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RailBoss 12-22-2014 03:31 PM

VIC FANGIO
 
Now that the 49ers staff is blowing up wouldn't mind bringing Vic Fangio
back and sending Rob Ryan to another City.

dizzle88 12-22-2014 03:36 PM

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Let's hope SP thinks like that aswell

They've had a top 10 D for like 6 years straight now

|Mitch| 12-22-2014 03:47 PM

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Didn't we try to interview Ed Donatell(secondary) for the then vacant coordinator spot, Harbaugh blocked the attempt though? :rolleyes:

RailBoss 12-23-2014 01:47 AM

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Donatell to me looks like John Carney and I think we did try to talk with him. With Harbaugh gone now he won't be blocking anybody anymore at least for the 9ers. Would love to see even a similar trace of the Dome Patrol.

TheKillerBs 12-23-2014 01:57 AM

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#FireRobHireRex

Mr.Riaton 12-23-2014 06:09 AM

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I thought we were after Jim Tomsula

Lord_Saint83 12-23-2014 07:35 AM

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Even if we get Fangio as long as Vitt, McGriff, and Johnson are there the same results with Ryan I believe will still take place. We need to blow up the whole defensive coaching staff and bring in whom ever the new coordinator wants.

K Major 12-23-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 633659)
We need to blow up the whole defensive coaching staff and bring in whom ever the new coordinator wants.

Right but is Sean P willing to do that? I would say no :annoyed:

Lord_Saint83 12-23-2014 08:18 AM

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I agree but he ever wants major improvement on the defense, then he should fire his cronies.

rezburna 12-23-2014 08:23 AM

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I think we should let Ryan bring in his own coordinators.

Mr.Riaton 12-23-2014 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 633671)
I think we should let Ryan bring in his own coordinators.

If all else fails,it's worth a shot.

Foot Stomper 12-23-2014 10:09 AM

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49ers have / had for a while now alot of talent. We don't. Would he even wont to come here with the lack of talent we have? If I am a top Defensive coach I look elsewhere.

hagan714 12-23-2014 10:23 AM

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right now SP is in a unique hiring spot. a lot of our super bowl ass coaches are going to be out on the open market.

jeanpierre 12-23-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 633671)
I think we should let Ryan bring in his own coordinators.

This is an excellent point...

You give Rob Ryan Scheiße and expect him to mould it into brick wall?!?

He needed that third round pick for a linebacker...

He needs to build his own staff...

And he needs to get rid of that joke of a linebackers coach, Joe Vitt and his little junior too...

RailBoss 12-23-2014 11:55 AM

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Well whatever SP and Loomis cook up it needs to start with the staff and end with smart new player choices. I can only think that our shopping list is long.

Rugby Saint II 12-23-2014 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 633695)
right now SP is in a unique hiring spot. a lot of our super bowl ass coaches are going to be out on the open market.

That is quite the conundrum.:dunce:

Danno 12-25-2014 10:16 AM

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IIRC didn't the 49ers have about 5 or 6 years of top draft picks and continue to get numerous comp picks?

hagan714 12-25-2014 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 633671)
I think we should let Ryan bring in his own coordinators.

sorry aint buying into it. he has done it before in other towns and still has produced nothing. his track history is what it is and he is running out of excuses and the use of the Ryan name is just about worn out.

lee909 12-25-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 634043)
IIRC didn't the 49ers have about 5 or 6 years of top draft picks and continue to get numerous comp picks?

The way comp picks are given out get on my nerves.
Certain team refuse to pay players so get additional picks which with the additional picks allows more vets to leave giving yhrw more picks. Its a joke. If you have a comp pick in the 3/4 and pick late like Ravens and 49ers do then trade the pick for a higher pick the following year and keep the cycle going. It also lets the 49ers to continue picking injured players to IR them a year as its a free pick.

foreverfan 12-25-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 633697)
This is an excellent point...

You give Rob Ryan Scheiße and expect him to mould it into brick wall?!?

He needed that third round pick for a linebacker...

He needs to build his own staff...

And he needs to get rid of that joke of a linebackers coach, Joe Vitt and his little junior too...

We need it worse. :bng:

jeanpierre 12-25-2014 05:23 PM

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Still trying to get how the Ravens have more compensatory picks than the rest of the league...

spkb25 12-25-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 633671)
I think we should let Ryan bring in his own coordinators.

