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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Corey peters and Kyle Langford still no decision yet. Corey has 6 teams after to choose between and Langford 3 or 4....

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Old 03-09-2015, 05:47 PM   #1
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Corey peters and Kyle Langford still no decision yet. Corey has 6 teams after to choose between and Langford 3 or 4.
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Oh I want Langford to stay and sign tomorrow
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Oh I want Langford to stay and sign tomorrow
Along with Wisniewski,Foster,and House.
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:55 AM   #4
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Howdy fellas, I haven't been around in a while, but am I the only one who is getting a sinking feeling after watching the moves this offseason? Although I've been bothered by releasing guys like PT and Lofton, it's really the guys we have kept around that have me scratching my head.

For instance, why did we re-sign McCown? He's a veteran QB who seems to be very replaceable... do we not think we can find a cheaper alternative at the backup QB spot?

Ingram really has me concerned... guy has a breakout year in his contract year, but was never able to put it together or stay on the field in previous years... and we give him a multi-year deal?

We re-signed Shayne Graham (lol), have a $1M fullback on the roster (Lorig), and have one of the highest paid punters in the league. We also still have Hawthorne with a giant cap number that isn't justified by his play.

I'm also surprised that Brees hasn't stepped up at this point and offered to help...

I guess my concern is about the priorities... it seems we cut some core guys while keeping below-average performers. I clearly don't have all the information that Loomis & Co. have, but this offseason has a different feel than others in the past.
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Howdy fellas, I haven't been around in a while, but am I the only one who is getting a sinking feeling after watching the moves this offseason? Although I've been bothered by releasing guys like PT and Lofton, it's really the guys we have kept around that have me scratching my head.

For instance, why did we re-sign McCown? He's a veteran QB who seems to be very replaceable... do we not think we can find a cheaper alternative at the backup QB spot?

Ingram really has me concerned... guy has a breakout year in his contract year, but was never able to put it together or stay on the field in previous years... and we give him a multi-year deal?

We re-signed Shayne Graham (lol), have a $1M fullback on the roster (Lorig), and have one of the highest paid punters in the league. We also still have Hawthorne with a giant cap number that isn't justified by his play.

I'm also surprised that Brees hasn't stepped up at this point and offered to help...

I guess my concern is about the priorities... it seems we cut some core guys while keeping below-average performers. I clearly don't have all the information that Loomis & Co. have, but this offseason has a different feel than others in the past.
Brees has offered to help already...the front office is choosing not to at this time. I think we still have Johnson at fullback also. I really believe the ZBS is why Ingram has delivered. It just so happened Sean decided to change it right before his contract year. I guess it was a last resort move to see if it would help and I believe it did. I know things are being shakin up a bit,but I do believe they have a plan. We needed change and we're getting it,and I for one am choosing to stay optimistic.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:21 PM   #6
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Brees has offered to help already...the front office is choosing not to at this time. I think we still have Johnson at fullback also. I really believe the ZBS is why Ingram has delivered. It just so happened Sean decided to change it right before his contract year. I guess it was a last resort move to see if it would help and I believe it did. I know things are being shakin up a bit,but I do believe they have a plan. We needed change and we're getting it,and I for one am choosing to stay optimistic.
I don't mean to be pessimistic here... but if Drew Brees said "Hey, I'll take less money" and the Saints F.O. doesn't take him up on that, then they should all be fired. We had to release some key pieces of our team for cap reasons that we probably would have liked to keep if we had the flexibility to do so...
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Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
I don't mean to be pessimistic here... but if Drew Brees said "Hey, I'll take less money" and the Saints F.O. doesn't take him up on that, then they should all be fired. We had to release some key pieces of our team for cap reasons that we probably would have liked to keep if we had the flexibility to do so...
What key pieces did we release? Thomas barely saw the field last year and Lofton graded out horrible. Brees' contract is not the reason our cap is the way it is,so why should he take a pay cut? If the front office does not restructure his contract,there's probably a good reason why. The off season is not over with either,so there's still a chance they will. We as fans will never know all of the details as to what goes on behind the scenes,but I do believe our organization is doing the best they can and trying to be smart about the moves they make.
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What key pieces did we release? Thomas barely saw the field last year and Lofton graded out horrible. Brees' contract is not the reason our cap is the way it is,so why should he take a pay cut? If the front office does not restructure his contract,there's probably a good reason why. The off season is not over with either,so there's still a chance they will. We as fans will never know all of the details as to what goes on behind the scenes,but I do believe our organization is doing the best they can and trying to be smart about the moves they make.
You said that Brees offered to give up money, and the F.O. said no. That's ludicrous.
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Larry Holder reckons at least one more cut today

I'm waiting for at least one more shoe to drop for the #Saints today as far as cuts. I say at least one because there could be more.

