Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage?

xan · 12-26-2014, 10:31 AM

There have been likely no Saints squad that had so many analysts and experts picking them to win the super bowl. To have delivered such a rotten pile of fecal matter is a testament to the level of suckage compared to other squads.

Euphoria · 12-26-2014, 10:37 AM

Oh come on people... this team doesn't even fall into the 10 worse.

If you think they do... you need to do some research.

Danno · 12-26-2014, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Oh come on people... this team doesn't even fall into the 10 worse.

If you think they do... you need to do some research.

Define worst.

This was probably the most talented team the Saints ever had. To finish so badly is definitely one of the worst seasons we've ever seen.

But you're sorta right...

Without factoring expectations and talent, not even close to top 10 worst.

If you do factor in expectations and talent, easily the worst ever.

billyt81 · 12-26-2014, 03:53 PM

The other Saints team that sucked were better to cheer for. Saints teams always hustle and show heart. This team showed no fight. I think JG is a cancer. He makes a boat load of $ but won't block and doesn't break many tackles vs DBs he often outweighs by 50+ lbs. Not to mention the many passes he either short arms or won't try for. Resulting in drops and INTs. I know he's good but it is an issue. Other players must be thinking,"if he doesn't fight on every play, why should I?"

exiled · 12-26-2014, 04:21 PM

I think my hopes fell further with this team than any other. I for one am not trying to define worst - just most disappointing.

Yes, far worse Saints squads have been easier to cheer for. Even the 99 saints and the 80 saints were at least fun to cheer for.

Maybe I had an underdog chip on my shoulder in those days. Even though it was embarrassing it was still fun to watch.

These days the dynasty word was thrown around - until this season and that is just embarrassing for all the wrong reasons.

I actually dread the last game.

vpheughan · 12-26-2014, 05:20 PM

And Big Deal if Brees gets another 5000 yd season. Proving that statistics are indeed for the LOSERS! Where are those replacement players?

dizzle88 · 12-26-2014, 07:17 PM

I think because of last years success and the fact that we only upgraded at every position (other than CB) expectations were sky high

So when our team blew games in every which way, its easy to see why we are staring at 6-10 in the face, not comforting but very easy to see why.

2009-2011 found ways to win
2014 saints somehow found ways to lose.

Foot Stomper · 12-27-2014, 10:55 AM

All things considered this is the WORST team ever in the history of the franchise. Before Benson all teams sucked and aren't part of this conversation due to crappy ownership. Since Benson, this is the worst team. Sure Mora crapped out in the playoffs so those are in the top 10 but this 2014 team takes the prize. No heart, no desire, let other teams run, throw and take their lunch money pretty much every week accept a couple of games this year. Pick an area and most of the year they played like crap. Offense, Defense, ST's, coaching all were just a buzz kill.

Congratulations 2014 Saints...you are the recipients of the Worst Saints Team in History.

SaintsBro · 12-27-2014, 12:03 PM

I feel like some people are acting like this year was some kind of strange new thing or a freak deviation for the Saints.... But if you honestly look at 2012 to now? Other than a brief win streak in early 2013 where the Saints got hot for a handful of games, this club has been playing .500-ish ball straight through from 2012 right to now. The only difference between 2014 and the abysmal year of 2012, was that this year you didn't have the lack of Sean Payton on the sidelines to be the excuse for it. (Which turned out to maybe not be as much of a difference maker as we all thought? But that's probably a topic for another thread.)

But from the eyeball test, hey, it's basically the same exact team, folks, that sucked in 2012 and then struggled and dropped a bunch of games later in 2013 after the bye; it's all the same as this year, too. Other than that short win streak in early 2012 when Payton was hot, and a very good game in Philly in the playoffs last year, it all looks exactly the same to me. More often than not, during the past three years the Saints are playing .500 ball, on a typical normal day at the office.

Danno · 12-28-2014, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I feel like some people are acting like this year was some kind of strange new thing or a freak deviation for the Saints.... But if you honestly look at 2012 to now? Other than a brief win streak in early 2013 where the Saints got hot for a handful of games, this club has been playing .500-ish ball straight through from 2012 right to now. The only difference between 2014 and the abysmal year of 2012, was that this year you didn't have the lack of Sean Payton on the sidelines to be the excuse for it. (Which turned out to maybe not be as much of a difference maker as we all thought? But that's probably a topic for another thread.)

But from the eyeball test, hey, it's basically the same exact team, folks, that sucked in 2012 and then struggled and dropped a bunch of games later in 2013 after the bye; it's all the same as this year, too. Other than that short win streak in early 2012 when Payton was hot, and a very good game in Philly in the playoffs last year, it all looks exactly the same to me. More often than not, during the past three years the Saints are playing .500 ball, on a typical normal day at the office.

And one of the common denominators is the decline of the interior line. I don't think its a coincidence at all.

Grubbs was OK, but he was no Carl Nicks. Nicks at that time the best OG in the NFL. Evans' game started declining about 2 or 3 years ago. He was still good but he's gotten worse every year since 2011.

We've had mediocre Centers ever since Goodwin left, and now he's a shadow of his former self.

I think the key to fixing the problems on offense are simple. Add an above average Center and Guard and the offense will be fine even without any skill position upgrades. Probably right back to elite.

The defense on the other hand, it needs several upgrades. Most are obtainable though. That #2 CB spot, a DT that can collapse the pocket and some more speed at a couple of LB spots and it should at least be competitive.

