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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 “They haven’t explained anything to me,” is a totally different thing. if after 17 games you do not have a clue why your not playing, it is 1 of 2 things 1 your dumber than a ...

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Old 12-27-2014, 05:14 AM   #1
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Re: Lewis: Saints cornerback Jean-Baptiste waits to take active role, says: 'I can’t figure out what’s going on...I'm feeling lost'

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
“They haven’t explained anything to me,”

is a totally different thing. if after 17 games you do not have a clue why your not playing, it is 1 of 2 things

1 your dumber than a door nail
2 some one is not doing there job

after the way this defense has played all year i lean to #2
It says to me that the guy probably isn't ready but he thinks he is, kinda' like the WR (forgot his name already, :shrug) that they just cut and it's everybody's fault but his own for his lack of playing time, . The one thing it seems they forget to explain along the way to quite a few of these new breed of NFL players is how to be an adult, :shrug.

Also agree with the theory that he might have raw potential and rather than ruin his confidence by burning him out in a no-win situation, they'll take advantage of his rookie status to save him for later. His little whine here does kinda' imply he lacks the maturity to be able to recover from a setback so they might want to handle him with kid gloves & save him the trouble of traumatizing him, .

If it was up to me, I'd put a pair of ice skates on his behind and make him skate with a Junior B team in the off season ... put some hair on his chest, .
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It says to me that the guy probably isn't ready but he thinks he is, kinda' like the WR (forgot his name already, :shrug) that they just cut and it's everybody's fault but his own for his lack of playing time, . The one thing it seems they forget to explain along the way to quite a few of these new breed of NFL players is how to be an adult, :shrug.

Also agree with the theory that he might have raw potential and rather than ruin his confidence by burning him out in a no-win situation, they'll take advantage of his rookie status to save him for later. His little whine here does kinda' imply he lacks the maturity to be able to recover from a setback so they might want to handle him with kid gloves & save him the trouble of traumatizing him, .

If it was up to me, I'd put a pair of ice skates on his behind and make him skate with a Junior B team in the off season ... put some hair on his chest, .
The whole confidence thing is a load of crap. You have it or you don't and you sure as hell don't get it by not playing. If you really want to make something of it; it sounds like they were more detrimental to his confidence by letting car salesman pass him up.

If it were up to me I would put him on Mike Evans and see what he has now rather than betting our cards on him starting next year only come to find out he sucks, once again we would have no #2 CB.
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The whole confidence thing is a load of crap. You have it or you don't and you sure as hell don't get it by not playing. If you really want to make something of it; it sounds like they were more detrimental to his confidence by letting car salesman pass him up.

If it were up to me I would put him on Mike Evans and see what he has now rather than betting our cards on him starting next year only come to find out he sucks, once again we would have no #2 CB.
I would too, hold his feet to the fire and see what he's got, :shrug. Sink or swim, IMO. Only problem is, the NFL is a million/billion dollar business and when you make a decision as a coach (with the exception of Mike Smith), you get it right or you might be gone. Game time is not necessarily the time you want to be proving out a player's playing potential ... you gotta' wonder what SJB has shown them up to this point that would prompt them to bring in less talented (allegedly) guys to take his spot. I do and gotta' figure he's displayed some kind of characteristics that would leave the coaching staff to figure he's not ready to accept failure at the NFL level and if you care about your guys, you do what's necessary to ensure their success. In SJB's case, that probably means sitting him to avoid having him get his butt burned every other play. :shrug.

20-30-40yrs ago I would have agreed with you about the confidence crap, but today's NFL athlete has a different mindset. It's like they're all divas, so sensitive, you can't critique 'em or raise your voice or traumatize 'em or make 'em feel bad about themselves, put 'em in a situation where they can't be successful, et... it's like coaching AYSO soccer for crissake, .

I'm not gonna' put too much of this on the coaching staff, even though I do recognize the comment on how Payton may have the tendency to isolate a player that isn't working out. Are we dealing with men here or are we dealing with 12yr old soccer players? 52, 51, 50 or whatever other players on the team seem to be able to figure out what's going on, what's SJB's major malfunction? Just sayin', :shrug.

Good thread though, ... I'm starting to see what may have been the cause of the Saints difficulties this season. JMO.
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