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$20 Million over the Cap in 2015. What would you do?
The numbers on the left indicates the cap savings (gain) if we release the player after June 1, 2015. The numbers on the right indicates the dead money cap hit (loss) to release the player.
Listed here are players who may be considered for contract reconstruction or possibly cut to save cap room. Something has to be done. What would you do here? If you make a cut, who would replace that player? Jarhi Evans +$7,500,000 -$3,500,000 Ben Grubs +$6,600,000 -$3,000,000 Marques Colston +$7,000,000 -$3,000,000 Brodrick Bunkley +$4,500,000 -$1,612,000 David Hawthrone +$4,500,000 -$1,510,000 Pierrie Thomas +$2,150,000 -$415,000 Ben Watson +$1,500,000 -$400,000 Here are some players that could consider a contract reconstruction, but most people would be in favor of them not getting cut. Drew Brews $26,400,000 (Cap Hit for 2015) Curtis Lofton $9,000,000 (Cap Hit for 2015) Would you resign any of our key free agents? Mark Ingram, Patrick Robinson? Are there any players you would consider trading? Jimmy Graham, Jairus Byrd, Kenny Vaccaro? |
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What would I do? Whatever Loomis would do.
Drew has said he'd restructure. Colston is a class act and the consummate Saint. What he isn't, (anymore) is a $7000000 receiver. A few more new deals and we are cap-compliant, no worries. Loomis will find every nickel: Meachem and S. Graham weren't on the roster at final cuts, and both came back at a discount. It's just what the guy does |
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Trade Byrd and Vaccaro; insanity I say!
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Welcome to B&G JonBoy :bng:
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Re: $20 Million over the Cap in 2015. What would you do?
Restructure (or reduce pay) Brees, Galette, Grubbs, Evans, Lofton, Colston and Bunkley to free up 40 million in cap space.
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Thanks for the friendly welcome. I've noticed there is a lot more optimism on this forum versus the one on the saintsreportforum.
Trust in Mickey! I like that Philosophy! |
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why cry over spilled milk anyways? Just clean it up. Besides not all of the milk ends up on the floor there is always something left in the glass :bng:as long as you have hope there is a way |
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been reading and doing some digging on this topic.
http://blackandgold.com/blogs/hagan7...er-budget.html we are not as dead in the water as people make us out to be. I also would like to thank the many posters here for making it easy to round up info. bang up job once again gang |
Re: $20 Million over the Cap in 2015. What would you do?
This is easy.
Restructure Brees, restructure Galette. BAM! You're right at the cap, and those were moves that Loomis set up well in advance knowing what he would need to do. Cutting some dead weight in Hawthorne and Bunkley, then reworking Lofton and extending Cam Jordan to a reasonable deal (say 4 years, 32 million) puts you 8 million under the cap. And those are just the no-brainer moves. The tougher decisions are still to be made, maybe you part ways with Colston, Grubbs, Evans or PT. But we'll have plenty of cap room either way with a minimum of quality players lost. We can easily be $15 million under by the start of free agency. |
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you save more money cap wise restructuring Colston than cutting him.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Ben Grubbs & Jahri Evans cut.
Move Tim Lelito to guard. Sign G Mike Iupati, and C Stefen Wisniewski. Draft a couple interior lineman in the draft for depth & to develop. Sign Reggie Bush cheap, and mostly as a primary 3rd down back. Draft a RB somewhere in the draft. Sign Antonio Cormartie. If Vaccaro gets it together and Byrd stays healthy, we'd have a decent secondary. Draft an OLB with the 13th pick to play opposite of Galette. Cut Bunkley & Hawthrone Have some faith in the young blood to step in and fill roles. |
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Don't want Bush back,injuries are affecting him more than PT. Thomas is cheap can do everything and should be kept.
I wonder how much of Evans and Grubbs struggles are due to Goodwin being both past his best and constantly struggling with injuries rather than there poor play. Get somebody like Collins or Erving who can potentially play at T or G and if the beat out one of the Vets great or they play the swing back up for a year to come in next year |
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Gallete has taken care of himself. He won't be back.
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I like the preseason trade if need be for Evans & Grubb.
If Galette is gone. Maybe Edabali can fill his role & add $10+ million to the cap. Draft another OLB opposite. Sign more players with the added cap space. |
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Don't think Galette will be gone,that 12ml roster bonus is fully guaranteed
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...88&src=desktop |
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No way we could get rid of Galette, unless his contract is voided somehow
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Absolutely tragic. The guy comes from nowhere to be on a contract that exceeds all the lifetime wealth of blackandgold.com's membership. |
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I just read fully guaranteed! Dang!
I'd rather see a cut with $15 million added to the cap in 2015. That could definitely sign two notable defensive players like an OLB + a CB. |
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It's a roster bonus. It is only "fully guaranteed" if he is on the roster. |
Re: $20 Million over the Cap in 2015. What would you do?
Restructure Brees: save 15 mil
Restructure Gallete: save 10 mil Done your 5 mil under the cap and can still make other moves to get more FA signings... that was easy. Stop worrying about the CAP. |
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It's a fully guranteed roster bonus. Now, if it wasn't guaranteed, you would be right and it would be paid only if he is on the roster. But writing the guaranteed money as a roster bonus only changes the way it is paid and accounted for. |
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Colston Grubbs and Evens in 2016 are huge cap causality targets and they know it
cut bait before 2016 in savings Evens around 8 mill Grubbs around 7 mill Colston about 7 mill if i remember correctly. so redoing their contracts would behoove them all because odds are they will never see that year of the contract. Which they already knew. that is why i say address OL now in the draft early. you have some serious depth for players with that RT/OG ability. top of the draft we have not seen two in years. shame to miss out on youth with solid low risk high reward players. you save more redoing those contracts this year than cutting same goes for Curtis Lofton but his cut bait date 2017. but i am expecting him to redo that contract also. |
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A roster bonus is a bonus that a player gets because he's on the roster on a specific date. Every offseason you hear of players who get cut - i.e., they are removed from the roster - before roster bonuses are due because teams don't want to pay roster bonuses. |
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