12-26-2014, 10:31 AM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? There have been likely no Saints squad that had so many analysts and experts picking them to win the super bowl. To have delivered such a rotten pile of fecal matter is a testament to the level of suckage compared to other squads. Ashley likes this.

12-26-2014, 04:03 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? Originally Posted by Euphoria Oh come on people... this team doesn't even fall into the 10 worse. If you think they do... you need to do some research. Define worst. This was probably the most talented team the Saints ever had. To finish so badly is definitely one of the worst seasons we've ever seen. But you're sorta right... Without factoring expectations and talent, not even close to top 10 worst. If you do factor in expectations and talent, easily the worst ever. skymike and dizzle88 like this.

12-26-2014, 03:53 PM	#4
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? The other Saints team that sucked were better to cheer for. Saints teams always hustle and show heart. This team showed no fight. I think JG is a cancer. He makes a boat load of $ but won't block and doesn't break many tackles vs DBs he often outweighs by 50+ lbs. Not to mention the many passes he either short arms or won't try for. Resulting in drops and INTs. I know he's good but it is an issue. Other players must be thinking,"if he doesn't fight on every play, why should I?" skymike and MaggieMayTB like this.

12-26-2014, 04:21 PM	#5
exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 487	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? I think my hopes fell further with this team than any other. I for one am not trying to define worst - just most disappointing. Yes, far worse Saints squads have been easier to cheer for. Even the 99 saints and the 80 saints were at least fun to cheer for. Maybe I had an underdog chip on my shoulder in those days. Even though it was embarrassing it was still fun to watch. These days the dynasty word was thrown around - until this season and that is just embarrassing for all the wrong reasons. I actually dread the last game. jeanpierre and MaggieMayTB like this.
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12-26-2014, 05:20 PM	#6
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12-26-2014, 10:37 AM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? Oh come on people... this team doesn't even fall into the 10 worse. If you think they do... you need to do some research.

12-26-2014, 07:17 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,560	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? I think because of last years success and the fact that we only upgraded at every position (other than CB) expectations were sky high So when our team blew games in every which way, its easy to see why we are staring at 6-10 in the face, not comforting but very easy to see why. 2009-2011 found ways to win 2014 saints somehow found ways to lose.

12-27-2014, 10:55 AM	#8
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? All things considered this is the WORST team ever in the history of the franchise. Before Benson all teams sucked and aren't part of this conversation due to crappy ownership. Since Benson, this is the worst team. Sure Mora crapped out in the playoffs so those are in the top 10 but this 2014 team takes the prize. No heart, no desire, let other teams run, throw and take their lunch money pretty much every week accept a couple of games this year. Pick an area and most of the year they played like crap. Offense, Defense, ST's, coaching all were just a buzz kill. Congratulations 2014 Saints...you are the recipients of the Worst Saints Team in History.

12-27-2014, 12:03 PM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? I feel like some people are acting like this year was some kind of strange new thing or a freak deviation for the Saints.... But if you honestly look at 2012 to now? Other than a brief win streak in early 2013 where the Saints got hot for a handful of games, this club has been playing .500-ish ball straight through from 2012 right to now. The only difference between 2014 and the abysmal year of 2012, was that this year you didn't have the lack of Sean Payton on the sidelines to be the excuse for it. (Which turned out to maybe not be as much of a difference maker as we all thought? But that's probably a topic for another thread.) But from the eyeball test, hey, it's basically the same exact team, folks, that sucked in 2012 and then struggled and dropped a bunch of games later in 2013 after the bye; it's all the same as this year, too. Other than that short win streak in early 2012 when Payton was hot, and a very good game in Philly in the playoffs last year, it all looks exactly the same to me. More often than not, during the past three years the Saints are playing .500 ball, on a typical normal day at the office. VegasSaint9 and Foot Stomper like this.
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12-28-2014, 09:19 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage? Originally Posted by SaintsBro I feel like some people are acting like this year was some kind of strange new thing or a freak deviation for the Saints.... But if you honestly look at 2012 to now? Other than a brief win streak in early 2013 where the Saints got hot for a handful of games, this club has been playing .500-ish ball straight through from 2012 right to now. The only difference between 2014 and the abysmal year of 2012, was that this year you didn't have the lack of Sean Payton on the sidelines to be the excuse for it. (Which turned out to maybe not be as much of a difference maker as we all thought? But that's probably a topic for another thread.) But from the eyeball test, hey, it's basically the same exact team, folks, that sucked in 2012 and then struggled and dropped a bunch of games later in 2013 after the bye; it's all the same as this year, too. Other than that short win streak in early 2012 when Payton was hot, and a very good game in Philly in the playoffs last year, it all looks exactly the same to me. More often than not, during the past three years the Saints are playing .500 ball, on a typical normal day at the office. And one of the common denominators is the decline of the interior line. I don't think its a coincidence at all. Grubbs was OK, but he was no Carl Nicks. Nicks at that time the best OG in the NFL. Evans' game started declining about 2 or 3 years ago. He was still good but he's gotten worse every year since 2011. We've had mediocre Centers ever since Goodwin left, and now he's a shadow of his former self. I think the key to fixing the problems on offense are simple. Add an above average Center and Guard and the offense will be fine even without any skill position upgrades. Probably right back to elite. The defense on the other hand, it needs several upgrades. Most are obtainable though. That #2 CB spot, a DT that can collapse the pocket and some more speed at a couple of LB spots and it should at least be competitive.

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