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I loved Kenny Phillips coming out of Miami.

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I loved him too... thought he was easily going to be a star. It just goes to show that great talent and athleticism doesn't always translate if you can't overcome the the mental aspect of the game.

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Another safety?

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I think someone needs to hold an intervention for Loomis... He's addicted to signing safeties.

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I remember when coming out of the U, he was compared to Sean Taylor. While healthy with the Giants, he was a decent SS. Kind of roamed around like a LB. More importantly he is an aggressive tackler.

I'll keep a lazy eye on him going forward ;).

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A Pro Bowl-caliber safety early in his career, Phillips has lost a few steps because of chronic knee injuries. He missed the Eagles' past two preseason games with a quadriceps issue.

Kenny Phillips released by Philadelphia Eagles - NFL.com

thus the futures contract. rolling the dice on yet another player with a long list of injuries grrrrrr. make matters worse yet another SS. I think we are a bit lost at what to do back there.

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Bye Bye Kenny (the other one)

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And Kennys...

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So that's
Kenny Vaccaro,
Jarius Byrd,
Raphael Bush,
Vinnie Sunseri,
Marcus Ball,
Pierre Warren,
Jamarca Sanford,
Corey White (Now Listed As A Safety On Roster, source: New Orleans Saints | Roster)
Stanley Jean-Baptiste (Whose been listed as a Safety on Inactive Game Day Reports)
and now Kenny Phillips

Now, I really liked Phillips, he's just had the chronic knee thing going on, but, I mean, c'mon, are we trying to send one of the aforementioned a message?!?

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This is to mentor Vaccaro type a deal.

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I think it's Bush they let go. He didn't step up more as a player thats been here longer. I hope we get a good year from Phillips, I love his smarts and a hard hitter.

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I feel like we might have a steal with Kenny Phillips. Byrd is injury prone his damn self.

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Rob Ryan is just as mule headed as Spaz.
come hell or high water this system will work!
Hey Rob you hit rock bottom again already.

hint: safety aint the issue Rob.

lets break that down a bit

FS
Jarius Byrd,
Pierre Warren,
Stanley Jean-Baptiste

SS
Raphael Bush
Vinnie Sunseri,

Kenny V is not a true SS as Rob and Kenny both admit now :dunce:

So now let me get this straight :brood:

Corey White at safety? his biggest issue is down field coverage and he is a safety? who has their head up where with this one. :dunce:

the rest? we will see no loss if they walk. oppss i am relying on the same brain trust that cut warren and thought they had harpers replacement?

yee haw drafting CB and singing FA CB must be high on the wish list for 2015.

oppsss are we starting 5 or maybe 6 safeties next year? is that the new plan?:rolleyes:

Solution resign Harper

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Let me guess, He's a BEAST!!! Thought so!

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I am still a little skeptical that all parties involved have been telling the whole truth about Byrd's various injuries and surgeries. My eyes have yet to see him make a real difference in a game in a Saints uniform, so...it's looking like an interesting off season already.

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SJB now labeled a FS on our roster? When did this change?

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well to be honest, no one on the defense made a real difference in a game this year. Lewis is arguably the best player on the defense and even he didn't have "real difference" on the defense this year

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My assessment on Vacarro is he just had a sophomore slump on a defense with no leaders to corral him in. Nobody can tell me they didn't think he was a star after his first year. I expect us to see him play at a high level next year. Bush is probably a cap casualty. And we can't trust Byrd to stay healthy. Thus, we have Phillips. Phillips is really good peeps. 82 tackles and 4 interceptions a couple years ago. As long as he's healthy...

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It hasn't, still listed as a CB on the site.

Not that it matters, he might be playing QB for all he knows since no one actually talks to the players.

Phillips is very impressive when healthy but he has been fighting injuries over the last few years, however if he has done a good job rehabbing over that time he might be healthy in 2015. Phillips is a true SS that plays coverage very well also, he is a very well rounded player.

Assuming health is not an issue here is what the 2 and 3 Safety sets should look like next year:
Two set:
FS:Byrd
SS: Phillips

Three set:
FS: Byrd
SS: Warren
S/NB: Phillips

Vaccaro might be better suited to play CB since a lot of his time in college and in 2013 was covering the slot WR. Last year Vaccaro even matched up against guys like Steve Smith and Vincent Jackson so perhaps the solution to our #2 CB spot is there, maybe...

At this point I think it's clear the team doesn't think Vaccaro is the best option at Safety, I just hope this isn't yet another defensive draft bust.

Here are some highlights of Phillips for those of you who have not seen him play:

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His back pedal and hip movement is gorgeous. It's better then most corners. It's like somebody is user controlling him on madden.

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Kenny P has the skills, highlights & hardware but can he stay healthy in Black and Gold? The bad wheel (knee) is a concern. Philly must have seen enough not to gamble on him a couple of years ago.

Time will tell.

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And they had/have terrible safeties.

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It looks like the FO is trying to give RR the tools to succeed by bringing in more safeties.