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ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 08:07 AM

The FS Conundrum
 
Since we currently don't have a single healthy free safety on the roster let's talk about our options.

I saw the other thread talking about Marcus Ball getting the start and that scares the heck out of me. He strikes me as purely a traditional strong safety that has been put in the old Roman Harper role.

I think Corey White got some reps at safety during training camp which seems fortuitous on our coaching staffs part. Problem is that we're already pretty weak at CB as is so in this scenario we'd see a whole lot more Dixon/P Rob and maybe even some Jean-Baptiste.

A lot of people want Pierre Warren back. That's not a bad idea. I don't think the coaching staff disliked him... We were just set at FS with Byrd and Bush.

Any free agents out there worth a look? I know Jordan Pugh was with us last season. Today's tryout Tuesday so we'll find out soon who might be under consideration. Let's hear your thoughts.

Danno 11-18-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 625783)
Since we currently don't have a single healthy free safety on the roster let's talk about our options.

I saw the other thread talking about Marcus Ball getting the start and that scares the heck out of me. He strikes me as purely a traditional strong safety that has been put in the old Roman Harper role.

I think Corey White got some reps at safety during training camp which seems fortuitous on our coaching staffs part. Problem is that we're already pretty weak at CB as is so in this scenario we'd see a whole lot more Dixon/P Rob and maybe even some Jean-Baptiste.

A lot of people want Pierre Warren back. That's not a bad idea. I don't think the coaching staff disliked him... We were just set at FS with Byrd and Bush.

Any free agents out there worth a look? I know Jordan Pugh was with us last season. Today's tryout Tuesday so we'll find out soon who might be under consideration. Let's hear your thoughts.

This has the potential to be disastrous. Basically we have two Roman Harper's on the roster. I think we may see White moved to FS. I hope Ryan has a few old dogs with some gas left in the tank looking for some part time work.

We worked out a bunch of safeties a couple of weeks ago. I'd imagine we'll see one signed today. Rambo perhaps?

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 625795)
This has the potential to be disastrous. Basically we have two Roman Harper's on the roster. I think we may see White moved to FS. I hope Ryan has a few old dogs with some gas left in the tank looking for some part time work.

We worked out a bunch of safeties a couple of weeks ago. I'd imagine we'll see one signed today. Rambo perhaps?

I think Rambo was signed by the Bills a few days ago. Heck, I was even looking at the Jets practice squad to see if Rex had a guy he might recommend to his brother. It's looking grim. Might have to just bring back Jordan Pugh since he at least is familiar with Rob Ryan and figure out some kind of timeshare at the position.

Danno 11-18-2014 09:49 AM

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From a few weeks back...

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Bacarri Rambo, safety Brandon Taylor according to the National Football Post.

Rambo, a 2013 sixth round draft pick out of Georgia, started 13 games for the Washington Redskins as a rookie but was benched for poor tackling. He was back in the starting lineup in 2014 during Brandon Meriweather's two-game suspension.

He was waived in September after allowing a 76-yard touchdown in Week 1 and a 63-yard touchdown in Week 2. Rambo has played in 45 career games with 33 starts.

Taylor, a 2012 third round draft pick from LSU, spent two seasons with the San Diego Chargers, where he played in six games with four starts, all as a rookie. Taylor spent most of his rookie season on injured reserve and was inactive for all 16 regular season games last season.

He was waived in June.
Anyone familiar with LSU's Brandon Taylor? Option?

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 10:00 AM

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So far I've only heard that we've worked out three LB's: Moise Fokou, L.J. Fort and Jerry Franklin.

K Major 11-18-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 625797)
From a few weeks back...



Anyone familiar with LSU's Brandon Taylor? Option?

Decent player in college and was a legit tackler. Not a whole lot of pop and sizzle however he was consistent in his job responsibilities. The knee injury hampered his chances to make a roster however he is definitely worth a look.

lee909 11-18-2014 10:34 AM

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dizzle88 11-18-2014 10:42 AM

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Why we ever released Pierre Warren I'll never know

Guy was a beast in training camp and preseason

Well done Payton....

Danno 11-18-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 625812)
Why we ever released Pierre Warren I'll never know

Guy was a beast in training camp and preseason

Well done Payton....

