Yes we have a Steve Smith reincarnation in Cooks

Yes we have a Henderson Clone in Stills

Yes we have the closest thing to Lebron James at Tight End

But we Do not have a true No.1 guy that demands an immense amount attention. We DO NOT have a guy that can hand Sherman his hind parts play in and out.

Colston has been Old reliable for us , but not so much as of late. If we are really trying to ease him out not a better guy can be his replacement. Same size but more speed power and catches everything.

Julio will be looking to leave Atlanta. No coach no system no organization and I'm sure he's thought about what he could accomplish looking up at us.

We will have to part ways with familiar faces to make room but that's on the agenda anyways , nothing is worth holding onto that much that Julio Jones won't be a saint.

Laugh all you want , but Julio Cooks and Graham trips right with stills Left and Ingram in the backfield would be no joke.

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Can't pretend it wouldn't be great but I don't think we'd have enough cap space to sign him

If we want to keep Ingram we need to be competitive with his contract
100 million dollar man in Brees
56 million dollar hospital bed in Jairus Byrd

Only way we afford to make a big signing would be multiple restructures or cutting quite a few players

The trouble with that is Loomis has backloaded so many contracts that were may be up **** street in 2015 and 2016 with brees, Byrd and Graham's contracts all back loaded.

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Why? Those back-loaded contracts will be restructured when needed...

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I'm sold, but honestly we could probably sign two above average CBs or LBs for what he'll want

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Seriously??? With our secondary and O line issues? WR is the last thing we need. Give Brees the time he needs, and Stills, Graham, Cooks, Colston, Lorig/Johnson,PT, and now Ingram are plenty. Brees put up record breaking numbers without a true #1 receiver. We need a #2 corner bad....hell, even a #3 corner also. Our secondary sucks a$$.

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...add some LB'S to that list also

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Give me CB opposite Lewis and mean LB who can cover.

I'm tired of 5 year projects. lol

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Linebacker's should be priority ONE this off season.

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Would LOVE to have him. No question.

But we need LBs worse that WRs. I mean, it'd be nice to score 40 a game, but it'd also be really nice if we could stop the other team from scoring 30 a game.

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No Psychotherapy could shock Julio back from the nightmares in Atlanta.

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And don't forget the draft. :bng:

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We'll have plenty of money next year. I don't even think Colston will be back. I'm positive Brees will restructure after this down year. And we'll make some other needed moves.

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^^

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WRs don't matter in the Sean Payton system.

The WRs in Payton's system only need speed on the big PA fakes. The passing game is based on finding the zone soft spot and sitting down in it. This is why man cover teams give us so many problems. Jones would be a waste in our system. Cooks is an amazing WR and extremely elusive but he never finds space because most of the routes require him to find the zone and sit down. When a WR is searching for the zone he isn't getting separation from man coverage.

Personally I would love to see a vertical passing attack but unless we change our scheme having Jones might be a waste IMO.

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It's not that easy to do when defenses get fined for touching a player and of course the penalties are not all right. We could play great defense and then give a team free yards because of a penalty.

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Teams like Seattle and SF though have exploited that. That no longer works against them. We did not play bad yesterday the second half. It's just a matter of seeing what a game changer like Boldin can do when its crunch time. Thats why that play was converted. If Boldin was not on the team that does not happen.

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Cooks has the potential to be our #1 receiver.

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More chance of waiting another year and going after AJ Green, some of the big contracts likes of Colston,Grubbs,Evans,Lofton,Bunkley etc contracts are at a point when the dead money is small enough for cuts. Other contracts like Byrd,Graham,Galette can be redone.

Anyway Cam Jordan comes first

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And Ingram, I definitely think we need to keep him.

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No we won't.
Brees will restructure but that just screws us further down the line

If we cut the following players we will be paying them to play elsewhere

Colston - $5.4ml
Evans - $5ml
Lofton - $5ml

We are well over the cap and still need to get Cam under contract,we have Ingram without a deal and Robinson in the last year of the deal.
The year after the dead money on alot of contracts opens up the chance to cut older players

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We have two turnover machines on the team

One of them in a bad way - Brees
The other in a sarcastic way - Jairus Byrd

And we're going to be paying Brees 23-26 mil to watch him throw into triple coverage.

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Cooks is on an inexpensive rookie deal and has the potential to be a number one receiver.

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Ingram > Cam at this point.

Love Cam (look at avatar), but the guy needs to be consistent and right now the only people he is beating are UDFAs and other band-aid tackles.

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Our scouts are bad. Sometimes Payton pulls these guys more than the scouts do. I think we have to start looking in the conferences that produce NFL talent such as SEC, ACC, and Big 12(RBs, WRs, pass rushers). Arizona and Stanford produce NFL talent as well in the Pac 12. I think Ohio State may be better now than I thought with Meyer. Because with Tressel they produced NFL busts. Or maybe they did not want to play for us(Jenkins). But Roby and Hyde are doing well when given the chance. If we get anyone outside of these conferences and schools we are taking chances. Sedrick Ellis and Fortt came from pac 12's highly loved USC and UCLA. And neither worked out for us. I mean I'm talking NFL ready not needing development. Fortt may be good a few years from now but he is not NFL ready.

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Then Brees needs to start targeting him more. We need more talent though. One isn't enough. I don't buy Stills, Meachem, Morgan and thats the rest of our main receiving core. I wouldn't mind drafting Ted Griffey or Jeremy Langford, players that won't go first round if they declare. We have no shot at Cooper.

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Until our O-line gets fixed we could have Jones, Fitzgerald, Bryant or any of them, it want matter.On the D until we get a NT that pushes and commands double and triple teams with an ILB that plays the run and passing downs well, we will get gashed up the middle.We also need quality depth at most positions, we don't have to many positions like that. We need alot to be honest, to much.

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We don't need a true Number one at WR.

We haven't had a true number one. Why start now.

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I don't think we're as bad off as it sounds. OG's and OC's aren't difficult to get.

We do need another WR and a big fast target similar to Julio would fit perfectly.

We don't have that many glaring holes, but we can certainly use a few upgrades at LB, CB, OG and WR. Our problems this year looked more mental than they did physical. We have a very talented team.

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I agree in some aspects but a stud C isn't easy to find that comes cheap unless drafted ,OG's either.Totally agree about a Jones type(physical WR) but I think our D front line is more of a concern( got to stop points from being score) a stud NT and lb, that are studs will be needed there. CB I believe we can find 1 in FA that can be a true #2. We also have to have solid depth for rotation and if any started goes down. On the O-line that is a real problem, this years draft is going to be key to a great year, last years was not impressive, Cooks(who I do like) is not a Bryant or Jones type(physical) and to me fits the slot more than a big go to WR that can muscle their way into position, he relise on speed and cutting ability which he does do that well but a 1st and a 3rd givin up, no. Unless a lightbulb comes on in SJB's head soon a 2nd was way high not saying it was a bad pick but with a team trying to win now that pick was a win now pick. I could ramble for awhile about other things those are my mains for the moment.I believe it all starts in the trenches and thats where we need to start with picks and FA.

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Thats why I said we could get those receivers later and spend our first and second on olineman.

Yeah we need a lot. We need to decide where we want to be dominant at I think and let the other work itself out.

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Because the NFL has changed and when we were winning all those games most teams we played did not have big time receivers. Now teams can burn us with a big receiving play to change the game like Crabtree last week and Green this week. Yeah we could win the same way on offense like in the past but our defense can't play like 2009 and 2010 against the type of offenses we play today. And the better defenses also have playmakers.