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Schmohams 11-16-2014 10:09 PM

Our two options
 
If you had told me these were the two options at the beginning of the season I'd have scoffed at you and called you an idiot as the Saints were primed for a superbowl year. With the safety position depleted after the loss of Rafael Bush I have lost every speckle of hope I had going into the Bengals game. I see no strength, leadership, or sync in this team. Considering the holes in this team I would prefer a higher pick and not make the playoffs.

Halo 11-16-2014 10:32 PM

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Problem is we probably gonna finish behind Atlanta without any option because I don't see this team winning more than 2 or three more games tops right now.

RailBoss 11-16-2014 11:39 PM

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I'm thinking the same thing Carolina & Tampa and maybe Atlanta
in the Dome maybe!

12 11/24 vs. Bal 7:30 PM CT
13 11/30 @ Pit 12:00 PM CT
14 12/7 vs. Car 12:00 PM CT
15 12/15 @ Chi 7:30 PM CT
16 12/21 vs. Atl 12:00 PM CT
17 12/28 @ TB 12:00 PM CT

|Mitch| 11-16-2014 11:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 625453)
I'm thinking the same thing Carolina & Tampa and maybe Atlanta
in the Dome maybe!

The said thing is, say we win the last three division games; that could put us in the playoffs :doh:

I voted for the playoffs, come on no one wants to see the team give up and strive for a lower draft pick...

nola_swammi 11-17-2014 02:27 AM

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Hmm!!!! A higher draft pick or a extra week to be miserable from a lost if we made the playoffs.... Very tempting but I have hope if they were to get into playoffs they could win it all

SloMotion 11-17-2014 06:01 AM

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Well, there's no 'Andrew Luck' coming out in this year's draft (as far as I know), so you might as well "play to win", eh? :neutral:.

MatthewT 11-17-2014 06:27 AM

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We are talking the NFL, professionals always play to win no matter what. Now as a fan, I hope the Saints can win the division and get into the playoffs. The biggest issue going into next year isn't the need for a high draft pick, it is the need to figure out a way to get out of the salary cap mess they are in.

Danno 11-17-2014 08:32 AM

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Funny, this sounds exactly like the Bengals board before the Saints game.

Y'all are welcome back on board after we defeat the Ravens.

hagan714 11-17-2014 08:32 AM

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win the division for the love of god. it is still in reach

I have not heard the fat lady sing yet
did you hear the fat lady?
anyone here hear a fat lady?

the race is still on

SaintsBro 11-17-2014 09:18 AM

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It is a no-brainer and don't even hesitate, always always always pick the division win and the playoff game, no matter what.

Because it's another banner for hanging in the rafters of the Dome, to put next to the other ones. Then you can point to it and tease visiting Falcons and Panthers fans before the game. In 4 years, nobody will remember the crappy record it took to get it, but they will always see the banner and know we have another division title up there, that we were better than the Falcons.

We need as much fabric hanging in the rafters of the Dome as we can get. That's called history.

neugey 11-17-2014 11:04 AM

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Go for the playoffs. We'll get a middling draft pick anyway because the Jags, Raiders, Bucs and Jets will all likely pick ahead of us.

Cruize 11-17-2014 11:20 AM

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Screw the draft. I want the Saints to win.

xan 11-17-2014 11:27 AM

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I'd like the Saints to win, too, but the writing has been on the wall since September 7.

Lose. Lose hard. Showing up should do it.

SaintsBro 11-17-2014 11:47 AM

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I also think option 3 would be a good move, too, although I'm pretty sure Payton and Loomis wouldn't go for it because (a) it would make sense and (b) it would mean admitting they had draft problems in the past. Option #3 is, trade DOWN in the draft, give away something to get MORE picks, regardless of where ever position we end up.

This team has so many needs next year, it really could use as many picks as it can possibly scrounge up right now. This means maybe even giving away their best pick or someone good, in order to get a bunch of smaller, less flashy, mid level picks to plug some needed holes. But instead Payton and Loomis will probably do the usual "OCD" reach for some new shiny object, and give away the farm, giving up a whole lot for trading up a couple spots, to grab a darling wide receiver or precious running back. It's basically either give up something to get more draft picks to rebuild, or else hope that surrounding Drew with a whole team full of UDFA's from small nowhere schools can somehow end up being good enough to win a few games.

Rugby Saint II 11-17-2014 01:17 PM

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Right now I want to win! If we continue a downward spiral then I'm thinking draft picks just until we can bounce back.

Edit: This team doesn't draft as well later in the round. We need an early draft choice to get top talent because we don't seem to evaluate talent very well.

