Where Does The 2014 Team Rank in Saints History Suckage?
 

Lets be real. Suckage is a big part of our history. I remember the days whenever you would encounter random Saints fans, the conversation often turned to "What was the saddest game you ever saw?"

Is this the worst Saints team in franchise history?
Or could you say this is the most disappointing one?

I know you're going to say we have the best QB. Well, in the Bag Head Days,
we had Archie Manning, who was a great QB, and the team sucked over all.

The '84 Team, when Ken Stabler took over for Richard Todd was most disappointing, especially considering our badass Bum Phillips defense.

The '96 team with Jim Everett QB and Mario Bates RB was, to me, the most heartless team I'd seen. We still had some Jim Mora influenced defensive talent, and I loved Tyrone Hughes, a walking bolt of lightning. But the team overall played with the passion of the Pyro tech at a Dan Fogelberg concert. (old reference)

I did miss the 1-15 '80 season, as I was still with the Oilers then

But Ill stick it out. This was the most heartless, gutless Saints team I've ever seen. If you cant get up and catch fire for the Atlanta Falcons in your own house, with our crowd, for the division, for revenge, and for New Orleans, you dont belong in football. Its time to seek employment in the area of your college "degree," insurance, communications, philosophy, basket weaving, whatever. You are not worthy to be on the Superdome turf, if you let Atlanta come in and punk you in your house, in this situation.

I'd be happy to see 43 of these guys gone next year, and any of the coaches, or front office people who happen to fall. Wouldnt bother me. They're all infected.

Im the world's biggest apologist for players, and I'm one of the few fans who think of every man on the field as someone's son, dad, husband, brother. Nothing pisses me more than some fat loser from his couch flaming a guy, because his knee is shredded like a chicken bone, and he cannot play a game, where other guys are trying to knock him unconscious, as if that guy CHOSE to be injured, or somehow fails, because he is made of flesh.

But this was the Falcons. It is painful to type this: swept.
The great John Riggins (Redskins) once quit football, after a loss to Dallas.

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Most disappointing ever

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We were pretty pathetic in 2014 - most disappointing for sure.

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Disappointingly pathetic!

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Definitely the most disappointing and underacheiving. Most gutless goes to Haslett's 2001 and 2002 squads.

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I would have to say most disappointing.

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I can remember between 20-25 Saints teams that sucked more in my memory. This team doesn't even come close.

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Absolutely, but I don't recall another team sucking this hard...With this much talent.

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This!
2009 was the year we did more with less. 2014 is the year we did less with more.

Granted, our biggest FA signee and our #1 draft pick were both injured for big chunks of the season. But, a team with this much talent and coaches that we know can get the job done, fails this hard. It's a bitter pill to swallow.

But, in a franchise that was pretty much built on a foundation of suckitude, this season is hardly the worst, or the most disappointing.

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I do believe this is one of the most disappointing teams based on its' potential that we were all sold on before the season.
As far as sucking, good lord has there been worse Saints teams that have taken the field, lol, that's not hard at all.

As far as getting up for our crowd, I go to most of the games, and I just didn't get the feel from the crowd in the Dome this year of domination. The advantage was not what it has been in the last few years there. Seemed as if everyone was waiting for the other shoe to drop all game long. I really started seeing it as early as the Tampa game. Just my opinion.

This team had their chance going into that 3 game home stretch at .500. That three game losing stretch was the most disappointin of the disappointing season, even more than getting swept by the Falcons.

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The least results for the most talent I've seen in my 40+ years as a fan. The worst part of that was the lack of effort and fire exhibited.

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Or could you say this is the most disappointing one?

I can not say this but they do rank up there for disappointment. But I expected this defense to tank and the offense to carry us. Defense went on the skids last year and came out of the gate the same way and continued all the way to the end. i never bought into the preseason press clipping. a season this bad? nope did not see that one

Rob saw the slide and did nothing. he stayed with My System will turn it around. Drafted player to fit the same system and did nothing to to adjust it at the end of last season. at the begining of the season nothing.

In many ways Rob and Spags are a lot alike.

Both are stubborn and pig headed.

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How quickly we forget the early years after these recent seasons of success. Yes, our expectations are totally up, as they should be. Our recent track record just shows Team SP and Loomie haven't learned the NE way of ridding themselves of talent at the right time and selecting fresh talent to replace said over-the-hill and overpaid or soon to be overpaid talent. But there is no doubt there is major Donkey Kong Suckage talent on this here 2014 Saints team.

:flush:

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This is the first year since Brooks was the QB that I wanted to kick a puppy.

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I'm sure I've seen worse.........I just can't remember when.

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This ONE! They didn't care. You could see it and feel it. Just went through the motions. There is something very very wrong! Trade Payton and Brees for Harbaugh and Kaepernick. Fire Loomis and let Harbaugh be Coach and GM.

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ok, i love paytons work, but harbaugh? hell yes! they would CARE, if he was here.

brees stays.

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There have been likely no Saints squad that had so many analysts and experts picking them to win the super bowl. To have delivered such a rotten pile of fecal matter is a testament to the level of suckage compared to other squads.

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Oh come on people... this team doesn't even fall into the 10 worse.

If you think they do... you need to do some research.

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Yes, esp 2001 coming off our first playoff win - I was stoked for the season to start - and happy to see it FINALLY end...

Also 89 most frustrating... Like this season...we were not terrible. No, just the oposite - like this team... with Herbert and Hilliard; Mills, Swilling, Jackson, and Johnson but just could not quit imploding much like this team.

WHAT THE HELL was the problem in 2014?