He sure was, my guess is we had Byrd, Bush and Sunseri who all play FS and only Vaccaro as a true SS so they decided to keep Ball simply because he's a pure SS.

Had we known we'd lose all 3 FS's to IR by week 10 I doubt we'd have cut him.

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 625812)
Why we ever released Pierre Warren I'll never know

Guy was a beast in training camp and preseason

Well done Payton....

It's not too late... He's only on the Vikes practice squad. Now's our chance to correct that mistake and bring him back. If we don't take advantage of this second chance then I'll shake my head.

hagan714 11-18-2014 11:04 AM

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we have not had a free safety since byrd went down

Rugby Saint II 11-18-2014 03:44 PM

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FS? SS? Can't one guy play both? I already know the answer to that.:roll:

AllSaints 11-18-2014 04:14 PM

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Champ retired today.... Maybe he could play FS ?

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 04:43 PM

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Anyone hearing anything about safeties we may have had in for workouts today? All I've seen is that we tried out a few LB's in the wake of Denver signing Todd Davis.

Barry from MS 11-18-2014 04:47 PM

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White to FS is not too bad. PRob would have to step up in that #2 CB spot, and I've like his play so far this year. We will need Dixon for nickle or SJB for nickle and dime.

SJB...I am extremely frustrated with his lack of development so don't get me started on this dude. 'Bout ready to tear this guy a new one, but I'll save that temper tantrum for another day.

KVac, Stanford, and Ball as SS. Really would like to see Ball on the field the least amount of snaps as possible. If Ball does happen to be out there more, I can't honestly have a lot of hope for even average coverage with this guy running around doing stupid crap.

And maybe, just maybe, all these secondary issues will motivate a more consistent pass rush. Hah...did I just type that?

K Major 11-18-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 625902)

SJB...I am extremely frustrated with his lack of development so don't get me started on this dude. 'Bout ready to tear this guy a new one, but I'll save that temper tantrum for another day.

It is becoming apparent that SJB is lacking the mental aptitude to play the position at this level, otherwise we would have seen a lot more of him by now.

Barry from MS 11-18-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 625907)
It is becoming apparent that SJB is lacking the mental aptitude to play the position at this level, otherwise we would have seen a lot more of him by now.

Yes, and then yes. Get the feeling he's as smart as a bag of hammers. A 2nd Round pick should get more than 8 defensive snaps through 9 games at the position he was drafted to play (don't have the snap count from the CIN game yet). Zero impact, even on special teams.

Is Dixon that good, or is SJB that bad? Maybe Dixon is a "D plus" with SJB chiming in at a healthy "F minus"...

brees84 11-18-2014 05:09 PM

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We signed Warren!!!

Barry from MS 11-18-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 625913)
We signed Warren!!!

Hope you're not chain-yanking...if you're sober, this is not funny.

brees84 11-18-2014 05:27 PM

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Barry from MS 11-18-2014 05:28 PM

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You, sir, are a bad@$$...

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 05:31 PM

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Well there we have it!! Pierre Warren is back baby! I knew we wouldn't blow that opportunity at a do-over.

Barry from MS 11-18-2014 05:35 PM

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I don't think I've ever been more excited about a dude being signed from a PS to our active roster than I am now.

Lord_Saint83 11-18-2014 06:25 PM

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My boy Warren is back I'm happier than a pig in s**t.

AllSaints 11-18-2014 07:55 PM

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Warren was a beast in Preseason... Let's see how he plays with the big kids

saintsfan1976 11-18-2014 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 625963)
Warren was a beast in Preseason... Let's see how he plays with the big kids



Our team was a beast in preseason

AllSaints 11-18-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 625965)
Our team was a beast in preseason

Very true now we are the furthest thing from beast...

ChrisXVI 11-18-2014 08:45 PM

Re: The FS Conundrum
 
It's gotta be crazy going from one team's practice squad to potentially starting for another team on Monday Night Football in the space of a week. I'm sure he won't start though, but if he does get some playing time we'll have to cut the kid some slack if he messes up. It's a wild transition.

lee909 11-18-2014 11:30 PM

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Most logical move

jnormand 11-18-2014 11:34 PM

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Thankful we signed Warren. Well...guess he gets to show what he's got.


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