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The Dude 12-22-2014 06:26 PM

Junior Gallete
 
Leads the league in Qb hurries.
Still want to get rid of him?

Danno 12-22-2014 06:27 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
I just want him to STFU and play football.

Mr.Riaton 12-22-2014 06:30 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
A few years ago we would have been thrilled to pick up a guy like him in FA.

Sarik 12-22-2014 06:36 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633575)
I just want him to STFU and play football.

THIS. lol

Idk if i could have said it better myself Danno.

He damn sure better. He's a one trick pony, thats his job.

Barry from MS 12-22-2014 06:41 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
For that contract & play all 3 downs, he'd better learn how to play team run defense.

QB hurries vs Team Run Defense Stats.

I'll take Team Run Defense Stats.

Danno 12-22-2014 06:42 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 633578)
THIS. lol

Idk if i could have said it better myself Danno.

He damn sure better. He's a one trick pony, thats his job.

You know, after further review I'm not convinced he's just a 1 trick pony. I think he gets that reputation because he's very good at rushing the passer, but is merely average or just below average at run defense and coverage.


I don't think he really sucks at anything other than twitter.

dam1953 12-22-2014 06:43 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Lets subtract the times he lost containment from his hurries count and see if we have a positive number?

The Dude 12-22-2014 06:47 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
I agree Danno. I had no idea about that stat. What it tells me is that the talent is there, there is just no cohesiveness. By all accounts that should have made Jorden excel this season. The problem is attitude and mental. Maybe these guys really did get caught up in all the pre season hype.

Sarik 12-22-2014 06:57 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633580)
You know, after further review I'm not convinced he's just a 1 trick pony. I think he gets that reputation because he's very good at rushing the passer, but is merely average or just below average at run defense and coverage.


I don't think he really sucks at anything other than twitter.

Well i see what youre saying, but so often i fail to see him set the edge & he's a liability in coverage, if he does attempt to. I do agree he's probably rite below average, but that doesnt really help his case. His game needs more consistency, he disappears from games completely.

I'll say this, he's not worth the contract he received. Heres to him progressing..

Foot Stomper 12-22-2014 07:32 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
What does QB hurries actually mean? Did it result in negative yards or perhaps an incomplete pass? If not and it only means the QB got the completion off sooner then it is a worthless stat. Give me negative yard plays, or sacks or even QB hits (even if the QB got the ball off the hits add up but we never seem to get QB hits).

This kinda sounds like a stat made up by a players agent.

halloween 65 12-22-2014 07:46 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
I wish JR. would learn to contain better and be flexible enough to play on the inside and out, he would be 1 bad man. Hears to wishing? Maybe 1 of those coaches not named Vitt could get him to turn the corner?

jeanpierre 12-22-2014 07:55 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Trade him for a third round pick and take the cap hit...

Don't need his ilk...

|Mitch| 12-22-2014 08:18 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 633604)
Trade him for a third round pick and take the cap hit...

Don't need his ilk...

A 15 million cap hit with 16 million still in guaranteed... Brilliant :rolleyes:

Jack Vegas 12-22-2014 09:27 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Galette's play isn't the problem. It's that the other guys get no push. All last year it was Galette first to the ball, QB moves to escape and gets nailed by oncoming Jordan/Hicks/Foster. This year it's: Galette flushes QB, QB evades, nobody near him, has all the time in the world to find an open receiver.

I don't care for Junior's twittering and general immaturity, but he plays his ass off every single game. What we need is for Hicks and Jordan to fulfill the potential they showed last year instead of loafing around and being fat and slow. I'm really afraid Jordan is morphing into the fat lazy late career version of Will Smith. Look at his arms next game. That guy hasn't worked out a day in his life. They need to be lifting every day in the offseason.

UK_WhoDat 12-23-2014 08:20 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633580)
...I don't think he really sucks at anything other than twitter.

Doesn't everyone suck at using twatter?

Danno 12-23-2014 08:28 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 633625)
Galette's play isn't the problem. It's that the other guys get no push. All last year it was Galette first to the ball, QB moves to escape and gets nailed by oncoming Jordan/Hicks/Foster. This year it's: Galette flushes QB, QB evades, nobody near him, has all the time in the world to find an open receiver..

I agree, we aren't collapsing the pocket. Good QB's can evade Junior by simply stepping up.

Hicks, Jenkins and Jordan have failed miserably this season.

Mardigras9 12-23-2014 09:05 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633575)
I just want him to STFU and play football.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633580)
I don't think he really sucks at anything other than twitter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 633673)
Hicks, Jenkins and Jordan have failed miserably this season.

