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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 634824)

If we take another WR in the first 3 picks of this draft...

The last thing we need is a WR...

We should draft nothing but O-line/D-line or LBs with the first 3 picks. Or we could take another WR toy for Payton and blow another draft.

I also completely disagree with everyone's hype about Shaq. His defensive plays are average at best and is only hyped because of his RB ability, but watch the guy run, he never gets touched because the holes are huge.

Shaq=overrated

Agreed, if you throw CB in there as well.

But once again, free agency will alter our draft plans.

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I think that we get solid corner in free agency so we can draft one in later rounds.

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Are there any decent corners that are free agents this year?

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As long as its OL or DL I don't care.

We need to revamp the lines BIGTIME. BPA on the OL and DL or if its a QB WHAAAAT?!?!?!?!

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 634893)

Are there any decent corners that are free agents this year?

Cromartie (had better season than P. Peterson), Flowers, Perrish Cox (great season), Byron Maxwell (but I will be extremely careful with Seattle players, great system, average players look great)

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 634897)

Cromartie (had better season than P. Peterson), Flowers, Perrish Cox (great season), Byron Maxwell (but I will be extremely careful with Seattle players, great system, average players look great)

Example number 1 - David Hawthorne

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 634796)

actually like this range in the draft. over hyped combine beauty queens are usually off the board and the runner ups are a bit of a reach from up here.

Brandon Scherff ? Cedric Ogbuehi? La'el Collins? T.J. Clemmings?

Do have some things in common.
none are LT.
Might be RT
Might be better off inside at OG.

kinda of a funky spot for OT.

Ronnie Stanley ND Jr if he declares looks to be the best true OT that might be on the board. he is young and until the beauty show is over how big of a reach he will be is yet to be determined.

So go with Brandon Scherff or La'el Collins with the idea that OG is were they might end up and one of our high priced OG becomes a Cap causality this year or next.

rounds 2
I would love the versatile Cameron Erving OC/OG/ROT he would settle in as a starter some where. but i think we just played him off our board.

Ty Sambrailo ROT/OG is the pick. yet another player that can slide inside to OG. he needs some grooming and exposure to DE and OLB at the NFL level coming from Colorado St. but iMO he can handle it. like Brandon Scherff and La'el Collins girth and aggression are proper catch phases for them all.

One of the two should be able to man the RT while the other allows us cap room by sliding inside within a two year window. might get lucky and it right of camp. worse case we might have both OG replacement in 2016 and freeing up a ton of cap space to sign a FA ROT. either way i think these two picks are high rewards with low risk moves that can solve a lot issues that the saints will be facing in the next two years. plus they both will be improvement to depth and help keep Drew alive. ideal world we drafted the starting right side of the oL for years to come and have Zach as our back up swing man in the wings

catch in round 2 what player best fits SP desire for toys in the draft?

Ameer Abdullah Neb. every time i have watch him I just see SP lighting up like a three year old at christmas time. second coming of Darrin Sproles? i just have that gut feeling like i did with Cook this is the SP toy for 2015. If we do get Ameer it would allow Cook to be more of a WR than a gimmick. which would be huge ofr the saints. have to admit Cook one side and Ameer in motion to the opposite side of the field would cause issues for defenses. flash back to days gone by

The problem with Abdullah is he will not be an impact player I don't think seeing SJB who came from the same team isn't one. It depends how he looked against OSU and MSU, since those are the heavyweights in that conference. And he had a 27-88 and 6-61 line against USC when he had 200 yards against the likes of Illinoise and Rutgers. However, he had 18-69 against Wisconsin and while two TDs, he had 24-45 against MSU. He did have a good game against Miami, but the stat line against those two schools says a lot.

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 634824)

If we take another WR in the first 3 picks of this draft...

The last thing we need is a WR...

We should draft nothing but O-line/D-line or LBs with the first 3 picks. Or we could take another WR toy for Payton and blow another draft.

I also completely disagree with everyone's hype about Shaq. His defensive plays are average at best and is only hyped because of his RB ability, but watch the guy run, he never gets touched because the holes are huge.

Shaq=overrated

About Shaq I agree. I was about to bring this up because I had thought of something. What two players came from Washington and one has not proven to stay healthy and the other had a terrible rookie campaign behind a strong OL? Jake Locker and Bishop Sankey! Enough said, he may have made some mind blowing plays but this is another risk/reward player. Now Anthony Barr did pan out well but Barr comes from one of the strongest defensive schools UCLA a attractive school that can recruit five stars. I prefer Ray, then Beasley and if neither fall to us then we should just get Collins for OT or MicKinnley for ILB.

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 634893)

Are there any decent corners that are free agents this year?

Darius Butler from the Colts would be a good pickup for us IMO. He's not going to wow anybody but he's rock-solid. Kind of similar to Randall Gay, if you remember how he played.

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All I know is that we better draft ILB OLB DT CB OG/T in the first 3 rounds. Hopefully a stud player falls on our lap.

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 635067)

Darius Butler from the Colts would be a good pickup for us IMO. He's not going to wow anybody but he's rock-solid. Kind of similar to Randall Gay, if you remember how he played.

Would love to have him, he is solid as you mentioned.

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I could see Beasley being another Dion Jordan. I'm not keen on these 230lb rushers. Not all can put on another 15-25lb and be effective. Very few can stand up to the run either.

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 635067)

Darius Butler from the Colts would be a good pickup for us IMO. He's not going to wow anybody but he's rock-solid. Kind of similar to Randall Gay, if you remember how he played.

i just can not imagine the colts letting him slip out of town. he has come a long way since being with pats. cheap solid players are hard to get

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The Colts have all kinds of DBs though. They traded Marcus Burley to the Seahawks in preseason, and he ended up playing nickel for the Seahawks and became a huge part of their defense. And he was only the 6th guy on the Colts depth chart at CB - I was screaming at the time for the Saints to go get him - but the point is they have a ton of good young DBs over there who will be pushing for more playing time. So I would not be surprised at all if they let Butler leave in FA.

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Cant believe that no one is mentioning cb.

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 635415)

Cant believe that no one is mentioning cb.

It is our most glaring weakness, in fact its blinding.

Looking at draft reports there really aren't a whole lot of CB's in the top 20 yet.

Trae Waynes is about it until the late 1st, early 2nd.

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 635415)

Cant believe that no one is mentioning cb.

Better sign FA vet than draft one in early rounds. Do you believe that we can help him develop and live up to his draft status?

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 635424)

Better sign FA vet than draft one in early rounds. Do you believe that we can help him develop and live up to his draft status?

I hear you I just hope we have the cap room to do that. It seems like we have so many holes and at the beginning of the season I thought it was going to be the best Saints team ever.

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 635417)

It is our most glaring weakness, in fact its blinding.

Looking at draft reports there really aren't a whole lot of CB's in the top 20 yet.

Trae Waynes is about it until the late 1st, early 2nd.

It would be nice to get a good corner in the third or fourth. I just hope the one we took in the second this year turns out ok.

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if a cb falls into our laps in the third better grab him. after that i see a ton of long term projects on the board. SJB would be a 3/4 or 4th rounder in the draft even with the same hype.

plenty of solid #2 CB with a high ceiling and a high floor in the first to rounds. man cover talent looks good

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 634683)

Saints select Dante Fowler de/old Florida ... that's what the mock draft says anyway lol

Man I would love that! He was one of the best players if not the best I watched in college this year. Very often unblockable.