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blackangold 12-07-2014 09:05 PM

Cancer in the locker room
 
Been hearing about locker room cancers within the team. This may be the first time we have had this issue. Hearing JR along with KV have been cancerous to the team, anyone back that up?

Makes you wonder and worry about this team going forward because they were supposed to be our new leaders. Their leadership failure us a big problem with this team.

If true SP should make them inactive for the rest of the season until they clean their act up.

Danno 12-07-2014 09:12 PM

Re: Cancer in the locker room
 
I've heard a bunch of hearsay about it, maybe just a lot of smoke? I'll look for the tweets that hint pretty hard that it's Junior. Watson, Shanle and someone else I can't recall tweeted some interesting comments after the game

Danno 12-07-2014 09:15 PM

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Danno 12-07-2014 09:20 PM

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I'm not into I told you so moments w Junior G. I feel bad for my former teammates,coaches, and fans. Not the standard we worked hard to set

— Scott Shanle (@scottshanle) December 7, 2014

blackangold 12-07-2014 09:23 PM

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Ya, I would say that hints at JRs comments... what else would it be about. He has gone from my favorite underrated player to the same scumbag level as cam newton in a matter of weeks. He also is a ***** because it's the second time he hasn't been around to talk about his idiotic comments.

The Dude 12-07-2014 09:25 PM

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For some reason I get the feeling that Payton isn't as all in this season as he has been in the past. Wouldn't surprise me if he leaves in the next year or two.

blackangold 12-07-2014 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 629860)
For some reason I get the feeling that Payton isn't as all in this season as he has been in the past. Wouldn't surprise me if he leaves in the next year or two.

Payton is in... just watch the last presser and look iinto his eyes, I can see his pain.

Barry from MS 12-07-2014 09:47 PM

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Yeah...with a loss like this one today, it ain't just getting a whoopin' on the field by a division rival in your house. It was the way and the manner and the circumstances in which it happened. That's why I made the comment in another thread that today was the worst game I've watched in the SP/Brees Era. Just my opinion, obviously, but it was just the feel of this game...can't really explain it. It's certainly beyond the field, though.

Bad mojo risin'...better get it fixed in a week or 3 or at the very least by the beginning of next season or risk 2015 being a total disaster.

jnormand 12-07-2014 10:09 PM

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Jr gets a contract and becomes a douchbag. Sorry, but I'm not a fan of his anymore.

brees84 12-07-2014 10:23 PM

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He started taking plays off in preseason. Jordan also. I didn't like that.

VegasSaint9 12-07-2014 10:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 629869)
Jr gets a contract and becomes a douchbag. Sorry, but I'm not a fan of his anymore.

Wasn't a fan of his huge extension after one decent year especially when we had him for cheap. Starting to hate it more by the second.

VegasSaint9 12-07-2014 10:35 PM

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If there's cancer in the locker room, I hope we cut or trade them for what they're worth.

Jack Vegas 12-07-2014 10:55 PM

Re: Cancer in the locker room
 
"cancer" is a strong word.

I would not at all be surprised if there were people in the locker room that took offense to Galette's comments and let him know about it. He's got some growing up to do. That doesn't mean he's a "cancer" but he did say a stupid-ass thing that may have thrown the team's focus.

didn't like his contract when he signed it. I won't like Jordan's either. These guys are too inconsistent from game to game.

RailBoss 12-08-2014 12:31 AM

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Were no better than the Washington Redskins right now and they have Has!!

AlaskaSaints 12-08-2014 01:10 AM

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The cancer in our locker room is MONEY.

nola_swammi 12-08-2014 01:14 AM

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I dislike Belchick a lot but Payton have to follow Belchick's rule book and trade JG if he is the cancer in the locker room. I have notice KV play has dramatically change, he missing too many tackles; he was the one responsible for the long td run. If we had Bush & Byrd I would've benched him weeks ago

My personal opinion, I think JG is playing better on defense than the rest but if he more of a negative in the locker room HE GOTTA GO

WillSaints81 12-08-2014 02:43 AM

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Welcome to the new NFL. Now it's happening in our locker room. This is sadly what college football is producing now. Dbag level players have taken over by storm and it's getting worser. Look at the top picks in the draft this year compared to the bottom ones in the first round. You can thank people like Drake, Bieber, Lil Wayne, Macklemore's music and personalities for spreading on our current culture. It's not about to get better either with JW coming aboard next year. Mark Cuban was dead on............get ready for the NFL to implode within the next two years if NCAA does not step in and fix this for those future young players. Or maybe its the music industry and rappers having too much influence on the NFL and college.