Barry from MS 11-17-2014 03:05 PM

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Good LAWD...draft pick? A higher draft pick? What in the wild, wild world of sports is a goin' on here?

It's the middle of November and we are 4-6. The NFC South leader is (gasp!) 4-6. You would have thought we were at least 2-3 games out of 1st place with 4 games to go...

And what in the world will higher drafts picks do for us next year with a team riddled with dysfunction this year?

But nothing cures dysfunction like winning a division, which is still there for the taking. With 6 games left.

SloMotion 11-17-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 625637)
... What in the wild, wild world of sports is a goin' on here? ...

What the Vinko "agony of defeat" Bogataj?!?! I'm not making light of the situation, just always have a knee-jerk reaction to that phrase, "wild world of sports" ... it was the only game in town for broadcast sports back in the day, :lol:. I like this intro because it was updated to show the 1980 US Olympic hockey team, :).


UK_WhoDat 11-17-2014 03:49 PM

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Whatever, I can never hope the Saints do badly. In the history of time, I wanna see Saints Divisional champions. My goodness we don't seem to deserve it but there is an old truth - you can only beat what is in front of you. If, for whatever reason, we win the Division, I will take it big time. Better that, always. And better that especially than coming 2nd or 3rd in a bad year.

WHODATINCA 11-17-2014 07:07 PM

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We are just flying under the radar, right now. If we go down, we do it trying to win.

Boutte 11-17-2014 07:18 PM

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The draft is a crapshoot anyway. We should shoot for as many picks as we can get.

(And always play for the best record we can get.)

foreverfan 11-17-2014 09:03 PM

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I vote for 5-11 and win the division and win the Superbowl.

SloMotion 11-18-2014 05:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 625708)
We are just flying under the radar, right now. If we go down, we do it trying to win.

Exactly right, :neutral: ... who's that member with the quote, "we may lose the game but you'll be hurting in the morning" at the bottom of all their posts? That's the mindset you gotta' have at this point, IMO. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 625738)
I vote for 5-11 and win the division and win the Superbowl.

That's right, own it. You get the same trophy whether you're the 5-11 Division champs or the 12-4 Division champs. It's not a question of why you're there, how you got there or even if you deserve to be there ... the opportunity has presented itself, so you might as well just get there, :).

Danno 11-18-2014 06:17 PM

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I'd imagine one of the top 5 moments in Seahawk history is their 7-9 Seahawks knocking off the heavily favored Saints.

I'm hoping we do the same, hopefully to the 49ers, Seahawks or Cowboys.

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 06:36 PM

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One thing is for sure, if we won the division at .500 or worse and then won a playoff game... The NFL would definitely change the playoff rules in the offseason because it was us.

Mardigras9 11-19-2014 03:39 PM

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Hell yes shoot for the playoffs. That means the rest of our division are watching at home. Even though it would probably be a short playoff run, it's a playoff run with no pressure, because nobody would be picking us.

SaintFanQ 11-19-2014 04:58 PM

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Playoffs every time, no question!

You can pick up what is seen to be a great draft player only for them to become a bust. It happens so often in this league.

GEAUX SAINTS!!!

Seer1 11-19-2014 06:15 PM

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However, we should pick up any good surgeons who show up on the draft boards...

Utah_Saint 11-19-2014 11:52 PM

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The Saints have had plenty of high draft picks. They don't guarantee success and they're nothing to be proud of.

The Saints haven't had many division wins in their history. A banner beats no banner no matter what the record is.

billyt81 11-22-2014 06:43 PM

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Playoffs! I agree that this team is majorly flawed but if we got in at 6-10 we'd be dangerous. Drew Brees would love to be the one to win a title with that record.

NOLA54 11-22-2014 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 625513)
win the division for the love of god. it is still in reach

I have not heard the fat lady sing yet
did you hear the fat lady?
anyone here hear a fat lady?

the race is still on

I do hear her warming up.

NOLA54 11-22-2014 07:58 PM

Re: Our two options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 625933)
One thing is for sure, if we won the division at .500 or worse and then won a playoff game... The NFL would definitely change the playoff rules in the offseason because it was us.

I have no doubt they would change the playoff rules.

iceshack149 11-22-2014 08:19 PM

Re: Our two options
 
I hate these questions. I'd hate to be someone that watches his favorite team and cheer for them to lose. I can't grasp that.

RailBoss 11-24-2014 12:32 AM

Re: Our two options
 
Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post

win the division for the love of god. it is still in reach

I have not heard the fat lady sing yet
did you hear the fat lady?
anyone here hear a fat lady?

the race is still on

Maybe the Fat Lady is actually Rob Ryan, close enough...maybe


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