I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore

WillSaints81 · 02-01-2015, 09:19 PM

What I hate about this is the pats could not beat the giants but could beat Seattle. Eli was not deserving more than Brady in 11. But now the fact that a immature "live it up" like Gronk is the gold standard to winning a sb is just sad. There will never be someone like this on the saints because Payton and Brees do not want that kind of character. And it sucks if this is what it takes to win now.

NamHN420 · 02-01-2015, 10:53 PM

Not sure if I understand you. But patriots deserved this win. They deserved it the first time against Eli as well, but the giants got on a roll at the right time. Plus that lucky catch also helped the giants win that game.

Brady and belichek's Patriots have been the epitome of consistency.

blackangold · 02-02-2015, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by NamHN420

Not sure if I understand you. But patriots deserved this win. They deserved it the first time against Eli as well, but the giants got on a roll at the right time. Plus that lucky catch also helped the giants win that game.

Brady and belichek's Patriots have been the epitome of consistency.

It helps when you bend the rules as much as possible. ..

Depending on the investigation they should have the title stripped. .. it will never happen because Goodell is in Krafts back pocket.

I really can't look at the patriots as champs now...

Mardigras9 · 02-02-2015, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by NamHN420

Brady and belichek's Patriots have been the epitome of consistency.

Yep, like it or not (and it's not for me).
But you gotta respect that.

st thomas · 02-02-2015, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Yep, like it or not (and it's not for me).
But you gotta respect that.

whatever it is they do and post in front of me explains it; why it works; look at the roster and name 10 on that team that u no about, there blue collar hustling to the ball players that do it every play, every play. payton wants that and he gets it , but every other play. we had it in 09 people we dominated 13 weeks in a row and then let the hammer off for 3 before finishing the job.

WillSaints81 · 02-02-2015, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

whatever it is they do and post in front of me explains it; why it works; look at the roster and name 10 on that team that u no about, there blue collar hustling to the ball players that do it every play, every play. payton wants that and he gets it , but every other play. we had it in 09 people we dominated 13 weeks in a row and then let the hammer off for 3 before finishing the job.

Actually 2. Brees did not start week 17.

lee909 · 02-02-2015, 12:43 AM

I do think the Pats have benefitted over the Brady era by being in the AFC East and the AFC in general. The east has sucked for years with only the Jets giving any fight for the majority of the time. The AFC put up a fight but kill each other hopes of home field by having a dog fight for the title each year. Look at most years in the AFC and you'll have 2-4 teams fighting it out. The NFC has so much more depth

SloMotion · 02-02-2015, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I do think the Pats have benefitted over the Brady era by being in the AFC East and the AFC in general. The east has sucked for years with only the Jets giving any fight for the majority of the time. The AFC put up a fight but kill each other hopes of home field by having a dog fight for the title each year. Look at most years in the AFC and you'll have 2-4 teams fighting it out. The NFC has so much more depth

Excellent point! I've often wondered the same thing, not just with New England but with many an AFC Champion, at how they would rate if they played in the NFC ... IDK if it goes back to the NFL/AFL days, but it just seems as if the NFC side of things has always been the more "smashmouth" league ... other than maybe those Pittsburgh teams of the '70s and maybe a couple of those Ravens teams ... ouch!

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Vrillon82 · 02-02-2015, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I do think the Pats have benefitted over the Brady era by being in the AFC East and the AFC in general. The east has sucked for years with only the Jets giving any fight for the majority of the time. The AFC put up a fight but kill each other hopes of home field by having a dog fight for the title each year. Look at most years in the AFC and you'll have 2-4 teams fighting it out. The NFC has so much more depth

I dunno what it is about the AFC that sucks in general, the last 15 years its been the same 5-6 teams in the AFC in the SB, that is Pats, Ravens, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, and 1 lonely Raiders team. The NFC in the last 15 years has sent a good many teams there, almost everyone in the South, GB, Chicago, Philly, even everyone in the NFC West has gone.

UK_WhoDat · 02-03-2015, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

I dunno what it is about the AFC that sucks in general, the last 15 years its been the same 5-6 teams in the AFC in the SB, that is Pats, Ravens, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, and 1 lonely Raiders team. The NFC in the last 15 years has sent a good many teams there, almost everyone in the South, GB, Chicago, Philly, even everyone in the NFC West has gone.

Interesting analysis.
I wonder what the equivalent analysis of the Conference championship games show.