This culture has never fit our team and one player can mess things up. I think its revealing why we have played so bad. Its not just our team its the type of people we are competing with now in the league. The NFC unfortunately has more of them and we're falling out of sync with this. Even more, the younger fans now in the league compared to the same age in 2006 have grown to hate us and talk trash about us. The dbag generation does not like the saints. Therefore, we're no longer "special" and "special" now is what the eagles are. That's the NFL we have now.

As much as I hate to say it we need to move on from Payton because its run its course or we have to ride out the storm like Belichik and Dungy did. They play in the AFC where its less competitive which is why they have had more SB appearances. We don't get that luxury in the NFC. It's not our time now.

lee909 12-08-2014 02:53 AM

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I don't think Payton has been the same since returning from his years suspension. His play calling just has not been the same imo.


The Galette contract is looking like another massive millstone around the teams neck. These massive contracts that Loomis keeps overpaying are going too sink this team

From overthecap
This is another in a long line of mega contracts for the Saints who are clearly all in when it comes to this season. Galette’s cap number only increased by $50,000 this year but the monstrous $15.45 million cap charge next season has left the Saints with around $160 million in cap charges for their top 51 players. The team has five players with cap charges in excess of $10 million and eight players over $9 million. They are basically replacing the Dallas Cowboys as the baseline for current cap manipulations with minimal regard for the future.

Galette will likely have his contract restructured next season which will make what looks like manageable future contract figures high end figures and creating more trouble for the Saints in the future.

SloMotion 12-08-2014 05:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 629848)
When you're losing there always locker room conflict the way you cure locker room cancer is a good dose of winning!

Sorta' like how you only show up when the team's losing? What happened to the pledge? Thought you were done with this team? How 'bout a little personal honor & integrity? :neutral:

jlouhill 12-08-2014 05:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 629907)
I don't think Payton has been the same since returning from his years suspension.

100% agree. I said the exact same thing to someone at work earlier in the season. I've also felt almost from game one that something isn't right with this team this year. There's something going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to. JMO.

hagan714 12-08-2014 06:12 AM

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SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact

The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good.

Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with.

A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man

maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty.

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

darksoul35 12-08-2014 08:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 629906)
Welcome to the new NFL. Now it's happening in our locker room. This is sadly what college football is producing now. Dbag level players have taken over by storm and it's getting worser. Look at the top picks in the draft this year compared to the bottom ones in the first round. You can thank people like Drake, Bieber, Lil Wayne, Macklemore's music and personalities for spreading on our current culture. It's not about to get better either with JW coming aboard next year. Mark Cuban was dead on............get ready for the NFL to implode within the next two years if NCAA does not step in and fix this for those future young players. Or maybe its the music industry and rappers having too much influence on the NFL and college.

This culture has never fit our team and one player can mess things up. I think its revealing why we have played so bad. Its not just our team its the type of people we are competing with now in the league. The NFC unfortunately has more of them and we're falling out of sync with this. Even more, the younger fans now in the league compared to the same age in 2006 have grown to hate us and talk trash about us. The dbag generation does not like the saints. Therefore, we're no longer "special" and "special" now is what the eagles are. That's the NFL we have now.

As much as I hate to say it we need to move on from Payton because its run its course or we have to ride out the storm like Belichik and Dungy did. They play in the AFC where its less competitive which is why they have had more SB appearances. We don't get that luxury in the NFC. It's not our time now.

Sorry rap died With Pac and Biggie. All the artist that you mentioned are female pop singers.

Barry from MS 12-08-2014 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 629927)
A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

I'd take a Middle Linebacker that can square-up and wrap-up a running back for a 1-2 yard gain on 1st and 10 consistently than what we have now:

A safety pile-driving a running back for a 6 yard gain on 2nd and 10 then jumping up to "Sammy Sosa" himself then following it up with his own version of the Humpty Dance.

Football awareness & Football IQ are certainly not what the cool kids are learning about or practicing anymore.

Mardigras9 12-08-2014 11:39 AM

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Payton will get it done.

saintsfan1976 12-08-2014 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 630023)

Football awareness & Football IQ are certainly not what the cool kids are learning about or practicing anymore.

