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saintsfan1976 12-20-2014 07:50 AM

3 More Sacks Nets Galette $6.5mm
 
Will you be rooting for or against Galette?

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@MikeTriplett does the bonus junior galette may get effect next years salary cap?


@MikeTriplett: No, Junior Galette's bonus won’t start kicking in until 2016 if he earns it. But I’m glad you asked because I’ve been meaning to write about this as an intriguing side-note over the next two weeks.

Galette has nine sacks this season, and if he gets three more, he’ll earn $6.5 million in future roster bonuses and escalators which are also tied to him being on the roster and/or playing a certain amount of snaps. He’d get a $2.5 million roster bonus in 2016, a $1.5 million roster bonus in 2017, a $1.3 million escalator in 2018 and a $1.2 million escalator in 2019.

It’s an interesting clause because it gives Galette an incentive to go all-out for sacks over the past two games. I don’t envision that being a big problem, since that’s Galette’s primary role anyway. But still, it points out the inherent flaw in putting individual-stat incentives into a player’s contract.

As for Galette’s upcoming cap costs, it’s also worth pointing out that his 2015 cap figure will be greatly reduced in the spring. Right now he’s scheduled to count $15.45 million against the Saints’ 2015 cap because of a guaranteed $12.5 million roster bonus. But that will almost certainly be converted into a signing bonus and spread out over the final five years of his deal, which will drop his 2015 cap hit to $5.45 million.

NonieT 12-20-2014 08:15 AM

Re: 3 More Sacks Nets Galette $6.5mm
 
I would never root against anyone on our defense getting more sacks. I hope he gets more than 3.

lee909 12-20-2014 08:19 AM

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I agree its his job to get sacks BUT putting in clauses like that is not a good idea. It leads to players going with mentality that means they chase the stats over the game. Say he needs one more sack in a game that the coach wants to rest him for the playoffs,or he has a injury and needs to sit out the week for the playoffs. Who isnt going to go chasing $6ml. I know i would

ChrisXVI 12-20-2014 08:45 AM

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Considering we're gonna be using him as a situational pass rusher again because of his banged up knee of course I'll be rooting for him. How in the world could someone possibly NOT root for seeing Galette knock the snot out of Matty Melt?!

SloMotion 12-20-2014 08:54 AM

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Go get 'em, JG ... mama needs new shoes, ;). bet.

SaintsBro 12-20-2014 09:10 AM

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Yeah it's gonna get verrrrrry interesting if the Saints beat Atlanta with Junior getting 2 sacks, and then the coaches decide to rest him against Tampa Bay for the playoffs....

SaintFanQ 12-20-2014 09:13 AM

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I hope he gets 10 sacks, lol!

Foot Stomper 12-20-2014 09:32 AM

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Seems like a terrible deal for the team to me. That's a huge bonus that seems unnecessary. The team has lost it's edge in negotiating contracts it seems to me.

Danno 12-20-2014 09:39 AM

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Seems to me it may have been structured as a 6.5 million reduction in pay if he doesn't perform.

It could be looked at either way.

woody 12-20-2014 09:49 AM

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I hope he breaks Derrick Thomas's single game record right in front of me.

ScottF 12-20-2014 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 632502)
Yeah it's gonna get verrrrrry interesting if the Saints beat Atlanta with Junior getting 2 sacks, and then the coaches decide to rest him against Tampa Bay for the playoffs....

His agent and Loomis decided on 12 as the magic number- I am sure they factored in injuries and every other factor. If we win and Clev wins, then yes, JG should sit. He's nowhere near 100%. The player's assoc can b**** all they want, but they won't have a case.

Now SP seems to be a stat guy- he has left Ingram in late in games to get him to 100. and we all remember Drew still throwing when we were up 30 against Atl on MNF.

If JG does play vs TB, and I was TB's coach, I'd let Gallete get 1 just to screw the Saints out of 6.5 mill

saintsfan1976 12-20-2014 11:47 AM

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12 sacks to earn another $6.5mm.

Anyone else hear "personal goals" as an issue?

Danno 12-20-2014 12:06 PM

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Of course, it being structured as a 2016 roster bonus, he has to be on the team in 2016 to collect.


Oh, and I find this intersting...
it’s also worth pointing out that his 2015 cap figure will be greatly reduced in the spring. Right now he’s scheduled to count $15.45 million against the Saints’ 2015 cap because of a guaranteed $12.5 million roster bonus. But that will almost certainly be converted into a signing bonus and spread out over the final five years of his deal, which will drop his 2015 cap hit to $5.45 million.

Well there's 10 million knocked off our 2015 cap problems.

K Major 12-20-2014 12:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 632523)
it’s also worth pointing out that his 2015 cap figure will be greatly reduced in the spring. Right now he’s scheduled to count $15.45 million against the Saints’ 2015 cap because of a guaranteed $12.5 million roster bonus. But that will almost certainly be converted into a signing bonus and spread out over the final five years of his deal, which will drop his 2015 cap hit to $5.45 million.

Well there's 10 million knocked off our 2015 cap problems.

:broccoli:

VegasSaint9 12-20-2014 12:34 PM

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Meh i hope cam jordan gets those sacks. Galette shouldnt have had this contract it appears to me it effected us in the run game.

ChrisXVI 12-20-2014 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 632535)
Meh i hope cam jordan gets those sacks. Galette shouldnt have had this contract it appears to me it effected us in the run game.