RT @stephenolier: @LarryHolder got an opinion on who?
Hawthorne, Evans, Grubbs, White seem like possibilities
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Mike Tripletts piece on possible pass rushers.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...RmV0OJO1%22%7D

Breaking down Saints' options for pass-rushers*
By Mike Triplett | March 10, 2015 1:30:55 PM PDT

The*New Orleans Saints*appear likely to bring back their top pass rusher,*Junior Galette, after converting his roster bonus*to a signing bonus*on Monday – though it’s still unknown if he could face a possible NFL suspension after being arrested on a domestic-violence charge that was later dropped.*

Even if Galette plays all 16 games in 2015, though, the Saints could use more pass-rush help. Who couldn’t?*

The draft is one possible avenue -- even though many of the top options might not fall to the 13th pick. If the Saints decide to seek help in the free-agent market, they’ll likely dip into the second or third tier, where there are still several attractive options available. Here’s a look at some of the top young pass-rushers who are either still in their prime years or just entering them:*


Greg Hardy,*Carolina Panthers*Hardy was one of the NFL’s most dominant players in 2013 with 15 sacks, but he spent last season on the commissioner’s exempt list because of domestic-violence charges (which were later dropped). Hardy doesn’t seem like a good fit for New Orleans because he could also be facing a NFL suspension – and because he could still be too expensive.*

Brian Orakpo,*Washington Redskins*Orakpo is a three-time Pro Bowl selection with 40 career sacks, but injuries have plagued his career. He was limited to seven games last season with his third torn pectoral muscle. Maybe that will make him more affordable if the Saints believe he’s worth the risk.*

Derrick Morgan,*Tennessee Titans*ESPN scouting analyst KC Joyner singled out Morgan as a second-tier player whom the Saints might want to target. A former first-round pick, Morgan hasn’t overwhelmed, likely because of a torn ACL suffered in his rookie year. But he has 23 sacks, 24 tackles for loss and four forced fumbles in 66 career games. Joyner said he has posted double-digit disrupted dropback numbers in two of the past three seasons (13.5 last year).*

Jabaal Sheard, Cleveland Browns. Age 25. 6-3, 264.*ESPN NFL Insider Adam Caplan identified Sheard as “very underrated” and “perfect for a hybrid scheme” like the Saints run under Rob Ryan. Sheard has played end in a 4-3 and outside linebacker in a 3-4 with 190 tackles, 23 sacks and seven forced fumbles in four years.*

Jason Worilds,*Pittsburgh Steelers*A former second-round pick, Worilds hasn’t been a consistent producer, but he’s shown great potential. And he’s come on strong the past two seasons with 15.5 sacks since becoming a regular starter. He had 18 QB pressures in 2014. Caplan said teams are split on whether he's an every-down player or a rotational player. But he’s very productive regardless, and he's also a good special teams player and good character guy.*

Anthony Spencer,*Dallas Cowboys*Spencer isn’t young anymore, and he was limited during the past two years by a knee injury that required microfracture surgery in 2013. But he’s a former Pro Bowl selection who had his best season under Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan in 2012, with 11 sacks. So maybe a reunion could make sense, especially if he comes at a discounted price. Spencer only had one-half sack in 13 games played in 2014, but by most accounts came on strong as he got healthier late in the year.*

Adrian Clayborn,*Tampa Bay BuccaneersAnother former first-round pick who has battled injuries and inconsistency. Clayborn has played in just 36 games in four years because of a torn biceps last year and a 2012 knee injury. But he had 7.5 sacks in 2011 and 5.5 sacks in 2013, so there’s still some potential there. The Saints liked him a lot in the 2011 draft.*

Brooks Reed,*Houston Texans*A regular starter since his rookie season in 2011, Reed has 14.5 career sacks and holds his own against the run as well. Caplan said he’s been cross-trained to play inside linebacker. The Saints could use that kind of versatility.*

O’Brien Schofield,*Seattle Seahawks*He played a rotational role in Seattle but could play a bigger one for a needier defense. Schofield has 13.5 sacks in five years with the Seahawks and*Arizona Cardinals. ESPN Insider Matt Williamson mentioned him as a possible fit for the Saints.*

Akeem Ayers,*New England Patriots*I wrote about him earlier along with*the inside linebackers. That versatility could make him extra enticing.
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