Why he was 4rth with this crew last year, I don't get why it is the guys around him all of a sudden. I gave him credit for our performance last year why can't give him credit for this season?

vtiger72 12-26-2014 08:05 PM

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I'm not sure Ryan is able to coordinate a defense with sustainable success. New Orleans is his fourth attempt, and there's enough evidence to believe he is what he is. Ryan runs exotic schemes and because of that, he can often get success and even shut down top offenses. His problems are these: 1. If he suffers injuries on the defensive side, new players have trouble coming in and learning all the exotic looks and schemes. This leads to confusion and big plays being given up. The years his defenses have played well, they had health.
2. His crazy schemes also require players to be very versatile. If an offense can figure him out, they can exploit it when he tries to send a d-lineman into coverage or use corners and safeties to play the run.
3. Ryan is more a motivator and relies on his position coaches to do the teaching. His players love to play for him, but often his defensive players show inconsistent technique. Also, because players are asked to do multiple jobs, they often do not get enough reps in technique.
4. Schemes can often be too complicated for players not willing to put in the time.
All this leads me to believe that relying on Ryan to run a defense is playing with poison. It could work out, but it also could produce atrocious results as it did this season.

Jack Vegas 12-26-2014 08:35 PM

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He might even bring Patrick Willis with him. They have Bowman and Borland and Willis' cap hit goes up five million dollars as compared to last year. Can you imagine Willis and Lofton on the same field? We could play 3-2-6 or 4-2-5 every single down.

vtiger72 12-26-2014 09:03 PM

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Slow down for a minute. Even if the 49ers let Willis go (they won't), the amount he would get on the open market would exceed anything the Saints would have to offer in cap space.

K Major 12-26-2014 09:17 PM

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Ahmad Brooks aka Brees killer will be on the market as well. This guy is still a big time play maker and is an upgrade over any LB on our roster.

lee909 12-27-2014 02:33 PM

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STOP WASTING TIME AND SIGN THEM

aquaboogie 12-29-2014 01:11 AM

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Any suggestions on how to pay them? We already have cap issues!

RailBoss 12-29-2014 02:54 AM

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The Cap issues will probably doom us again I'm afraid!

QBREES9 12-29-2014 06:31 PM

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Call the froont office and suggest this, wouldn't mind bringing Vic Fangio

Danno 12-29-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aquaboogie (Post 634780)
Any suggestions on how to pay them? We already have cap issues!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 634787)
The Cap issues will probably doom us again I'm afraid!

We can get to 10-15 million under the cap easily with several restructured contracts and cuts.

When will people learn to trust Loomis on cap issues?

jeanpierre 12-29-2014 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 634190)
Ahmad Brooks aka Brees killer will be on the market as well. This guy is still a big time play maker and is an upgrade over any LB on our roster.

Really like the idea of a nasty linebacker like Brooks, but I'd really like to get younger...

CharityMike 12-29-2014 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 634787)
The Cap issues will probably doom us again I'm afraid!

Again?? When was the last time we had cap issues?

brees84 12-29-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 635110)
Really like the idea of a nasty linebacker like Brooks, but I'd really like to get younger...

Brandon Marshall from Denver had great season. Every time I watched Denver he was all over the field.

Mr.Riaton 12-29-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 635148)
Brandon Marshall from Denver had great season. Every time I watched Denver he was all over the field.

I think your thinking of a different player, playa! BM is a wr for Da bears.

brees84 12-29-2014 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 635152)
I think your thinking of a different player, playa! BM is a wr for Da bears.

No. There is one in Denver also. lol


Denver Broncos: Brandon Marshall

Mr.Riaton 12-29-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 635162)
No. There is one in Denver also. lol


Denver Broncos: Brandon Marshall

You gotta be s**tin me! Lol...my bad bro! How did I not know this?!?

lee909 12-30-2014 04:04 AM

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Annoyingly there are two J Gordon too. I found this too my horror when my fat fingers claimed the wrong one off waivers in fantasy

brees84 01-01-2015 01:41 PM

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"A source tells ESPN Radio 980 that the Redskins have been denied permission to talk to 49ers DC Vic Fangio."


"The Redskins have been granted permission to talk to 49ers DBs coach Ed Donatell"

K Major 01-01-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 635148)
Brandon Marshall from Denver had great season. Every time I watched Denver he was all over the field.

Yep. Plays the game angry and arrives with bad intentions. We can use two of those.


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