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Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 10:40 AM

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- We're not really over the salary cap. We have a lot of mechanisms in place to get under the cap. We're in a better position than we were this time last year.

- Don't know much about Galette. Let the legal process play out.

- SJB has a lot of great traits as a corner. Was not ready to play. Some draft picks take a while to acclimate.

- Ian Rappoport report that Pace taking over at GM. Basically called Rappoport incompetent. "I think he's got about a 30% accuracy rate on his reports"

Transcript: Q&A: Mickey Loomis' end of season press conference

Related article: Five takeaways from Mickey Loomis

Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 10:43 AM

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- Still in early process. Looking at every aspect. Scouting, coaching, players. Everything we do. Have to be honest with ourselves about some things that aren't working anymore. Not willing to discuss a lot of that right now.

- Pace interviewing for two GM jobs.

- Loomis involvement with Pelicans is "overblown". He is almost solely focused on the Saints.

- 7 and 9 is not acceptable for us.

Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 10:47 AM

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- We have some core values we instituted when SP took over. We have to revisit those and make sure they are being implemented in the locker room. We have to look at ourselves and make sure we're not straying from our core principles.

- I have to look at what I do. Sean needs to do the same thing. Having some very frank conversations with SP about each other and our failings.

- Frustrating. Expected some results that we didn't get.

Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 10:49 AM

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- Hard to make a training camp tougher these days with the new rules. I felt like things we did in West Virginia was a good experience. That's not the reason we were 7-9. We had good focus. I'm not concerned about that being part of the problem. I actually think it's part of the solution. We plan to be back in West Virginia. There are some things we will do a little differently though.

Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 10:51 AM

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My feed stopped there.

papz 01-06-2015 11:03 AM

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Appreciate the tidbits.

Live updates from Mickey Loomis' media availability

I'll try to post the final transcript once it's up.

Foot Stomper 01-06-2015 11:08 AM

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Salary Cap is nothing more than an accounting inconvenience. Someone else mentioned that last week. Salary cap I am not worried about it. It is who we are paying with our Salary cap that worry's me. We need hungry football players that we simply don't have right now.

Halo 01-06-2015 11:09 AM

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Nice work Jack Vegas!

Rugby Saint II 01-06-2015 11:20 AM

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So, he finally gets to tell Sean what he really thinks. :wink:

Danno 01-06-2015 11:34 AM

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Liked…
Greenbriar wasn’t the problem
Mistakes were made (referencing locker room)
Not happy with personnel decisions, will address
SJB is simply taking longer than expected
Better cap wise than last year...Love this line
We're not really over the salary cap. We have a lot of mechanisms in place to get under the cap.


"Are we scouting correctly? Are we making the right personnel decisions? Are we giving the coaches what they need to be successful? Everything is open for discussion."

Beastmode 01-06-2015 11:46 AM

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Disagree with West Virgina. The weather is too mild. The defense had no intensity to push through in the 4th quarter, they often looked whiffed. This is a staple of military training, they train in harsh conditions for a reason and it also builds tight bonds having suffered through something together.

Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 636518)
Disagree with West Virgina. The weather is too mild. The defense had no intensity to push through in the 4th quarter, they often looked whiffed. This is a staple of military training, they train in harsh conditions for a reason and it also builds tight bonds having suffered through something together.

Training camps aren't what they used to be. There are no more two-a-days. One practice a day and there are limits as to how grueling it can be. These things are supervised by the NFL. Loomis made a point to mention that.

I don't see any point in going out in the heat if practice isn't not long enough and you spend half of your limited practice time re-hydrating and working out cramps.

Danno 01-06-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 636518)
Disagree with West Virgina. The weather is too mild. The defense had no intensity to push through in the 4th quarter, they often looked whiffed. This is a staple of military training, they train in harsh conditions for a reason and it also builds tight bonds having suffered through something together.

Most of the NFL trains away from the intense heat. It doesn't hurt them at all.

Cruize 01-06-2015 12:04 PM

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News conferences like this are a waste of time. The original reason for less contact and such was less injuries. I hope they look at the stats. It didn't lessen the injuries for the Saints. One could easily argue less contact means being in less football shape and actually leads to more injuries on gameday.

saintfan 01-06-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 636508)
Nice work Jack Vegas!

I second that! :bng:

Rsanders24 01-06-2015 12:13 PM

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So does this mean Rob Ryan is staying? I was expecting to hear some more changes...

Jack Vegas 01-06-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 636525)
So does this mean Rob Ryan is staying? I was expecting to hear some more changes...

He wouldn't talk about any personnel or coaching changes except to say everything is under evaluation.

Danno 01-06-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 636528)
He wouldn't talk about any personnel or coaching changes except to say everything is under evaluation.

Might also be waiting for the playoffs to end. We could be eyeing someone in the final 8.

