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I'm usually a reader and not a poster but I can't help myself right now.

What the Saints team needs right now is a more supportive fan base!

I wanted Haslett to get fired until I saw the change in the team the last four weeks of the season. It was obvious there was something different regardless of playing weak teams (WE PLAYED WEAK TEAMS EARLY IN THE SEASON AND LOST REMEMBER??).

Our team will continue to fail at home if we boo them out of the building. How can you be. There is a difference between constructive and DESTRUCTIVE criticism. We don't work for the team so we have no business thinking we are right when it comes to team decisions.

Word of mouth is a powerful thing. If we treat our team and players like s**t, we will run both the players and/or team out of town as well as prevent good free agents from wanting to come to our great team and city. You've got to be a complete not to see that.

Also, if I hear one more person who wants to perform on Jake Delhomme my head will explode!

There's a team in Green Bay that is continuously in the hunt and no matter what their fans are there to support them.

I wish I could see more Saints fans online who fully support their team. There are enough Saints bashers who aren't even Saints fans.

Let it be said that unlike the fake Saints fans, when next season comes I will fully support the players, coaches, owner and entire team! I in the general direction of the who say they will sell their season tickets and boycott the team. Thats a fast and easy way to lose the team....which means lost revenue...which means lots of lost jobs...which means New Orleans depends on the stupid tourists who dirty up the Quarter once a year....and I don't particularly like that idea.



[Edited on 10/1/2005 by JOESAM2002]

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[Edited on 9/1/2005 by Tobias-Reiper]

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I\'m with you Tobias. Either this post is deleted or we all get free rain to call those who disagree with us \"idiots\" and \"stupid\" and wanting to \"perform fellatio on Jake Delhomme.\"

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alsaints113, aThe language that you chose to use in some cases will not be tolerated. You cannot call other members idiots. If you think so, keep it to yourself.

As for saintswhodi and Tobias-reiper, I will not delete the post just because some of use don\'t agree with it. I also will NOT give you the go ahead to rip on him.

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alsaints113 just

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[/quote:bb27858844]There\'s a team in Green Bay that is continuously in the hunt and no matter what their fans are there to support them.[/quote:bb27858844]

Would that be the same team that won the first two Superbowls and a third one later...the same team whose coach the Superbowl trophy is named after? Or would that be the team that is about to play in the playoffs today...again? Isn\'t that the team that has a QB from close to the NO area that has himself become a legend...and is not even the first QB from that team to reach legendary status? Isn\'t that the same team that has produced a line of hall-of-famers?

I don\'t know why people are so supportive of that team.



[Edited on 9/1/2005 by Saint_LB]

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I don\'t have a problem with the post at all.
I think the fan base is extremely loyal, but hardly supportive.
Jim Haslet has made comments about the negativity of the fans, so has Joe Horn and Aaron Brooks as well as other players. Sometimes where there\'s smoke...
The vast majority of the fan base here sees the negative in virtually every move/decision this team makes. I can see how that could irritate players and coaches.

If we win, its because the other team screwed up, or had a key player out, or we just got lucky cause we shoulda lost.

If we lose its because the other team is simply better, no excuses.

We had a defense on pace to finish worse than any defense in the history of the NFL and a popular local talk show debated how Brooks must go for a freaking hour.

But on the other hand this franchise has given us very little to be positive about. I\'d say if we had a little playoff and superbowl success splatterd among our team\'s history the negativity wouldn\'t nearly be as bad.

The fans of this team are frustrated and have been frustrated for 30 plus years. Many release that frustration by airing it out publicly on local talk shows, in the papers, on the streets and in the stands. I don\'t like it, but I certainly understand.

If this team had a history similar to the Packers, then fell on hard times I think the last 4 or 5 seasons would not bring as much contempt. But we don\'t. After our 1st playoff victory the only thing this city talked about was Saints football.
If we had just average success (odds calculate to a playoff appearance about every 3 years) the positive support for this team would blow the roof off the dome.

I don\'t agree cmpletely with alsaints post, but I can\'t find a lot wrong with it either.

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Green Bay????!!???
Did you see the games early when they were getting killed... fans were not there and in complete shock. The poured out of the place in droves.

The key here is you win... fans will support.
You lose -well... they hate ya.



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:thumbup: alsaints113

I agree with you......
That is why the team play better game away than they do at home. Think bout it they played a game against a team that everyone in the media plus fans on this site thought they would lose to(Carolina). Thnking hard bout it I think they would\'ve lost if they played Carolina at home. No fans support at all.

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I am not in a position to make a judgement...........

Well I have only seen the Saints 4 times in the Superdome.

The last time - I saw every snap; shouting FOR the Saints; bawling the opposition and stripes for \"bad\" hits / calls against the Saints.

Everyone around just seemed to keep looking at me - wondering what the hell was going on.

My partner thought I was just supporting the Saints. :D

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Well, I posted this messsage on the nola.com forum too.

I\'m glad there are a few people on that site and here (Danno, bayouking, and UK_Whodat) who got the point I was trying to make. Of course other people just saw the Green Bay comment and tore that up. And yes I know that the Packers are a consistently good team. My point was that you don\'t see Packers fans trying to destroy their team in the bad times.

