Can Lorig gain a yard or break a tackle?
 

Finally watched the Bengals game on nfl rewind

Can Lorig actually gain a yard?
Those rollout passes out of the backfield were dreadful

We so need Pierre back

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Lorig has been a huge disappointment. Wonder if they'll waive him after this season.

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i am a bit surprised. but add him to the goose egg pile so far in 2014. traditional FB and TE seem to have little value to the saints

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No.

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IMO Austin Johnson looked much better this year. Too bad he had to get injured.

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Payton likes toys instead, I like smash mouth players. Seems we have quickly become the team of misfit toys.

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I agree Matthew. AJ looked like he had some ability to push the pile on the interior and had decent hands and elusiveness in the flat. Lorig has looked surprisingly plain since he's been in and nothing like the Jed Collins, Heath Evans type players we've had at this position.

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No, and the roll out on the scoring play was horid.

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Payton said in the press conference, that the FB play at the goal line with Lorig, was part of a "sequence" of plays they had drawn up in that situation (because they went no huddle). I saw it coming a mile away, on 4th down.



Now, ask yourself this: if I can see it, and I'm in the stands of the terrace with glassy eyes and a flask and 3 Budweisers in me, on a Sunday morning, don't you think an NFL caliber defensive scout or coordinator or player, could see it coming for miles, too? It was a Totally Predictable Sean Payton (TM) playcall. No wonder it didn't work.

Of course, five years ago with Heath Evans or Jed Collins, and a young 25 year old stud Jahri Evans on that side, that play was golden. It was money in the bank to go to the fullback on the goal line. But that was five years ago !!! This is exactly what people mean when they say it's getting stale.

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Anytime the FB is the primary option, it's probably not going to turn out well. I really don't see what they saw in the guy.

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Big Foot Lorig is on-fire this year:

2 carries / 3 yards - 1 fumble / 1 fumble lost
6 catches / 24 yards - 1 first down

8 touches for 27 yards with 1 first down and 1 lost fumble. Brilliant.

Also got pushed back in the pocket @ CAR that helped force yet another fumble, this one by Brees.

If Lorig is the answer, I am terrified of what the question was.

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The actual question was, apparently a real head scratcher. We let Jed Collins walk, who is currently tearing it up in Detroit, who are paying him $710,000, a 1 yr deal? And we signed Lorig to a 4-year, $4.8 million contract, paying him $40K MORE this year than Jed is getting???? It's not like Collins walked away with tons of suitors and left the Saints for a zillion dollar payday. WTF. He took less.

Can some Loomis style cap wizard, please explain? Because five minutes of looking at the details on Rotoworld had me feeling nauseous and worried about puking on my keyboard. I sure can't figure this one out.

Jed Collins = proven commodity in a Saints uniform. He definitely had some "beast mode" style touchdowns and cool plays, for us

Lorig = ??????

Did Jedediah do something to piss Payton off and make him cut him, did he fumble or wear the wrong cleats or something? I don't remember hearing anything.

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OMG!

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Collins was a below average run blocker while Lorig was one of the better run blocking FBs in the league while with the Bucs.

Letting Collins walk and signing Lorig was a further sign of the "commitment to the run" which the team was preaching all off-season long and for what many of the fans were screaming for.

It may not have worked out like they hoped it would, but I do see the basis for the decision they made.

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Alright, SaintsBro, thanks for answering my question? So what you're saying is that we're paying more for a dude (Lorig) for a longer period of time and doing way less than a dude making less (Collins) for a shorter period of time and doing way more for another team. Add Johnson to the "makes less for a shorter time but did more than Lorig is doing" stat pile.

Interesting facts: Johnson touched the ball 10 times, got 7 first downs, had 1 TD, and had ZERO fumbles. Lorig has touched the ball 8 times for 1 first down & 1 lost a fumble & is mostly responsible for another lost fumble with his pass protection against Carolina. With our fullback roster moves, it's almost a "Loomis, choke thyself" moment.

Just wish we had more of Austin and way less of Lorig at this point in the season...

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You guys are blaming the FB now? Hilarious.

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Sure are...nearly every position has played like turds these last 2 games and they all need some kind of improvement in one form or another.

So why not nit-pick on a fullback? Folks are always complaining they don't get enough press. Here we are. Make a first down on short yardage. Block worth a crap on running plays and in pass protection. Don't fumble the dang ball. Earn your pay, Lorig.

Spicing it up a bit...everybody flames the o-line, the defense, et al. Just providing some equal opportunity.

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IIRC he threw a key block on a blitz pick up in the Green Bay game that resulted in a 50 yard TD to Cooks (?). It was a thing of beauty.

I think the piling on is ridiculous. He's a frigging FB that's played 4 games. FOUR!!!

Sounds like you girls are just looking for something to whine about.

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Yes, the blitz pick up on that play was critical for executing that play. I'll give him that one for sure. With this thread Lorig's play was brought up, and we all gave our opinions on this dude's play. I see nothing wrong with pointing out his lack of effectiveness.

He is certainly not the reason we dropped that turd on Sunday against Cincinnati, but if us girls want to whine about his play, I think he's fair game the same as with SJB, Colston, the O-Line, our secondary, our coaches, ad nauseam...

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Not to mention he missed all of training camp, preseason and almost half of the regular season... Let's give the guy a little time.

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I'm pissed when i see Lorig in the flat, one yard line and he can't even gain an inch once contact arrives

A great blocker ought to be able to do that

He's just one of many problems

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Wasn't Lorig hit almost immediately by a PAIR of defenders?

Maybe the Saints' recent successes have skewed people's reality.

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Indeed he was. The guy has not played much, cut him a bit of slack to get warmed up at least. We have bigger problems than needing to bash a guy that has played well minus a play where he was STUFFED because a pair of defenders were at full speed on him. Geeze.

Really wish we could "dislike" on these posts.

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Of course, he was hit by a PAIR of defenders! Do ya think they might have had an inkling or a clue that the ball was likely coming to him? My complaint was mostly about the predictable play calling, only partially about the player. It was obvious watching in real time that the play was anticipated, he got met right there and no amount of effort was going to be able to get him into the end zone, short of a total miracle.

But taken as a whole, that play, that goal line sequence -- and Lorig -- is part of a growing laundry list of Things That Used To Work For The Saints, that don't work anymore....that is the elephant in the room, that I think some people don't seem to want to acknowledge....the things that USED to work for the Saints, that used to be money, aren't working reliably anymore. I could rattle off a list of things that used to be our bread and butter plays, that don't work reliably anymore:

- FB on the goal line
- Colston to move the chains (drops/fumbles)
- empty backfield on short yardage
- Drew threading the needle near the goal line
- the screens that get anticipated and blown up, so Drew has to throw it in the dirt...

Seriously, I could go on and on and list more. Heck, even running Ingram to Jahri's side, on the play before the FB pass -- two or three years ago that play would have probably worked. Or to the other side with Nicks in his prime, four or five years ago. Things with this offense and playcalling, are in the process of getting stale, and HIGHLY predictable to defenses. Can people not see it?

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Lorig is not the problem as much as the call on a play that doesn't really sell anything else as an option on a slow developing play.