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The other Saints team that sucked were better to cheer for. Saints teams always hustle and show heart. This team showed no fight. I think JG is a cancer. He makes a boat load of $ but won't block and doesn't break many tackles vs DBs he often outweighs by 50+ lbs. Not to mention the many passes he either short arms or won't try for. Resulting in drops and INTs. I know he's good but it is an issue. Other players must be thinking,"if he doesn't fight on every play, why should I?"

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Define worst.

This was probably the most talented team the Saints ever had. To finish so badly is definitely one of the worst seasons we've ever seen.

But you're sorta right...

Without factoring expectations and talent, not even close to top 10 worst.

If you do factor in expectations and talent, easily the worst ever.

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I think my hopes fell further with this team than any other. I for one am not trying to define worst - just most disappointing.

Yes, far worse Saints squads have been easier to cheer for. Even the 99 saints and the 80 saints were at least fun to cheer for.

Maybe I had an underdog chip on my shoulder in those days. Even though it was embarrassing it was still fun to watch.

These days the dynasty word was thrown around - until this season and that is just embarrassing for all the wrong reasons.

I actually dread the last game.

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And Big Deal if Brees gets another 5000 yd season. Proving that statistics are indeed for the LOSERS! Where are those replacement players?

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No puppy kicking!!

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I think because of last years success and the fact that we only upgraded at every position (other than CB) expectations were sky high

So when our team blew games in every which way, its easy to see why we are staring at 6-10 in the face, not comforting but very easy to see why.

2009-2011 found ways to win
2014 saints somehow found ways to lose.

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All things considered this is the WORST team ever in the history of the franchise. Before Benson all teams sucked and aren't part of this conversation due to crappy ownership. Since Benson, this is the worst team. Sure Mora crapped out in the playoffs so those are in the top 10 but this 2014 team takes the prize. No heart, no desire, let other teams run, throw and take their lunch money pretty much every week accept a couple of games this year. Pick an area and most of the year they played like crap. Offense, Defense, ST's, coaching all were just a buzz kill.

Congratulations 2014 Saints...you are the recipients of the Worst Saints Team in History.

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I feel like some people are acting like this year was some kind of strange new thing or a freak deviation for the Saints.... But if you honestly look at 2012 to now? Other than a brief win streak in early 2013 where the Saints got hot for a handful of games, this club has been playing .500-ish ball straight through from 2012 right to now. The only difference between 2014 and the abysmal year of 2012, was that this year you didn't have the lack of Sean Payton on the sidelines to be the excuse for it. (Which turned out to maybe not be as much of a difference maker as we all thought? But that's probably a topic for another thread.)

But from the eyeball test, hey, it's basically the same exact team, folks, that sucked in 2012 and then struggled and dropped a bunch of games later in 2013 after the bye; it's all the same as this year, too. Other than that short win streak in early 2012 when Payton was hot, and a very good game in Philly in the playoffs last year, it all looks exactly the same to me. More often than not, during the past three years the Saints are playing .500 ball, on a typical normal day at the office.

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Fire them all!

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And one of the common denominators is the decline of the interior line. I don't think its a coincidence at all.

Grubbs was OK, but he was no Carl Nicks. Nicks at that time the best OG in the NFL. Evans' game started declining about 2 or 3 years ago. He was still good but he's gotten worse every year since 2011.

We've had mediocre Centers ever since Goodwin left, and now he's a shadow of his former self.

I think the key to fixing the problems on offense are simple. Add an above average Center and Guard and the offense will be fine even without any skill position upgrades. Probably right back to elite.

The defense on the other hand, it needs several upgrades. Most are obtainable though. That #2 CB spot, a DT that can collapse the pocket and some more speed at a couple of LB spots and it should at least be competitive.

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There have been worse seasons of suckage. I can't speak to anything before 1988, but this was one of the worst seasons coaching-wise, right up there with Ditka's last season. So this season was painful in its own unique way. This team took on the guise of a lifeless, heartless corporation. We are like the Sony of the NFL. And who needs the Lizard Squad or North Korea, when we have the Falcons to take us down.

The Lions game was the worst loss of the season. It was incomprehensible that we lost that game. And all we hear from Payton is usual narrative, "well there's the peaks and valleys in every NFL season" nonsense.

I'll always be a fan, but as I've gotten older I've gotten less patient with underachievement and especially bad coaching. It's hard to stay engaged when your team is being run the wrong way. Maybe I should consult a Cowboys fan for advice on that one.

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Very disappointing

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Been a fan since 1986 and this definitely wasn't the worst Saints team I've seen but it was the most disappointing team I've seen. Most of the bad Saints teams I knew were going to bad but this team I had high expectations for. Nothing more disappointing then having high expectations and falling miserably short.

This was a team with no heart and honestly showed me nothing to make me believe the future is bright. I think this team needs a huge overhaul because quite frankly we don't have good players. We've missed a lot recently in both the draft and FA and now we're stuck with young kids who can't play and older guys past their prime. Looking ahead we have virtually no flexibility due to our cap situation which makes this years draft so important. I do know that unless major changes are made my expectations next year will be very low for this team because nothing I saw from this pathetic group makes me think they will turn it around next year.

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Stop right there.
You've missed half the (un)fun, and much of the worst.

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I don't think this team underachieved any worse than the Haslett/Brooks teams of 2002-2004 teams did.

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Bigger disappointment with this team, this year...

Those teams were like watching a first class, state-of-the-art ladder firetruck pull up with Shakes the Clown and Bobo at the wheels...

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I dunno...I felt pretty danged disappointed after that 2002 team screaming into the playoffs with a 9-4 record then butt-fumbling 3 straight to miss the playoffs...losing to 3 absolutely garbage Minnesota, Cincinnati, & Carolina teams in a row to close out the season. Two of those at home, by the way.

Felt more betrayed by that 2002 team than by this 2014 team. Hate Haslett & AB to this day for that team.