And Cam Jordan has done what exactly this season? He hasn't rushed the passer or stopped the run. At least Junior hasn't mailed it in this year.

xan 12-20-2014 01:27 PM

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This contract is exactly the reason any read option quarterback makes it to the Hall of Fame - Galette too focused on the sack.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2014 01:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 632539)
This contract is exactly the reason any read option quarterback makes it to the Hall of Fame - Galette too focused on the sack.

No read option QB will make it to the HOF. Their careers would never be long enough and their numbers suck.

Rugby Saint II 12-20-2014 01:54 PM

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Fine...........just remember your assignments. Contain! :brood:

AlaskaSaints 12-20-2014 01:59 PM

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Isn't this the definition of bounty? I mean... someone might get hurt.

My point is that the bounty-gate was ridiculous. No one got hurt.

VegasSaint9 12-20-2014 02:17 PM

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Not much to be honest which is weird. But if anyone got those sacks i hope its not junior. We don't need to give that much to a player who can only play on one down.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2014 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 632547)
Not much to be honest which is weird. But if anyone got those sacks i hope its not junior. We don't need to give that much to a player who can only play on one down.

The bonus doesn't take effect until 2016, not next season. Also, he ISN'T a one down player. He is a player that is being used on one down THIS WEEK.

iceshack149 12-20-2014 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 632544)
Isn't this the definition of bounty? I mean... someone might get hurt.

My point is that the bounty-gate was ridiculous. No one got hurt.

Tell that to Sean Payton. And me!

I know what you meant, though.

I know one guy that should have been priority number one on that list...

Quote:

Asked what motivated him to come forward as a whistle-blower with an email to the league in November 2011, Cerullo replied: "I was angry for being let go from the Saints."
He later testified: "I was angry at Joe Vitt, and I wanted to show that I was fired for lying and I witnessed Joe Vitt lying and he still had a job. So, that was my goal of reaching out to the NFL."
http://media.nola.com/saints_impact/...4135-small.jpg
http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTc...Xxdv69TvoiB7U-

The writer of that article, John Barr, jumped the gun on his stories too. Put him on the list.
:argue:

End of tangent.

hagan714 12-20-2014 06:59 PM

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even if he gets them his overall play this year says he should not be given the money

spkb25 12-20-2014 07:36 PM

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I hope he gets all 3 tomorrrow

saintsfan1976 12-20-2014 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 632536)
And Cam Jordan has done what exactly this season? He hasn't rushed the passer or stopped the run. At least Junior hasn't mailed it in this year.

Good point. #1 in the NFL for "QB hurries" this year?

#1: Junior Galette at 27. #2: JJ Watt has 23.

Cam Jordan is 21st with 12.

blackangold 12-21-2014 12:21 AM

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Do you guys know who leads the league in QB pressures?

That's right, our boy Gallete... go get your 3 sacks JR. I hope he is used as a pure pass rusher regardless of injury. He needs to be fresh every snap he takes.

Edit: didn't see the comment above me lol... oh well

jeanpierre 12-21-2014 05:35 AM

Re: 3 More Sacks Nets Galette $6.5mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 632496)
It’s an interesting clause because it gives Galette an incentive to go all-out for sacks over the past two games. I don’t envision that being a big problem, since that’s Galette’s primary role anyway. But still, it points out the inherent flaw in putting individual-stat incentives into a player’s contract.


Somewhat surprised to see Triplett make that statement...

Galette's blown assignments playing all-out for the sack (and even then, he's only been effective against backup linemen) has been a huge factor in the Saints Defense regression...

saintsfan1976 12-21-2014 07:46 AM

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"Situational" suits Galette best.

I'm really excited to see how Edibali plays today.

Foot Stomper 12-21-2014 03:23 PM

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I would sit him next week. Wouldn't think twice about it.

lee909 12-21-2014 03:37 PM

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Id start Kasim Edebali next week.
To be honest id give as manyof the young fringe players a run out
Kasim Edebali,Powell,Baptise.If its not to late for a roster change id bring Ryan Griffin in too and see what he has in a game

Danno 12-21-2014 05:43 PM

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Start all the young guys against Tampa. Lets see what we have.

And I'm including RG4 as well.

Jack Vegas 12-21-2014 05:45 PM

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Regardless of his idiotic Twittering or his ineffective play against the run, Junior has worked his butt off and plays hard just about every down.

Mardigras9 12-22-2014 03:02 PM

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Nothing to worry about, that money is safe.

Danno 12-22-2014 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 633190)
Regardless of his idiotic Twittering or his ineffective play against the run, Junior has worked his butt off and plays hard just about every down.

He is currently ranked #2 DE in the NFL in hurries just behind JJ Watt.

He may be one-dimensional, but its a damn good dimension.

Foot Stomper 12-22-2014 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633509)
He is currently ranked #2 DE in the NFL in hurries just behind JJ Watt.

He may be one-dimensional, but its a damn good dimension.

Gallette isn't even in the same universe as Watt. I don't care what some stat line may think.

Danno 12-22-2014 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Foot Stomper (Post 633521)
Gallette isn't even in the same universe as Watt. I don't care what some stat line may think.

That stat doesn't suggest he is.

nola_swammi 12-22-2014 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 633190)
Regardless of his idiotic Twittering or his ineffective play against the run, Junior has worked his butt off and plays hard just about every down.

I agree that junior play is with out doubt exceptional. He is also a great run stuffer and played the best out of all the players on defense. The only criticism I founded was his statements regarding the comparison of past players to current. Galette if you reading this I suggest you learn how to deflect questions in interviews by keeping the question relevant to what happen on the field


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