Agree with all the above. The fact that Hicks, Jenkins, and Jordan have failed miserably can be blamed for almost all the defensive woes. Our D-backs never had a chance being picked apart, especially once we were patching them together when bodies were falling.

Danno 12-23-2014 09:16 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 633677)
Agree with all the above. The fact that Hicks, Jenkins, and Jordan have failed miserably can be blamed for almost all the defensive woes. Our D-backs never had a chance being picked apart, especially once we were patching them together when bodies were falling.

Agreed. Even mediocre DB's can work out if you have a good pass rush.

Atlanta was 1 more injury away from having to pull someone from the stands and their DB's still performed.

I honestly think Atlanta has a shot to advance a round or two in the playoffs, and it makes me wanna puke.

Cruize 12-23-2014 09:41 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Stupid stat. If you don't actually get there, it really doesn't matter. JR is an overpaid role player. He's not a starting DE because he gets trucked in the run game. He's not nor will he ever be an OLB. Cut bait and move on.

Foot Stomper 12-23-2014 10:01 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 633688)
Stupid stat. If you don't actually get there, it really doesn't matter. JR is an overpaid role player. He's not a starting DE because he gets trucked in the run game. He's not nor will he ever be an OLB. Cut bait and move on.

I also would like more info on this stat. See my post #10.

Sounds like a stat made up by a player agent.

hagan714 12-23-2014 10:48 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
first issue with the front 7

No Rotation to speak of. these guys are on the field way to much.

second issue

starting NT has been a void for years. thought we might have found something last year to work with but at this point not 1 impact starter in the bunch

third issue
overall talent of the LB in this system i rank as serviceable.

topic of Jr? given the three statements above i can bring the hammer down on him. that contract is laughable and i still am amazed we did it. but his over all play?

anchoring the edge D
bull rushing F
pass coverage D
stunts C
speed rush B

Overall grade I

He allows himself to be pushed out of plays way to often and teams us his speed rush against him and run plays underneath him all the time with basic delays.

He has improved but as for a complete rush OLB in a 34 defense he should not be on the field as much as he is.

I no way would i ever consider him a run defender at this point. pass down speed guy. but we do not have the depth to see truly what he can do.

same can be said about the unit as a whole. way to much playing time

Haralson is the best all around 3 down OLB we got hands down. I do not see anything on the bench to step in either to give him a rest. we need more LB like him and stop drafting pass rusher only types

SmashMouth 12-23-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 633574)
Leads the league in Qb hurries.
Still want to get rid of him?

Does he also lead the league in Holding Calls not being called on the Offensive Lineman playing opposite him? :confused:

Rugby Saint II 12-23-2014 12:23 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
It's funny how Gallette went from fan favorite to twitter twit in one year.

Barry from MS 12-23-2014 05:00 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 633700)
first issue with the front 7

No Rotation to speak of. these guys are on the field way to much.

second issue

starting NT has been a void for years. thought we might have found something last year to work with but at this point not 1 impact starter in the bunch

third issue
overall talent of the LB in this system i rank as serviceable.

Kinda sums up the entire defense, and Junior certainly needs to improve in play recognition & gap discipline to help contain in his area of responsibility in run support.

We can sign all the FA shut-down corners in the league & draft all the shut-down corners out there, but if that Front 7 is weak, small, and/or tired, physical NFL teams will beat the hell out of us.

dizzle88 12-23-2014 05:08 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 633784)
Kinda sums up the entire defense, and Junior certainly needs to improve in play recognition & gap discipline to help contain in his area of responsibility in run support.

We can sign all the FA shut-down corners in the league & draft all the shut-down corners out there, but if that Front 7 is weak, small, and/or tired, physical NFL teams will beat the hell out of us.

Which is why teams that are physical up front absolutely killed us

Bengals, Ravens, Cowboys as a couple examples

ChrisXVI 12-23-2014 05:20 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 633724)
It's funny how Gallette went from fan favorite to twitter twit in one year.

Yep... I doubt we'd even have topics like this if he didn't make a mistake and criticize former players. People are so ready to find faults with the guy now. Where's all of the "get rid of Cameron Jordan" talk? At least Junior tried.

The Dude 12-23-2014 05:22 PM

Re: Junior Gallete
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 633688)
Stupid stat. If you don't actually get there, it really doesn't matter. JR is an overpaid role player. He's not a starting DE because he gets trucked in the run game. He's not nor will he ever be an OLB. Cut bait and move on.

Brees threw horrible when under pressure with nobody actually getting there. Led to many of his interceptions. Breese is below average when pressured and he was getting pressured all year.


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