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Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I will say, trading Graham and using that money to freshen the O-line could really help a lot. And Watson + Hill is a pretty solid tight end duo. We lose money if we trade ...

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Old 12-21-2014, 06:50 PM   #1
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas View Post
I will say, trading Graham and using that money to freshen the O-line could really help a lot. And Watson + Hill is a pretty solid tight end duo.
We lose money if we trade him. We do not save one single penny.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:56 PM   #2
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We lose money if we trade him. We do not save one single penny.
Ok didn't know that one
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:36 AM   #3
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We lose money if we trade him. We do not save one single penny.
Yep, the cap hit is pretty substantial. Im all for saving money & using it towards rebuilding this team, but the Saints are in a bad spot with the contracts they have been handing out(Byrd, Graham, Gallete, brees.) Gallete's contract was by far the worst yet. Pretty silly for a situational player with one year of decent production. im hoping something will finally change, but its yet to be seen.

Drafting in the 7-14 range should help a bit in finding us an upgrade, but finances are really holding us back from adding anyone this offseason in FA.

I believe we draft Defense round 1 unless by some miracle Amari Cooper is sitting there in front of us, which i highly doubt. Couple of options id like in that 7-14 range would be Shaq Thompson & Marcus Peters or maybe Benardrick Mckinney later.

Id much rather trade back & gain picks of course. Feel as though theres a deeper crop of OL & pass rushers in this draft that we could select later in Rd 1 or 2 so id rather not spend a high(er) pick on those positions, but would be ok with any of the top tackles(scherff, collins, ogbuehi, stanley, flowers)


As for Big Rob, one great year followed by one bad. But i cant justify giving him his papers bc of one season, despite the mess that it was. It comes down to Joe Vitt, Greg Mcmahon, Bill Johnson & Wes Mcgriff not getting the job done. Joe Vitt is just not the answer...im over seeing the units we put out on the field year after year just stink it up.

IF we do move in another direction heres the two at the top of my list:

Ken Norton JR - could definitely change our LB group like he's had part in doing during his time with Seattle(Wagner, KJ, Malcolm, Irvin.)

Jim Tomsula - we all know what he' done there in San Fran.
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Ken Norton JR - could definitely change our LB group like he's had part in doing during his time with Seattle(Wagner, KJ, Malcolm, Irvin.)
His name has come up around the league quite a bit as of late.
Has done one heck of a job.
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His name has come up around the league quite a bit as of late.
Has done one heck of a job.
Yesir. He really has.

Common fans dont realize how good of a job he's done & the name he's been making for himself. Former LB that has not only developed this outstanding seahawks group, but remember the run of USC linebackers that came out? Guess who was coaching that group? Yep, Ken Norton. Now im not gonna say he was the direct root to the success of Cushing, Matthews & Maualuga, but he's definitely had a great hand in grooming & putting out some tremendous talent. Something we desperately need!

Was with USC from 2004-2009, then went over to seattle from there.

Ha, i remember having a few of his cards when he was over in San Fran playing. Had a nice rookie...some good times.
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

Saying we run a 3-4 next season, keep Hicks, Jordan, Jenkins and draft a NT and a swing-man for rotation. LB'ers keep Lofton and Harrelson, draft ILB and a FA OLB. With Byrd getting back, he and Warren set the FS spot, SS-Sunseri should be a go, trade Bush, really hard to say with Vaccaro unless we use him like Polomolu. Lewis at CB with Robinson and find a FA to boot and develop a couple of the young guys especially SJB our #2 overall pick. A few more of those type of picks we should be set for years to come. I really want to see SJB flourish, I do, but damn!!
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I don't think anybody should be 100% safe, except a couple of the really young guys on rookie contracts. And I do mean nobody 100% safe. This season was terrible from absolute top to bottom. I seriously hope they put away all the Super Bowl XLIV nostalgia and hype, put the trophy in the closet instead of showing it off in the lobby, stop listening all to the hype and just get back to being a hungry, underdog football team again. The Super Bowl XLIV nostalgia gravy train is officially OVER. The organization needs to figure that out.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:08 PM   #8
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

After the 16th regular season game, I would first determine who is fit to play; physically (because it seems some of our guys including veterans were not physically prepared to take the licks that are part of american football) and mentally (because some of our guys were not ready to play each down in a disciplined way).

Then see who is left. Maybe, just maybe, there are insufficient numbers to keep on pruning.
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Spec Teams Coordinator McMahon & LB Coach Joe Vitt.

Really don't want to see another Saints kicker that can't kick a 45+ yarder inside the freakin' Dome.
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Re: Now that the season is over who do you NOT want back?

Evans has been one of my favorite players on the team since we drafted him but he has looked terrible all year long. Goodwin is just a shell of his former self. I'm willing to give Grubbs another year but I think replacing those guys is the key to the whole offence. We got a great QB, good WRs and TEs and a RB that finally shows what he can do.
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