People talking about boycotting the team and selling season tickets and all that is what inspired that post. Too many fans are trying to tear the team down and drive the team out of town who also claim they are fans. You can\'t be both! I will support the Saints no matter what! Us fans don\'t know the inner workings of the franchise and we can do nothing about it. By \"boycotting\" them, they lose money and we lose the team. That would do nothing but hurt an already hurting city and state.

I\'m glad to see that some people got the gist of my post but unfortunately others put it into their own context. And of course from the number of deleted and edited replies, some took it personally... feeling guilty?

For the admins, sorry for any \"language\". I simply copied my nola.com post here and I don\'t post enough to know all the rules.

Here are some replies to my nola.com post http://www.nola.com/forums/saints/:

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I\'m with you man. Most of the characters on this forum think they know what the Saints need as gospel truth. If anyone on this forum had any sense of what creates positive performance in any arena, it is unconditional support. When you are down, the last thing you need is a kick in the shin, screw you, you\'re no good, get rid of you type of attitude. When someone has faith and confidence in you, you want to get up and play your best. Positive fan attitude gives that little edge that makes a huge difference. I\'m with you Saints. Count on me.

Heres another (I need to be fair and include the bad ones...I don\'t want to be accused of having an agenda):

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Hello Jim Haslett!

I hope some people will understand how much some of the things people are saying nd saying about doing will hurt the Saints. It\'s not cool at all and disgusts me as a long time loyal Saints fans. If we survived thorugh the Billy Joe\'s we can survive anything!

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i dont think anyone feels guilty for negative comments when your team comes out and stinks the joint up. what would make you think that. some people just didnt like your post and im one of them. im not an idiot and wont listen to you tell me i am because i dont blindly support the org. when their playing terrible. its not loosing its the half arse effort we got in so many games this year. im not going to stand by and support that. it doesnt make me any less of a fan or anyone else on here either

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Nice spk. I guess when you no longer wanna accept mediocrity and expect this team to start winning with the talent it has, you are allowed to get called an idiot and talked down to. Even the Chargers are winning now. And the Cards. And the Bengals. How long are we gonna be the laughing stock? Oh, but don\'t ask that, shetup and be loyal. LMAO.

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I\'ve read on here that some fans only post when they can be negative.

That explained a lot to me.

I\'ll bet those folks are bad in relationships. Never anything positive to say, they just like to *****!!

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Hmmm, a nasty prospect. Would your head literally explode? I\'m sure we could find someone down at the Clover Grill that would post here.

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I\'ve got to say alsaints113 really does have a legitimate point. I get negative on the saints too. I may not post it all here but trust me, sometimes I hate Mondays and the people who work with me know why. I get ticked off because just once I want to be the one bragging about how good my team is. Instead, I just kind of sit there, make the occasional sarcastic comment about how I\'m a real fan because I keep sticking with the Saints, and then usually I pout a little bit. The fans of this franchise have gotten used to being negative. I feel like you almost can\'t help it. We\'ve been teased for years and years.

I remember when Bum Philips came and brought Earl Campbell and Kenny Stabler with him. We came close to success but never really touched it. Then Jim Mora came. He gave us dominating defenses, and fairly decent offenses. I remember the heart that guys like Ricky Jackson and Dalton Hilliard used to show out there on the Dome turf. We got to the playoffs, and then imploded. Mike Ditka came then, and us fans thought \"Hey, here\'s a proven guy who willed a team to be dominant and win a Super Bowl\". Well, that may have been the case with the Bears, but we all know how that turned out with the Saints. And now we have Haslett, the man who took us to our first ever playoff victory. All of us felt that with the personnel that we had in place we were on the verge of having a super successful run of 3-5 years at the least. But, it has been nothing but one disappointment after another.

I\'ll agree that we need to be more positive when it comes to our team. However, don\'t tell those of us that can\'t always be positive that we\'re not real fans. I have earned the right to be critical of this team. I will ALWAYS support this team, but I need to be able to vent to people that can relate to my frustration. There are lots of positive posts on this board and some of them are mine. But venting here and reading posts from like-minded individuals KEEPS me a fan of this team. Otherwise I might have given up a long time ago. If you don\'t like some of the things that get said, then don\'t read it. By the way, I\'m pretty sure the team is going to get a share of the money I spent on my Duece jersey and my Saints football. I support my team.

Now after all that I hope we kick the ENTIRE NFL\'s @$$ NEXT YEAR!!!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!!


[Edited on 10/1/2005 by kevinn1972]

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Personally I very rarely boo the Saints but I think the fans have every right to boo when they stink up the joint. Especially when it doesn\'t look like they are playing with any passion. Heck -- even Benson booed them this year.

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Boys, ya\'ll need to chill.Everyone gets the same treatment from me. If you don\'t believe it, try me! :D

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Why BMG, whatever are you implying about the Grill? LOL

Just hope the head exploding doesn\'t take place WHILE \"performing on\" Delhomme ... that\'s truly a nasty prospect.