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UK_WhoDat 12-29-2014 06:09 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 634637)
No excuses should be our motto for next year.

Should be. But it ain't.

There is no excuse. Only reasons. And it seems we are scared to look the reasons straight in the face.

Which is disappointing. Because until we can, we will not deal with the reasons for underperformance.

hagan714 12-29-2014 06:43 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
what we saw was the teams complete roster. not to pretty as a whole. there is a few bright spots but not enough to cover up poor personnel moves.

neugey 12-29-2014 07:19 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 634757)
I want to give Sean at least one more season before I can decide if I want him to stay or go. If he approaches next offseason and season like he did this year,and/or he says he's gonna make big changes,but does very little change,then that shows me that he is stubborn and refuses to adapt and does not have the best intentions for this team. If that's the case,then I'll go down there and pack his bags myself. This is not the first time we've gone 7-9 with him and he's fixed things in the past. Not saying it'll happen this time....hell,it might get a lot worse,but I'm having faith he'll pull through until he proves me wrong.

If we bring Payton back (which is most likely), I just hope the organization makes it known the seat is getting a little hot and that the team needs to play smarter and harder under his watch. If we give Payton the "don't worry, you're good, just do your thing" approach, I fear we'll see more of the same from last season, except worse.

Audiotom 12-29-2014 08:24 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
when the fan base, let alone the opposing team knows exactly what play you have dialed up - there is a problem

when you trade away veteran players on a good d and pay big money for the answer - there is a problem

when you give huge contracts to people who then under perform - there is a problem

when simple fundamentals like wrapping up on a tackle are not corrected week after week - there is a problem

when you are more concerned with social media than solid football - there is a problem

Mardigras9 12-29-2014 09:03 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
Hey we beat the AFC north and NFC north division champs, and split with the NFC south division champs (if you want to throw that in) this year.

Payton will right the ship for next year, this season is a hard one for him to swallow.

Rugby Saint II 12-29-2014 01:55 PM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
This team comes back well from an off season after a poor showing the year before. We are a consistent winner that back slides occasionally. We are a perennial power house and will get things back on track again after a little tinkering to the O-line and some good moves in free agency. We will be back to a 13-3 record or better again. Self scrutiny is humbling and sometimes necessary.

vpheughan 12-30-2014 07:28 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
Truth is it's a "What have you done for me lately" occupation. Produce or go!

UK_WhoDat 12-30-2014 11:27 AM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 634816)
If we bring Payton back (which is most likely), I just hope the organization makes it known the seat is getting a little hot and that the team needs to play smarter and harder under his watch. ....

Tell him we will pay for results. If he doesn't like that, that tells all.
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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 634868)
.....Payton will right the ship for next year, this season is a hard one for him to swallow.

I hope it is a hard to swallow. There are many Saints fans reeling also.
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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 634868)
Hey we beat the AFC north and NFC north division champs, and split with the NFC south division champs (if you want to throw that in) this year.

and we lost to?

It is the half full / half empty approach. Which is correct?
Tune next season, same time, same channel.

pinch 12-30-2014 03:03 PM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
I think what we might have seen over the last couple of seasons is the "Tiger Woods" effect. Remember back when Tiger was setting the world on fire? That was also the time when he was banging every woman within eye sight.

That was the Tiger that was so relaxed he could hit a 50 foot putt with his eyes closed. As long as the poon-tang was free-flowing, Tiger was untouchable. Unfortunately, as soon as the train of skanks came to an end, so did Tiger's game. He has never been the same.

Now I'm not saying that Peyton was cheating on his wife, but the timeframe in which he was reported to be "feasting on the bearded oyster" was also the time we were winning Division Championships and Superbowl Titles. He's now back in a steady, monogamous relationship and our club is in shambles.

Just a theory.

ChrisXVI 12-30-2014 03:20 PM

Re: The few excuses I can make for Sean Payton
 
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Originally Posted by pinch (Post 635304)
I think what we might have seen over the last couple of seasons is the "Tiger Woods" effect. Remember back when Tiger was setting the world on fire? That was also the time when he was banging every woman within eye sight.

That was the Tiger that was so relaxed he could hit a 50 foot putt with his eyes closed. As long as the poon-tang was free-flowing, Tiger was untouchable. Unfortunately, as soon as the train of skanks came to an end, so did Tiger's game. He has never been the same.

Now I'm not saying that Peyton was cheating on his wife, but the timeframe in which he was reported to be "feasting on the bearded oyster" was also the time we were winning Division Championships and Superbowl Titles. He's now back in a steady, monogamous relationship and our club is in shambles.

Just a theory.

Come on man... That's just crazy and disrespectful.


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