Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery
 

Before the Pro Bowl, Saints tight end Jimmy Graham said his participation in the annual all-star game will help determine whether he needs surgery on the shoulder he injured early in the regular season.

After the Pro Bowl, Graham told PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio that the current plan is to continue to rest and rehab the shoulder without surgery.

Graham said plenty more during his slot as the final guest in a week full of excellent conversations, from his aggressive approach to pick-up basketball to his love of flying to how the movie Top Gun sparked his passion for flying and provided the template for his first kiss.

The six-foot, seven-inch Graham also said he was first able to dunk a basketball when he was merely five feet, eight inches tall.

In all, Graham was loose, relaxed, funny — something that doesn’t come through very much while he’s bringing the same intensity to football that he does to basketball

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Re: Jimmy Graham says current plan is no shoulder surgery
 

So now we're going to geaux through half the season and then go on IR to do surgery that he should have had now...

Jimmy is becoming a Roger Dorn...

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Pro Bowl is the right game to test your shoulder. lol Game where players on defense are afraid to hit opponents.

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My feeling exactly!

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I have a sneaking feeling that Graham's high paid doctors know a bit more about his need, or lack of, for surgery than you. Surgery is always a last resort when it comes to joints areas. Yes, sometimes it is the only resort, but all surgeries come with a risk.

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I say, despite the risks from surgery, the current plan SHOULD BE rehab the shoulder with surgery and rest.

That is against the risk of continuing, as he has done, with an injury that made him pretyy well ineffective last season.

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Having gone through a couple shoulder surgeries, I can tell you the last things doc's wanna do is surgery, not to mention, at least for me, I haven't seen exactly what the damage is? a lot of times, surgeries aren't the "fix all", and also a lot of times surgeons will tell you they won't know what they are gonna do until they get in their. Not everything is at appears on MRI's. I'm sure the doc's have a better idea of whats best more so than say any of us. If anything, he probably should have skipped the pro bowl, rested and began rehabbing/strengthening it.

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Have you examined Graham yourself? What did his MRI's look like? How did you determine that it was an injury that could not heal sans surgery? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

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A voice of reason. :cheering:

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That's right, you do what we say! So what if it isn't our shoulder that's getting operated on! How selfish of you! We know what's good for you (fantasy numbers) how dare you confuse our opinions with facts!! Rich primadonna players!

Eaux Neaux, Jimmy has to sheaux he is a team player or out he geauxs, don't you suppeauxs?

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You're point that none of us have personally examined his shoulder to recommend surgery is valid, however...

Do you read, and do you comprehend what you read?!?

R-E-S-T was prescribed; so, he had no business playing in the ProBowl...

If my comment seems cynical, it is because it is founded in his selfish decision to play in a game that many have argued has reached its course and should be discontinued...

Actually, I'd like to look at the specifics of compensation for Graham for playing in the game...

Back to my experience with sports orthopedics; should it play out that he'll need surgery, it will probably be more involved and may affect next season's success as he procrastinated to have the procedure done...

Some of us are more informed, and have more experience than you idly dismiss; you should really reflect on the arrogant tone you project on members of this community that their opinions are invalid because they differ from yours...

Again, football is not rocket science...

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Probably a good plan.... he DID dunk after all in the ProBowl!

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R-E-S-T was prescribed AFTER playing in the Pro Bowl to test it out. The whole week before everything was about using the Pro Bowl as a test. Do you honestly think that was all on Graham? That smacks of what a doctor would say.

After the game it was determined that R-E-S-T was all that was required. Not surgery.

You implied earlier that not having surgery was a mistake. Once again, how do you know more than Graham and his doctors? Do you even have the slightest clue as to what procedure may need to be done? Please share your "experience with sports orthopedics".

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Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy !!! All that money the Saints paid you and you dunk at the pro bowl. Now I think his injury must be healed up, should be no more excuses for drops, quitting on plays, blocking defenders, and in particular going over the middle. If your well enough to dunk a football over a goal post, do the rest or is it all show!! Earn that high dollar contract you got last year because you aint' earned that big money contract with your abilities last season. Be more like Gronk if you can.

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He may still do a little clean up surgery when he gets back into action in the spring. I just hope it doesn't drag on into TC. It would be good to have everyone available throughout TC for a change. We certainly need everyone on the same page and begin building cohesiveness early on.

I trust in Payton to get this back on track, however TC needs to be less powder puff and more like boot camp. OTA's need to have full attendance.:poke:

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doesn't it sound so familiar, its gets repeat hit in the same shoulder in spring and dr's say surgery to get it healed, jimmy you have to understand that when you go short arming your drops for half a season can cause domino effect on your team bro. everyone seems to drop off. show us and your team the money jimmy, it works all the time, same for jr. galette and cam, and drew, jari, grubbs, colston, every starter to back ups man. that's what made it happen in 09, everyone took care of their bodies and DID THEIR JOBS.:bng:

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AG. In order.
No
Wouldn't know, mate
I thought about and had an OPINION
Not bloody likely. I don't do Holiday Inn Express. What is there to like? Why should is there is a neeed at the Holiday Inn Express? Did his medics stay there?

I write this on a forum where opinions are accepted. Not all I state is based on facts, expertise, etc etc.

Enjoy your day, Sir. That is an expression of platitude. It is not based on any facts I have of you or staying at Holiday Inn Express or wherever you were or will be.

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:lol: ... you should get in on the rezburna "don't denigrate me or my homies because you don't know us" discussions, :lol:.

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Saw that on the SB XLIX thread. I ran. Hahaha

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I was questioning your insistence that Graham should have surgery as stated below. Perhaps it comes from 25 years working as an analyst, but it frustrates me to see assumptions without any supporting facts at all.

Graham came into this past season perfectly healthy. He suffered the shoulder injury in week five in the overtime win against Tampa bay. It was determined at that time that surgery was not required and playing with the shoulder was possible. That was obviously confirmed following the season. Graham shared the "fact" that surgery was not required and rest, which was not possible during the season, was all that was needed for recovery.

As I mentioned before, surgery is ALWAYS the very last resort. One can fully recover from a wide range of injuries through rest followed by physical therapy.

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You are welcome :)