Seriously wanted to help the board out with what you saw today
 

Stop worrying about this or that, arguing over petty things. We stink, that's the answer. We just stink

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Ingram, PT, KRob, Lelito, Cooks, JGraham, Lewis, Armstead, Morstead, SGraham, Strief, Stills, Bush, AJohnson, Hill and Lofton don't.

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They do. They all stink, because they're all 4-6, and they all loss 27-10 at home today

Except morstead, he's good

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I think you accidentally put Lofton and Strief on that list

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Morstead had a 25 yard punt today

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Strief is good, dude. Seriously, he's a really good tackle for us

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It's popularity contest...

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Wasn't an accident. Strief is our best O-lineman. Lofton isn't great but he doesn't suck.

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Probably from the 40 yardline. Pinning them down deep, he's good. And don't correct me if I am wrong, because in my mind it wa from the 40 and we were pinning em down

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It was actually blocked but he head butted it 25 yards downfield, pinning them inside the 1.:p

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As a team...YUP. We suck. We have some good individual efforts out there, but as a collective bunch we're just a gaggle in fancy uniforms and shiny helmets.

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We can't strike quickly on offense...we throw passes to the line of scrimmage...that aren't screens.

I have no clue why we aren't explosive on offense but I'm not glued to the tv when our offense goes on the field.

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Brees lost that it factor he had.... Its gone.... not just this game but all season he just hasn't been right ....

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oline cant hold up long enough

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Yeah, not so much, but the oline is killing us.

Hey, for fans that hate Brees, and simply don't understand what we have, go ask dem Eagles fans why the grass isn't always greener. They complained about Foles all year, and oh Sanchex was gonna be great, yeah...

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Really you have noticed a drop off from Brees ?

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Is there a stat where we throw a check down pass? if so, we probably lead the league. We also lead the league in check down passes under 3 yards or less including minus yards. Brees does not get sacked, but we area not vertical enough to contend w/ our swiss cheese defense.

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First of all I don't hate Brees but he can't get all the credit when we win and none of the blame when things aren't perfect for him. Clearly either something is wrong with him or he is falling off quickly. With the passes we throw now reminds me of a Chad Pennington type of offense. People keep putting all the blame on the defense and offensive line...you only need 3 to 4 seconds to get the ball down the field but after watching this game it doesn't matter if we throw the ball down the field because it won't be accurate anyway.

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Barry said it we have Shiny Helmets you can see the dome lights reflection really bright, that's something!

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I give Brees his share of **** when he deserves it, but he is rarely off on his throws, although today he has a bad one. I watched, I think last week, two drops on pretty long throws that were on the money.

Brees made a terrible decision in the red zone last weak. I have seen him make some bad decision this year, but most times he starts that **** when he feels he has to do too much. The oline has't been good enough this year. They played well for like 2 or 3 games out of 10.

I have watched other teams and I know what other qb's look like. I am not for ever trading a hall of famer unless he can't get it done, but if we improve that oline no doubt our offense looks different again.

The thing none of us realize is how much goes into providing extra blocks because our oline is week, so when Strief is out and we have to go help out on that side, how much is that hurting our passing attack? What does that prevent us from doing? Our oline has been banged up for a few weeks and just not that great. Teams are getting pressure, and don't think for a second that the lack of sacks isn't what Drew does, because it is.

Football is the one sport, at least in my estimation, where you really have to have a team effort, not individual efforts, and right now we are not good as a team.

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It's not the O-line... It's not Brees...

It's Payton.

I have long said dating back to last year that Payton should not be calling plays and ill stick to that. Pete should be left to do his job, statistically he is better than Payton and do you remember in 2012 we had the 2nd best offense...

There is no vertical attack to Payton's game, it only comes out of the PA fake and everyone knows it.

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I think in the last two seasons our offensive line has been the worst since drew has been here.

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2012 we stunk dude and just threw all over the place because we were usually down 20 points by end of the first quarter

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Can't force it deep when teams are playing deep zone defenses against us.

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What's your point?

You also realize Carmichael, not Payton, was the play caller during our 2011 record setting year right?

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Longest completion was for 17 yards if I am not mistaken. Don't think we tried anything deep...

Teams have always played deep zones against us, it's not something new and we have beat it many times before. In the last 2 years we have seen a erosion offensively.

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Yep, but Colston was a zone killer, he's regressed and crossing patterns kill that zone too but drew doesn't have the extra second or two like he had in previous years for those patterns to develop

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Sadly not true.
4-5-NO25 (9:56) T.Morstead punts 25 yards to 5However it does not chage the fact - I say Morstead is a good punter.

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Drops and awful busted coverages. More to do with focus and discipline than talent. I think we have enough talent. At the end of the day though the Division is still open to any team that decides to pull their head out of a general part of their body right now. I still believe we have the ability to do it but another performance like last week and they might as well leave their heads right there.

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We are what are record says we are.... 4-6 Something has to change idk what but even if we do win the division we are 1 and done in the playoffs folks...

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Really? Did you watch the Packer game?

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Yeah did you watch the 49ners ? The bengals? Playing in the dome will not give us an advantage

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Morestud had a bad punt, true. But I think that may have been the first bad punt the whole season (that I can recall). His ability to kick it out of or close to out of the endzone alone is a huge advantage for our special teams. I'm not the stat guy on this board, but I know he was top of the league on averages last I heard.
Other than him, there are problems all over both sides of the ball. Obviously the problems on defense are taking a larger focus now. But the O-line giving Brees time is a close second.

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Morestead is the most stable and consistent of all our players.

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He's a punter, so its virtually irrelevant.:p

Oh, and its Morstead.

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Our helmets aren't gold enough. We been down the tubes ever since we changed to that piss water gold for the noggin caps.

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We are 0-2 since they started playing that ridiculous siren on 3rd downs in the Dome.

I know there's no stat or website that can possibly back this up but trust me, it's a juju thing, that air raid siren is bad mojo. Every time they play it, and Romig goes "it's thirrrrrdd ddoowwwwnnnnn," something BAD happens to the Saints.

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Yes, can we lose that stoopid, stoopid siren? Geebus. Bad enough teams are knocking out 3rd and long constantly, but that stoopid siren don't help at all.

It's almost as annoying as that stoopid Viking horn-thingy.

"Nip it...in...the...bud!" ~Officer Fife

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I like how every team had a bye then plays us...

CINCI- TNF game which basically is a mini bye week.
BAL- Bye week before us.
PIT-Bye week before us.

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stink? nah we do not stink, well like an infirmary maybe, the only thing i see that stinks is the defensive choices of a couple of players and coaches.