02-01-2015, 09:19 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,276	I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore What I hate about this is the pats could not beat the giants but could beat Seattle. Eli was not deserving more than Brady in 11. But now the fact that a immature "live it up" like Gronk is the gold standard to winning a sb is just sad. There will never be someone like this on the saints because Payton and Brees do not want that kind of character. And it sucks if this is what it takes to win now.

02-01-2015, 10:53 PM	#2
NamHN420 Registered Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 32	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Not sure if I understand you. But patriots deserved this win. They deserved it the first time against Eli as well, but the giants got on a roll at the right time. Plus that lucky catch also helped the giants win that game. Brady and belichek's Patriots have been the epitome of consistency. UK_WhoDat, jeanpierre, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.
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02-02-2015, 01:20 AM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by NamHN420 Not sure if I understand you. But patriots deserved this win. They deserved it the first time against Eli as well, but the giants got on a roll at the right time. Plus that lucky catch also helped the giants win that game. Brady and belichek's Patriots have been the epitome of consistency. It helps when you bend the rules as much as possible. .. Depending on the investigation they should have the title stripped. .. it will never happen because Goodell is in Krafts back pocket. I really can't look at the patriots as champs now... RockyMountainSaint and brees84 like this.

02-02-2015, 09:16 AM	#4
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by NamHN420 Brady and belichek's Patriots have been the epitome of consistency. Yep, like it or not (and it's not for me). But you gotta respect that. st thomas likes this.

02-02-2015, 07:40 PM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Yep, like it or not (and it's not for me). But you gotta respect that. whatever it is they do and post in front of me explains it; why it works; look at the roster and name 10 on that team that u no about, there blue collar hustling to the ball players that do it every play, every play. payton wants that and he gets it , but every other play. we had it in 09 people we dominated 13 weeks in a row and then let the hammer off for 3 before finishing the job. hagan714 likes this.

02-02-2015, 10:46 PM	#6
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,276	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by st thomas whatever it is they do and post in front of me explains it; why it works; look at the roster and name 10 on that team that u no about, there blue collar hustling to the ball players that do it every play, every play. payton wants that and he gets it , but every other play. we had it in 09 people we dominated 13 weeks in a row and then let the hammer off for 3 before finishing the job. Actually 2. Brees did not start week 17.

02-02-2015, 12:43 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore I do think the Pats have benefitted over the Brady era by being in the AFC East and the AFC in general. The east has sucked for years with only the Jets giving any fight for the majority of the time. The AFC put up a fight but kill each other hopes of home field by having a dog fight for the title each year. Look at most years in the AFC and you'll have 2-4 teams fighting it out. The NFC has so much more depth SmashMouth and SloMotion like this.

02-02-2015, 05:50 AM	#8
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by lee909 I do think the Pats have benefitted over the Brady era by being in the AFC East and the AFC in general. The east has sucked for years with only the Jets giving any fight for the majority of the time. The AFC put up a fight but kill each other hopes of home field by having a dog fight for the title each year. Look at most years in the AFC and you'll have 2-4 teams fighting it out. The NFC has so much more depth Excellent point! I've often wondered the same thing, not just with New England but with many an AFC Champion, at how they would rate if they played in the NFC ... IDK if it goes back to the NFL/AFL days, but it just seems as if the NFC side of things has always been the more "smashmouth" league ... other than maybe those Pittsburgh teams of the '70s and maybe a couple of those Ravens teams ... ouch! .

02-02-2015, 09:34 AM	#9
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by lee909 I do think the Pats have benefitted over the Brady era by being in the AFC East and the AFC in general. The east has sucked for years with only the Jets giving any fight for the majority of the time. The AFC put up a fight but kill each other hopes of home field by having a dog fight for the title each year. Look at most years in the AFC and you'll have 2-4 teams fighting it out. The NFC has so much more depth I dunno what it is about the AFC that sucks in general, the last 15 years its been the same 5-6 teams in the AFC in the SB, that is Pats, Ravens, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, and 1 lonely Raiders team. The NFC in the last 15 years has sent a good many teams there, almost everyone in the South, GB, Chicago, Philly, even everyone in the NFC West has gone.
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02-03-2015, 06:00 AM	#10
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: I am not sure if I understand the NFL anymore Originally Posted by Vrillon82 I dunno what it is about the AFC that sucks in general, the last 15 years its been the same 5-6 teams in the AFC in the SB, that is Pats, Ravens, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, and 1 lonely Raiders team. The NFC in the last 15 years has sent a good many teams there, almost everyone in the South, GB, Chicago, Philly, even everyone in the NFC West has gone. Interesting analysis. I wonder what the equivalent analysis of the Conference championship games show.

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