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WhoDat!656 12-19-2014 05:55 PM

Saints' Kenny Vaccaro, Rob Ryan both prefer Vaccaro in 'ADD' role
 
METAIRIE, La. -- Kenny Vaccaro said the best way to describe the versatile role he is now back to playing in Rob Ryan’s system is "ADD" -- which is fitting since the New Orleans Saints safety said people have often used that term to describe his personality, as well.

But Vaccaro admits it took him a while to realize that this hybrid/nickel role is the best one for both him and the Saints’ defense.

The second-year pro said he wanted to move into a true strong safety role this season, thinking he might become "great" at one thing. Instead, he went through growing pains all season before switching back this past week.

The Saints believe using Kenny Vaccaro in multiple roles benefits their defense more than having him play only strong safety."I took it wrong in the offseason," said Vaccaro, who admitted that he looked at someone like fellow 2013 rookie Eric Reid making the Pro Bowl for the San Francisco 49ers and thought that could have been him. "Eric Reid, for instance, he plays free safety, he’s sitting back there and that’s all he’s doing. He went to the Pro Bowl last year. And I was like, 'Dang, maybe if I played one position, I could ...'

"I thought that might help me make more plays, I guess. But not really though. Not in Rob’s scheme. The position I was in last year, that’s where you want to be. You want to be that guy that he designs the whole thing around."

New Orleans Saints' Kenny Vaccaro, Rob Ryan like safety in 'ADD' role - ESPN

NOLA54 12-19-2014 05:58 PM

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Hmmmmm...lets hope it works out for the remainder of the regular and post season.

Danno 12-19-2014 06:01 PM

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Yep, that star DB role is perfect for his Tazmanian devil type play. A little undisciplined head huntin rover type fits his skill set.
Basically a more violent Roman Harper.

CharityMike 12-19-2014 06:23 PM

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All good! If this keeps working, roll with it! Just wish it didn't take 15 weeks to figure this out.

NonieT 12-19-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 632448)
All good! If this keeps working, roll with it! Just wish it didn't take 15 weeks to figure this out.

It's called growing pains. He had to figure it out....all by himself. Be grateful it didn't happen after the season was over.

Jack Vegas 12-19-2014 11:10 PM

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Frustrating that it took them this long to figure it out when the fans have been screaming it for 2 months.

Also gonna be frustrating if this defense really takes off now, because who knows what this season could've been if this year's defense had been more like last year's.

QBREES9 12-19-2014 11:32 PM

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If it's working, don't fix it.

lee909 12-19-2014 11:47 PM

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The move made sense prior to the season with Bush,Sunseri and Byrd on the roster. Thing is now can we go into next season with Sanford,Ball and Sunseri to fight out the SS position or do we need a FA/Draft a SS to take the role?

hagan714 12-20-2014 06:54 AM

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LMAO now they both know he is not a true SS? what the .....? so the bill of goods Rob and Kenny sold us at the beginning of the season was just that a bill of goods? Or was it once again Rob's glaring inability to evaluate players correctly?

go back and read scouting reports on Kenny and this is the type of player he was in college and by all odds will never be a true SS in the NFL BUT you never really know he has not been given the chance in college.

Rob and the front office blew it and a SS need was not full filled in that draft.In the First round we drafted a player with the same skill set as White.

Not a bad thing just for the love of god do a better job of knowing the players we are drafting.

I am really tired of this craw fishing out of responsibility for player decisions.

right now i do not see a true SS on this team that meets the new nfl requirements for the job. I did not see it at then of last year either.

Got some really good back ups to work though. But that is all they are quality depth projects

Jack Vegas 12-20-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 632480)
right now i do not see a true SS on this team that meets the new nfl requirements for the job. I did not see it at then of last year either.

That's why I wanted to keep either Harper or Jenkins in the offseason. We didn't need both of them, but we could have kept one. I would be very much in favor of bringing Harper back for 2015 if Carolina lets him go, which seems like a good possibility.

halloween 65 12-20-2014 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 632512)
That's why I wanted to keep either Harper or Jenkins in the offseason. We didn't need both of them, but we could have kept one. I would be very much in favor of bringing Harper back for 2015 if Carolina lets him go, which seems like a good possibility.

I wanted to keep Harper for this season also, but Sunseri has the making of a fine SS, sure wish he was healthy now to settle in. I think Sunseri has a good chance to start next season. I think Bush will get traded, I would. Vaccaro has tried the true SS position and has failed miserably, although playing pest is what he does best and I do agree but are we going to run a 3 S set all the time.

Danno 12-20-2014 10:02 PM

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Sunseri is more of a FS than a SS.

jlouhill 12-21-2014 07:51 AM

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Has anyone really looked at what Kenny says here?
If I could play one position then I could make more plays then I could go to the pro bowl.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kenny, but that sounds like he's looking out for number one more so than what the team needs to win.

halloween 65 12-21-2014 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 632581)
Sunseri is more of a FS than a SS.

I'm not so sure Danno, he looks like he fits the SS roll to me.

halloween 65 12-21-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jlouhill (Post 632612)
Has anyone really looked at what Kenny says here?
If I could play one position then I could make more plays then I could go to the pro bowl.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kenny, but that sounds like he's looking out for number one more so than what the team needs to win.

He's not going to make the pro-bowl this year thats for sure.

jlouhill 12-21-2014 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 632620)
He's not going to make the pro-bowl this year thats for sure.

Guess the little I experiment can be considered an epic fail.

neugey 12-21-2014 04:50 PM

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What does ADD stand for? Astoundingly Disappointing Defense?

Seriously I hope Vac can turn it around.

Danno 12-21-2014 05:41 PM

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Was his name called at all today?

brees84 12-21-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633184)
Was his name called at all today?

He had one good stop on 3rd down. That's about it.

Rugby Saint II 12-21-2014 06:23 PM

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I don't recall him missing any tackles.


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