Mr.Riaton 01-06-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 636520)
Most of the NFL trains away from the intense heat. It doesn't hurt them at all.

Good point

Beastmode 01-06-2015 04:13 PM

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I'm not a doctor or scientist but it's common knowledge that the body, when exposed to extremes, the physiology of the body changes. It adapts to heat, cold, high elevation. Training in the heat, cells start becoming more efficient conserving water, the mind breaks the mental barrier as well from being hot and pushing on. There would be a lot of IV's at first then some then hardly any. Maybe the training is not as intense as before, but in short burst in heat it would have an effect on some level.

hagan714 01-06-2015 07:39 PM

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West Virgina?

millionaire babies the lot of them.

I want more money, i want to work less. I do not want to take any risks

The NFL is imploding before our eyes.

What do you expect from a group that turns down life time insurance for more money and still demands rule changes?

West Virgina?

i would take the team to the Jim Jones training camp in Georgetown Guyana.

that might get their attention.

Beastmode 01-06-2015 08:00 PM

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It comes down to doing all the little things, things that Payton really took his eye off of this season. I'm paraphrasing, but somewhere he stated that too much leverage was given to players to do the right thing...showing up to meeting on time, showing up to the plane on time.

Those are the things that separate winners from losers. All those micro improvements or tiny bags of coin as I like to say, add up to something. That something could have made us a 10 win team this season. We lost 4 games I know of because of it. That is on the shoulders of the leadership.

Saint in Aus 01-06-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 636547)
I'm not a doctor or scientist but it's common knowledge that the body, when exposed to extremes, the physiology of the body changes. It adapts to heat, cold, high elevation. Training in the heat, cells start becoming more efficient conserving water, the mind breaks the mental barrier as well from being hot and pushing on. There would be a lot of IV's at first then some then hardly any. Maybe the training is not as intense as before, but in short burst in heat it would have an effect on some level.

Its like any form of training though, if you do not do it on a consistent basis the benefits of that training quickly dissipates. As soon as the players come back home to continue their training those high altitude or high temperature benefits are replaced as the body adapts to the home climate.

Pretty sure there is a fair bit of study out their which suggests the lasting benefits of such training is minimal if any at all.

Australian rules football teams went through a phase of travelling to places such as Arizona in the preseason to train at high altitudes. Many teams are now opting to stay at home as data collected suggests their is minimal longer lasting benefit.

lee909 01-07-2015 05:00 AM

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No need for players to be out there in intense heat in preseason.
The aim of preseason is to get the players working as a unit and get them fit for the season. You push people to breaking point in July and August and you have as bunch of dead men,fitting mental and physical fatigue by late November. Thats why you often see the teams that do push preaseason training start like a house on fire and drop away come late regular season.You want the players in peak condition december and january not sep/oct.

For the likes of high altitude training to work you have to stay at high altitude and come down just before the event you are competing in. If you want the players doing that training you may aswell just at home and send them home with a Hypoxico tent to sleep in. While the NFL is pretty good in training in lots of areas imo it falls well behind in sports science,the days of long training sessions in heat and hills runs went out with the ark and have not been used in most sports for many years.

halloween 65 01-07-2015 08:54 AM

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I think this new age fitness is a bunch of crap. Your body has to be push hard to higher levels to get leaner, stronger, and faster. This team needs endurance and in cooler weather the body can take more than in hotter weather but the sessions are not as long as they use to be which training in the heat will be more benificial for the given shorter sessions and the endurance level is much better. I train my dog in the heat, he can't take the heat nearly as well as he can cooler weather but the benifits of training him in the heat plays a major factor come fall(cooler weather) you can't shut him down, the endurance is all ready there. I would send these pansie players in the heat.

Mardigras9 01-07-2015 11:01 AM

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It's not WHERE the training camp is, it's WHAT they put into it that makes the difference.
I did not see any videos from WV that would lead me to belive they were a focused/determined/hungry team. Lots of pranking, QB competitions, and hype.

UK_WhoDat 01-07-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 636523)
I second that! :bng:

I second that emotion

Jack Vegas 01-07-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 636547)
I'm not a doctor or scientist but it's common knowledge that the body, when exposed to extremes, the physiology of the body changes. It adapts to heat, cold, high elevation. Training in the heat, cells start becoming more efficient conserving water, the mind breaks the mental barrier as well from being hot and pushing on. There would be a lot of IV's at first then some then hardly any. Maybe the training is not as intense as before, but in short burst in heat it would have an effect on some level.

Haslett's teams used to train out in the heat and they fell apart late in the season just about every year. This is not freaking Junction Boys anymore. You get a few hours and one practice session each day. And most of those aren't full contact. That's it. Under those restrictions you're just wasting time, energy and reps going out in the heat. If the team is mentally tough, they will overcome things during the season. If they are not, they won't.


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