Back to a comment I made before: Are Payton's players thinking more than playing?

Barry from MS 12-08-2014 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 630031)
Back to a comment I made before: Are Payton's players thinking more than playing?

If they don't start winning, they'll be thinking waaay more than they'll be playing.

If I didn't say it, somebody else would have...

nutria 12-08-2014 01:47 PM

Re: Cancer in the locker room
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 629927)
SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact

The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good.

Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with.

A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man

maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty.

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

Everybody is too fat now, happens in business and in football. The ones that want it more and are willing to do the things that the losers won't end up with the win. Applies to the coaches and the team.

SloMotion 12-08-2014 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 630078)
i have no clue on what you're talking about.

How soon they forget, http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/fo...ilies/nono.gif ... on November 17th, you turned your back on your team. :neutral:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 625576)
... as far as i'm concern they gave up on the season yesterday, so have i.


SloMotion 12-08-2014 07:45 PM

Re: Cancer in the locker room
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 629946)
Sorry rap died With Pac and Biggie. All the artist that you mentioned are female pop singers.

Don't forget our very own "reezzbbuurrnnaa", :roflmao:

billyt81 12-10-2014 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 629946)
Sorry rap died With Pac and Biggie. All the artist that you mentioned are female pop singers.

How true! What happened to music? New rock is not much better. Maybe I'm just old.

ChrisXVI 12-10-2014 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 630150)
Don't forget our very own "reezzbbuurrnnaa", :roflmao:

Off-topic but damn dude you're going after him hard lol.

lee909 12-10-2014 03:37 PM

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Spot on
Im not a fan of much rap/dance or anything similar though so what i like is old,give me the Allman Brothers,Muddy Waters or Led Zepelin every day of the week

billyt81 12-10-2014 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 630142)
How soon they forget, http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/fo...ilies/nono.gif ... on November 17th, you turned your back on your team. :neutral:.

Darn that's pretty tough scrutiny. I know I post outlandish garbage when I'm a six pack deep. I still don't like KV or Stills though. We need LSU players. La'el Collins in RD 1. Kenny Hilliard RD 6. LSU leads the NFL with most active players. How in the F are none in NO? We could've had Eric Reid instead of Vaccarro. That's a 4.4 40 instead of a 4.6. We could've had Jarvis Landry instead of Stanley Jean Baptiste. That's a good starter over a practice squad dude.

Rugby Saint II 12-10-2014 05:30 PM

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Leadership left for greener pastures......we don't have any fiery leaders taking over the locker room and demanding excellence from the young guns. But we do have people that are twitter divas.....that is something I guess. :roll:

vpheughan 12-10-2014 07:32 PM

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Topic? What's a topic?

spkb25 12-10-2014 11:16 PM

Re: Cancer in the locker room
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 629927)
SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact

The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good.

Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with.

A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man

maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty.

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

Was just thinking this the other day, I'd give my left nut to have SS back out there playing LB

SloMotion 12-11-2014 05:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 630703)
Darn that's pretty tough scrutiny. I know I post outlandish garbage when I'm a six pack deep. I still don't like KV or Stills though. We need LSU players. La'el Collins in RD 1. Kenny Hilliard RD 6. LSU leads the NFL with most active players. How in the F are none in NO? We could've had Eric Reid instead of Vaccarro. That's a 4.4 40 instead of a 4.6. We could've had Jarvis Landry instead of Stanley Jean Baptiste. That's a good starter over a practice squad dude.

Yeah, well ... sometimes you gotta' clean out the cancer on the message boards as well, ;). You are allowed to critique your team even, and not necessarily in your case, if you don't know what you're talking about because someone on the board is gonna' set you (again, not necessarily in your case) straight. What you can't do is give up on a season, put it in writing, walk away and not expect someone to notice/comment, :shrug:. Think of it as "character-building", :).

Agree with you 100% on Landry as well, but hindsight is 20/20. Guess who nailed that one back in March? B&G blogger joker-saint : http://blackandgold.com/blogs/joker-...eckham-jr.html

Stuff like this is why I hang around and get on the teddybarexxx's of the world ... just sayin'.

Budsdrinker 12-11-2014 08:37 AM

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I like Jarvis Landry, he's from the same community I'm from and went to the same high school but if the Saints would have drafted Cooks in the 1st and Landry in the 2nd this board would have blown up about not taking defense.
Hindsight is always great but I think Cooks has the edge on Landry.


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