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spkb25 01-20-2015 05:02 AM
Re: Would Saints Pull an END-AROUND on Rob Ryan?
 
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 637921)
And I'd have to disagree...

I did say Lewis, Jordan, with Vaccaro as "jury still out"

I'll give you Byrd same as Vaccaro, "jury still out", since he ahd one god game then looked bad before he got hurt, but he has a history, although I didn't follow the Bills, so I don't know.

But the rest, I just don't see true talent.
JG has 12 sacks and 10 sacks the last two seasons. Even if you concede he is just a sack specialist, they're pretty good numbers.

lee909 01-20-2015 05:30 AM
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The problem is he got sacks in 8 games and 9 the year before. While the totals are OK they are not good enough for a man that does little else. He feasts on poor offensive lines
In the past two years he has played
Patriots,Eagles,Packers,Bengals,Steelers, and 2x Seahawks without a sack
He has 1 sack in 2 games with Cowboys and 49ers. He needs to step up in big games

spkb25 01-20-2015 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 637934)
The problem is he got sacks in 8 games and 9 the year before. While the totals are OK they are not good enough for a man that does little else. He feasts on poor offensive lines
In the past two years he has played
Patriots,Eagles,Packers,Bengals,Steelers, and 2x Seahawks without a sack
He has 1 sack in 2 games with Cowboys and 49ers. He needs to step up in big games
Good point, bro.

hagan714 01-20-2015 06:02 AM
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judge against the elite units only. want a trip back to a super bowl those are the teams we must measure up to. door mats are just that. door mats and teams to pad your stats with.

lee909 01-20-2015 06:11 AM
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Dennis Allen is reportable back,no word on role yet

Mr.Riaton 01-20-2015 06:19 AM
Re: Would Saints Pull an END-AROUND on Rob Ryan?
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 637944)
Dennis Allen is reportable back,no word on role yet
He's supposed to have a senior defensive role and work with RR. Hopefully he can help out SJB.

hagan714 01-20-2015 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 637944)
Dennis Allen is reportable back,no word on role yet
http://blackandgold.com/bngforum/misc/subscribed.gif Dennis Allen the saints safety blanket if rob screws up yet again if he makes it to the start of the season.

raiders had a much better draft than saints did under allen
2014 NFL Draft Grade A Day | Oakland Raiders - DraftSeason

maybe he can help out here also

lee909 01-20-2015 06:29 AM
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Just get him on the phone to his former centre Wisniewski,

blackangold 01-20-2015 07:39 AM
Re: Would Saints Pull an END-AROUND on Rob Ryan?
 
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 637921)
And I'd have to disagree...

I did say Lewis, Jordan, with Vaccaro as "jury still out"

I'll give you Byrd same as Vaccaro, "jury still out", since he ahd one god game then looked bad before he got hurt, but he has a history, although I didn't follow the Bills, so I don't know.

But the rest, I just don't see true talent.
Byrd was an all-pro that lead the team in tackles and turnovers before getting hurt, as a safety you should never lead the team in tackles.

Gallete was only behind JJ Watt for QB pressures, and was our best player by a mile according to PFF.

Ill say that Vaccaro is a bust at the safety spot but we have a diamond in Warren who in limited reps was the best graded Safety.

NonieT 01-20-2015 08:33 AM
Re: Would Saints Pull an END-AROUND on Rob Ryan?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 637950)
http://blackandgold.com/bngforum/misc/subscribed.gif Dennis Allen the saints safety blanket if rob screws up yet again if he makes it to the start of the season.
If Allen coached 3-4 I might agree be he coaches 4-3.


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